Christians and crimes of the Jewish State

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MsSpratt said:
They destroyed the remnant of the Amalekites who escaped, and have lived there to this day
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MsSpratt like I said I am no expert on this but I will gladly read through your verses and give you my opinion.
 
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kaylagrl

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Gandalf said:
MsSpratt like I said I am no expert on this but I will gladly read through your verses and give you my opinion.
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​Well her profile says she's a Christian but her views on Gods chosen leave me wondering.What's the point to be made here?Seems she doesn't want to come out and say it.
 
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MsSpratt said:
...moving on from the convenient Amalek false accusers.....this thread is about crimes of Israelis.
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Rather it's about drinking the Palestinian Kool-Aid.
 
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kaylagrl said:
​Well her profile says she's a Christian but her views on Gods chosen leave me wondering.What's the point to be made here?Seems she doesn't want to come out and say it.
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Christian Palestinianism a relatively new movement, they work hand in hand with the Muslims for 'peace' i.e. without Jews. It takes 'spiritualizing' the OT texts to make it work.
 
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I would suggest that there is a much higher probability that the Israeli government will prosecute the war criminals fairly and according to the law as opposed to the PLO and affiliated groups that want to destroy Israel from off the face of the earth.

God does not condone sin. God does not bless those who curse Israel. God does not expect His children to support criminals Israeli or Arabic or Gentile period.

If you prosecute this issue with blind partisanship expect the same from the defenders.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
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eternally-gratefull

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MsSpratt said:
THE QUESTION WAS - are the crimes of the Jewish state sanctified by God.
please address this only.
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no crime is sanctified by God, Be it by Isreal, Palestine or the united states.

what kind of question is this? is this just another antisemetic rant?
 
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kaylagrl

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crossnote said:
Christian Palestinianism a relatively new movement, they work hand in hand with the Muslims for 'peace' i.e. without Jews. It takes 'spiritualizing' the OT texts to make it work.
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Well thanks for filling me in! Hadn't heard of this one! No wonder shes being so nasty in her answers.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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This was difficult and sad to read. I've always been curious if other christians besides myself have ever considered what the following verse from Joshua meant ... and pertains to, seeing that this book was written roughly 500 - 600 yrs. B.C. Does it have any relevance in regards to today's State of Israel ... and if it does, what exactly does this mean ? I'm not looking for debate on the topic. I'm just curious if others have wondered as I do. And would or does this make me " unchristian " to even consider it ? ......... Joshua 21:45 Not one of all the Lord's good promises to Israel failed; every one was fulfilled.
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Now take this, which is a very accurate and true statement. And add this to how God made this promises.

Here I will help.

[SUP]7 [/SUP]And I will establish My covenant between Me and you and your descendants after you in their generations, for an everlasting covenant, to be God to you and your descendants after you. [SUP]8 [/SUP]Also I give to you and your descendants after you the land in which you are a stranger, all the land of Canaan, as an everlasting possession; and I will be their God.”

now after you read this, I will ask you this. Has "everlasting" ended? or is it still in effect?
 
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eternally-gratefull

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MsSpratt said:
Joshua 21:45 Not one of all the Lord's good promises to Israel failed; every one was fulfilled.

there you are. simple truth, right from God's Word.
too bad so many christians don't believe it.
thx for your input.
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No, We believe it. We also just know that these promises were eternal promises, and eternity has not ended yet, thus they are still in effect.

They were realised at some point, (as Joshua correctly pointed out) but that does not mean God has fulfilled his promise and is no longer bound by his eternal covenant with them. Like some christians want to claim.
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
Now take this, which is a very accurate and true statement. And add this to how God made this promises.

Here I will help.

[SUP]7 [/SUP]And I will establish My covenant between Me and you and your descendants after you in their generations, for an everlasting covenant, to be God to you and your descendants after you. [SUP]8 [/SUP]Also I give to you and your descendants after you the land in which you are a stranger, all the land of Canaan, as an everlasting possession; and I will be their God.”

now after you read this, I will ask you this. Has "everlasting" ended? or is it still in effect?
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Israel has a right to their homeland.It has not changed.Everlasting has not ended.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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MsSpratt said:
my opinion is: Israeli crimes are not sanctioned by God, and neither is the State.
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so God is not in control of the world? Wow I thought he was..
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Gandalf said:
Now we are getting somewhere :) Israel (the peace of land) is sanctioned from God and was from the first day God made the covenant with Abraham.

The statement that Israeli crimes are not sanctioned from God is one we can argue both ways. God used Pharaoh to turn Israel back to Him. We can see this as a forced attempt from God to turn Judah back to Him. I don’t know if you have noticed how many of the Jewish people are starting to accept Jesus Christ as the Messiah? God is definitely moving in Israel at the moment …
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remember, they do not believe eternal means eternal. And they hate Israel. Like the world has since God made them a nation, because they do not like the fact God gave them something he never promised anyone else.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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kaylagrl said:
Israel has a right to their homeland.It has not changed.Everlasting has not ended.
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true,

God took them out because of their sin, and they are still really not back in as God promised, only partially..

But God said this would happen, and one day they would return.

some people do not like to hear this though, their hate for Gods chosen is to deep. it is satanic.
 
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You are correct e-g

The Lord's intent [Isaiah 11; Jeremiah 31:31; Joel 2; 3; Micah 4;5; Zechariah 12, 13: 14: Romans 11; Revelation 12]

.... all of this is coming regardless of what people think

We can see the satanic hatred displayed buy the Muslims of the Middle East today [Psalms 83; Ezekiel 38: 39]
 
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