Gods Mercy,Why the Jews are Still Gods Chosen People

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These folks here who preach what they admit is not the Gospel, and who proclaim that Christ is not ruling, and who think some "group" outside of the Gospel and outside of the King Jesus, that they get a "land" promise...

Then where is mine? I was a "Jew" before I was baptized into Christ. Did I "give up" my parcel of real estate here? And if I'm entitled to some, can I get it without the cockroaches?

Or if because I accepted Jesus as the fulfillment to Israel of all prophecies, and have married Him in the New Covenant Gospel, does that mean I forfeit my right to the cockroach apartment?

Hmmm?
 
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Look it, God promised Israel that they would be a kingdom forever. Satan is trying to make that word of God to be a lie, because if he can destroy Israel then he wins. Thats why Israel is the news everyday and why islam wants to destroy it.
Yes, Israel is a Kingdom forever. That is the Gospel. That is what Jesus came for.

But if you think that refers to this cockroach infested hell hole called Jerusalem here in the middle east full of antichrist where I live, you got a bad dose of poisoned hay from the wolves my poor sheep friend :(
 

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These folks here who preach what they admit is not the Gospel, and who proclaim that Christ is not ruling, and who think some "group" outside of the Gospel and outside of the King Jesus, that they get a "land" promise...

Then where is mine? I was a "Jew" before I was baptized into Christ. Did I "give up" my parcel of real estate here? And if I'm entitled to some, can I get it without the cockroaches?

Or if because I accepted Jesus as the fulfillment to Israel of all prophecies, and have married Him in the New Covenant Gospel, does that mean I forfeit my right to the cockroach apartment?

Hmmm?
au contaire, there are some here who mix, shake and crunch scriptures belonging to a future time and stuff them into a past time. In order to do this in a half contrived convincing way they first must spiritualize the texts, otherwise their ideas are only gibberish.
 
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Yes, Israel is a Kingdom forever. That is the Gospel. That is what Jesus came for.

But if you think that refers to this cockroach infested hell hole called Jerusalem here in the middle east full of antichrist where I live, you got a bad dose of poisoned hay from the wolves my poor sheep friend :(
Most of Israel is atheist I understand, but look how God has blessed Israel and made them a nation from nothing. I will tell you a secret, all of the worlds food depends on the pollination of bee's. Israel is the only country that is pollinated by the wind. The bee's are dying and farmers are hiring bee keepers to pollinate their crops. Israel will be the breadbasket of the world as America has been.
 
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they do not understand this. They want to make God a liar and a thief. One who does not keep his promise to anyone, They have failed to heed the warning of paul in romans 11.

[SUP]25 [/SUP]For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. [SUP]26 [/SUP]And so all Israel will be saved
Big words coming from the mouth of someone who YESTERDAY confessed that your message was NOT the Gospel and that Jesus was NOT reigning. Like YOU have anything of redeeming social value that any Christian could be interested in since you ADMITTEDLY preach a Non-gospel.
 
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Big words coming from the mouth of someone who YESTERDAY confessed that your message was NOT the Gospel and that Jesus was NOT reigning. Like YOU have anything of redeeming social value that any Christian could be interested in since you ADMITTEDLY preach a Non-gospel.
Dude where is all this bitterness coming from?
 

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Yes, Israel is a Kingdom forever. That is the Gospel. That is what Jesus came for.

But if you think that refers to this cockroach infested hell hole called Jerusalem here in the middle east full of antichrist where I live, you got a bad dose of poisoned hay from the wolves my poor sheep friend :(
Maybe you can help them create their master list. ..

Prolegomena to the Study of Jews Who Hate Israel
 
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Wow. Yeah.... I don't like to see people's egos going crazy and bickering when I come to a Christian forum.
 
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Wow. Yeah... I don't like to see people's egos going crazy and bickering when I come to a Christian forum.
 
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Big words coming from the mouth of someone who YESTERDAY confessed that your message was NOT the Gospel and that Jesus was NOT reigning. Like YOU have anything of redeeming social value that any Christian could be interested in since you ADMITTEDLY preach a Non-gospel.
In order for a King to rule over a Kingdom - all things must be "in subjection to him". Are all things in subjection to Christ at this time?

Thou hast put all things in subjection under his feet. For in that he put all in subjection under him, he left nothing that is not put under him. But now we see not YET all things put under him.
 
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au contaire, there are some here who mix, shake and crunch scriptures belonging to a future time and stuff them into a past time. In order to do this in a half contrived convincing way they first must spiritualize the texts, otherwise their ideas are only gibberish.
Well of course. If you don't have the revelation of the Holy Spirit how would you know the True Spiritual meaning?
That is your problem to understand. That doesn't mean the rest of us who are in Christ don't understand haHAA!.
It is all right there. Plain as day. All the same words. All the fulfillments in Christ.

