Gods Mercy,Why the Jews are Still Gods Chosen People

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I'll share here a testimony from a brother in Christ who had a near death experience (clinical death).
Maybe then others will understand why I'm coming from where I'm coming from...
He was an unbeliever until he almost died, and he had this experience when He saw Jesus, who told him to repent, showed him hell and torment in it, and said that He was coming back quickly. The way he describes it is the following: Jesus was so close... at the door... about to grip the knob and enter! He was amazed how close He was.
He repented and is now preaching the Gospel on the streets of Moscow.
I know in my spirit that he told the truth, and I cant help it.
In the Old testament people also fooled themselves likewise, thinking the LORD is slow.
He is coming back all of sudden, as a thief.
All these teachings have one thing in common, that it is not there yet, we tend to read and think, oh this must happen first, that must happen first, and we get confounded by teachings. While "to depart from evil is understanding".
1 Peter 4:7-11 "The end of all things is near..."

That's just my personal conviction, but I hope it explains where I'm coming from and why I dont believe in literal 1000 years. I'll keep studying however.
His coming for His church at any moment doesn't preclude a future trib or Millennial reign.
 
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This is all a private futuristic "prophecy" that you are telling everyone here.

here it is...

We all face personal tribulations in our lives, death of love ones, financial hardships, being downgraded, and so on......
But this is not the tribulation period the bible speaks of in the last days, where the antichrist will rise to power, the temple rebuilt, and the final two battles to take place.
Along with the severe rise in pestilence, hunger, and death that will come to an all time high as never before.
Plus the 200 million man army the antichrist will control which has never happened before.

There is still a lot to happen before the 1,000 year reign can take place, and then only after these things and our Lords reign does the new heaven and new earth are formed, and then the new Jerusalem comes down on to earth.

None of this came from the Bible. None of it. It came from you.

If you want that on your record, you might want to be pretty sure about it. Because not one whit of that is the Gospel of Jesus Christ that we read about in the New Testament my friend.

I was given examples, not a prophecy.
The bible does speak about both personal tribulations that people face, and the tribulation period.

And what I said about the army the antichrist will command, and the 1,000 year reign of Christ is in the bible.
Plus those who study the prophecies in the bible see this. The 1,000 year reign of Christ is in Revelation, as so is the 200 million man army. The antichrist coming to power is in Revelation, Daniel, Ezekiel, and Isaiah.

Revelation also talks of the pestilence, hunger, and death that will inflict our world in the last days, Jesus mentions these and signs that lead up to them in Matthew 24.

Matthew 24:10-13


And then many will fall away and betray one another and hate one another. And many false prophets will arise and lead many astray. And because lawlessness will be increased, the love of many will grow cold. But the one who endures to the end will be saved.




Matthew 10:22


And you will be hated by all for my name's sake. But the one who endures to the end will be saved.


Mark 13:9-13


“But be on your guard. For they will deliver you over to councils, and you will be beaten in synagogues, and you will stand before governors and kings for my sake, to bear witness before them. And the gospel must first be proclaimed to all nations. And when they bring you to trial and deliver you over, do not be anxious beforehand what you are to say, but say whatever is given you in that hour, for it is not you who speak, but the Holy Spirit. And brother will deliver brother over to death, and the father his child, and children will rise against parents and have them put to death. And you will be hated by all for my name's sake. But the one who endures to the end will be saved.


Lord Jesus makes it clear that we must endure the things we face in life, and keep true in our belief in Him to be saved.


 

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This depth of spiritual perception you share is astounding
Well, when you go on with your allegorizing then it "all depends on what 'is' is"
 
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Thats how it happened the first time with so called "Christians" supporting it.
True Christians have never been a majority, by long shot, our Bible telling us few finding the narrow gate, many called, few chosen. Take away all the Christians, and you'd still probably not notice much change of the seething masses.
 

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Ha haaaAAA! Yes! I confess! All those beautiful Bible verses I copied from God's Word to you to answer all your questions CORRECTLY were my own theory! I made them up! O your killing me here Sparky! :)
all your verses are disjointed ...without coherence or continuity as to the point you are trying to make.
 
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Not at all. He was another false prophet who died in shame, with the exact same message as you. A little premature on the date maybe, but he taught and convinced a lot of people in DISPENSATIONALSIM and then died in shame.
It is a lesson for you my friend. Realman. Realbadbooboo... Same as you and your friends here who enjoy gutting the Gospel.
 

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@kenneth
Pestilence, hunger and death do inflict the world already because the world turned away from God. Look up sword + famine + pestilence in OT, they appear together all the time - it is an interesting study.
Man sits in the temple of God and proclaims he is God.
What is the New covenant temple of God?
Correct, to endure till the end - of one's journey on here... just as your signature says.
Jesus cannot be telling a person to endure till the end of the world when they only live a lifetime.
 
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JesusIsAll

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Well, when you go on with your allegorizing then it "all depends on what 'is' is"
What's curious of the allegorizers is if, as they claim, the Bible isn't saying what it says, how can they say what it says?
 

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Not at all. He was another false prophet who died in shame, with the exact same message as you. A little premature on the date maybe, but he taught and convinced a lot of people in DISPENSATIONALSIM and then died in shame.
It is a lesson for you my friend. Realman. Realbadbooboo... Same as you and your friends here who enjoy gutting the Gospel.
He was Reformed Amill.
 
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all your verses are disjointed ...without coherence or continuity as to the point you are trying to make.
Well of course the scriptures will seem like that to your eyes right now my friend. Here is the cure for that! :)

(Luk 24:31)
And their eyes were opened, and they knew him; and he vanished out of their sight.
(Luk 24:32)
And they said one to another, Did not our heart burn within us, while he talked with us by the way, and while he opened to us the scriptures?

I and the Saints can only provide you scriptures my friend. But only Jesus can open your eyes :)


 

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What's curious of the allegorizers is if, as they claim, the Bible isn't saying what it says, how can they say what it says?
It all depends on what you mean by 'says'. :)
 

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What's curious of the allegorizers is if, as they claim, the Bible isn't saying what it says, how can they say what it says?
The testimony of Christ is the spirit of prophecy, thats how. Jesus said that all Scriptures point to Him so that is God's criteria if you got it right or not.
 

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Well of course the scriptures will seem like that to your eyes right now my friend. Here is the cure for that! :)

(Luk 24:31)
And their eyes were opened, and they knew him; and he vanished out of their sight.
(Luk 24:32)
And they said one to another, Did not our heart burn within us, while he talked with us by the way, and while he opened to us the scriptures?

I and the Saints can only provide you scriptures my friend. But only Jesus can open your eyes :)

anyone can copy/paste scriptures and then accuse...next.
 

SoulWeaver

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Did you not do the same by calling us Gnostics? I meant not to mention it, but now when you say that... :)
 
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JesusIsAll

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It all depends on what you mean by 'says'. :)
True, I failed to say what says says, but it is what is is. Anyway, I don't believe in evolution, but threads like these prove devolution.
 

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Did you not do the same by calling us Gnostics? I meant not to mention it, but now when you say that... :)
That was an earmark of the gnostics...spiritualize and mystify everything. They completely abhorred the literal and the incarnate.