Why does it matter to you anyway? You already agreed with e-g that Jesus has nothing to do with it in His Gospel, and you even agreed with him that Jesus doesn't reign...

What does that leave of any credibility with one word you opine then? Nothing. You have nothing. Just mindless opinions that you say aren't the Gospel because you don't see the connection between God's O.T. promises with the N.T. fulfillments in King Jesus like normal Christians do.

You preach a gospel that isn't a gospel. You are a circus act in full view of Christ and the angels. If you don't change your tune and accept Jesus as the Messiah to Israel, the King of the Jews you will die. Plain and simple. And the blood of those who simply follow after your doctrines of devils shall be upon your head too. Word to the wise
 
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In order for a King to rule over a Kingdom - all things must be "in subjection to him". Are all things in subjection to Christ at this time?

Thou hast put all things in subjection under his feet. For in that he put all in subjection under him, he left nothing that is not put under him. But now we see not YET all things put under him.
Yes, I am in subjection to Him. He has all power in Heaven and earth. He is sitting upon the throne. And I am sitting with Him. For He is the King and He reigns.
The last thing that is destroyed under this reign, is death. That is His Last act as King. That is the ONLY thing that I DON'T YET SEE.
Just because I don't "see death put under my feet" because it HASN'T YET HAPPENED to me, (since I'm still standing here in this body of flesh), does NOT mean that the Faithful who have gone on brefore me the last 2000 years haven't seen death subjected altogether and are the "spirits of just men made perfect".
But I sure see everything else under the Reign of the King of Israel. I sure hope you do some day before it is too late my dear.
 
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In order for a King to rule over a Kingdom - all things must be "in subjection to him". Are all things in subjection to Christ at this time?

Thou hast put all things in subjection under his feet. For in that he put all in subjection under him, he left nothing that is not put under him. But now we see not YET all things put under him.
That is NOT what the verse says,this is what the verse says

1 Corinthians 15

[SUP]20 [/SUP]But Christ has indeed been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep. [SUP]21 [/SUP]For since death came through a man, the resurrection of the dead comes also through a man. [SUP]22 [/SUP]For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive. [SUP]23 [/SUP]But each in turn: Christ, the firstfruits; then, when he comes, those who belong to him. [SUP]24 [/SUP]Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power. [SUP]25 [/SUP]For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. [SUP]26 [/SUP]The last enemy to be destroyed is death. [SUP]27 [/SUP]For he “has put everything under his feet.”
[SUP][c][/SUP] Now when it says that “everything” has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ. [SUP]28 [/SUP]When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all.

Christ IS REIGNING NOW. He will reign UNTIL He has PUT ALL HIS ENEMIES UNDER HIS FEET. Afterwards then He will hand the kingdom to God the Father.
 
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Dude where is all this bitterness coming from?
I am not a dude and it is not bitterness it is love for the Children of Israel protecting them from the devils here who say this;

1) The topic has nothing to do with the Gospel
2) Assert that Jesus is not their King.

Those are who we are rebuking here. And their mindless claims that the N.T. is not the fulfillment of the O.T.
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hey are a danger unto the body of Christ. Why are they on a "Christian forum" pushing what the claim in not the Gospel and Jesus doesn't reign.

Wouldn't that make your ears perk up to a bit of an abomination existing here you think?

Hmmm?

We are on vigil warning the little children of this lion walking about devouring
 
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In case anyone was wondering when the promises to Abraham was fulfilled and how they are being fulfilled in each of us as we turn to Christ, here's a good foundation stone;

(Luk 1:54)
He hath holpen his servant Israel, in remembrance of his mercy;
(Luk 1:55)

As he spake to our fathers, to Abraham, and to his seed for ever.




(Eph 2:19)
Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;




(Eph 2:20)
And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;




(Eph 2:21)
In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:




(Eph 2:22)
In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.

And by the way, this began 2000 years ago. It's called the Gospel :) We defend the Gospel WooHooo!!!
 

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Well of course. If you don't have the revelation of the Holy Spirit how would you know the True Spiritual meaning?
That is your problem to understand. That doesn't mean the rest of us who are in Christ don't understand haHAA!.
It is all right there. Plain as day. All the same words. All the fulfillments in Christ.

Why does it matter to you anyway? You already agreed with e-g that Jesus has nothing to do with it in His Gospel, and you even agreed with him that Jesus doesn't reign...

What does that leave of any credibility with one word you opine then? Nothing. You have nothing. Just mindless opinions that you say aren't the Gospel because you don't see the connection between God's O.T. promises with the N.T. fulfillments in King Jesus like normal Christians do.

You preach a gospel that isn't a gospel. You are a circus act in full view of Christ and the angels. If you don't change your tune and accept Jesus as the Messiah to Israel, the King of the Jews you will die. Plain and simple. And the blood of those who simply follow after your doctrines of devils shall be upon your head too. Word to the wise
There is nothing more detrimental to the Gospel than one who feels that everything he believes in the contradictory verses he uses to support his beliefs makes him correct, and everyone else wrong. I beg you to take some time, put aside the tenants of those who are teaching you, and spend a lot more time studying those scriptures that you so eagerly want to cite.

@Others. I know that some of you believe that scriptures speak for themselves, and thus like to post long lists with little or no explanation of why they support your interpretation of your point. Please remember that you are supporting your beliefs. Please take the time to explain away the scripture that is being used to contradict your disagreement.

I love you all, and enjoy the discussions.
Billy
 
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(1Ti 6:15)Jesus Christ;
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King of kings, and Lord of lords;


(Rev 17:14)
...the Lamb ... is Lord of lords, and King of kings...



(Rev 19:16)
And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.






(Luk 23:2)
And they began to accuse him, saying, We found this fellow perverting the nation, and forbidding to give tribute to Caesar, saying that he himself is Christ a King.


(Joh 18:37)
... I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world...


(Mat 2:2)
Saying, Where is he that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen his star in the east, and are come to worship him.





(Mat 5:35)
Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King.


(Mat 21:5)
Tell ye the daughter of Sion, Behold, thy King cometh unto thee, meek, and sitting upon an ass, and a colt the foal of an ass.




Now... who is it again who rejects Jesus as the King of Israel? As the King of the Jews?

And... who is it who is NOT NOW Married to Christ?





(Mat 22:12)
And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless.




(Mat 22:13)
Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.


(Luk 19:27)
But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.

 
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I am not a dude and it is not bitterness it is love for the Children of Israel protecting them from the devils here who say this;

1) The topic has nothing to do with the Gospel
2) Assert that Jesus is not their King.

Those are who we are rebuking here. And their mindless claims that the N.T. is not the fulfillment of the O.T.
Read up. T
hey are a danger unto the body of Christ. Why are they on a "Christian forum" pushing what the claim in not the Gospel and Jesus doesn't reign.

Wouldn't that make your ears perk up to a bit of an abomination existing here you think?

Hmmm?

We are on vigil warning the little children of this lion walking about devouring
Sorry dudet, I see the pink now
 
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There is nothing more detrimental to the Gospel than one who feels that everything he believes in the contradictory verses he uses to support his beliefs makes him correct, and everyone else wrong. I beg you to take some time, put aside the tenants of those who are teaching you, and spend a lot more time studying those scriptures that you so eagerly want to cite.

@Others. I know that some of you believe that scriptures speak for themselves, and thus like to post long lists with little or no explanation of why they support your interpretation of your point. Please remember that you are supporting your beliefs. Please take the time to explain away the scripture that is being used to contradict your disagreement.

I love you all, and enjoy the discussions.
Billy
Love you too Billy *wave* woohoo

It's quite simple. Someone who says, "Jesus isn't my King, and I am going to drive a non-gospel down your throat" is an enemy to the Gospel.
Just so you know the stage here :)

We who are the subjects of Jesus our King, who believe in the Gospel, are under attack. By those who say they want to push ideas that are not the Gospel because Jesus isn't their King.
So we respond with scriptures and reasoning exactly how we are supposed to. Those who look on, learn :) And it's fun!

Peace
 
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Most of Israel is atheist I understand, but look how God has blessed Israel and made them a nation from nothing. I will tell you a secret, all of the worlds food depends on the pollination of bee's. Israel is the only country that is pollinated by the wind. The bee's are dying and farmers are hiring bee keepers to pollinate their crops. Israel will be the breadbasket of the world as America has been.
I am witness to how God Blessed Israel. That is all I do is witness that on this forum. But I will tell you a secret, it sure has nothing to do with bee polinization, or this antichrist city of Jerusalem here in the middle east made out of concrete and abominations of every kind.
As a Jewess, Christ delievered me from this spiritual Sodom and Gomorrah into the promised land of Abraham, the inheritance in the spirits of just men made perfect. The true Mt Zion, as in my signature of Hebrews reveals.
It is amazing to me that Christians now want to lie die with this abomination and her clever but dead works of making the rest of the world drunk on the wine of the fornication of her wrath with all the false doctrines of "futurism" to Israel the flat out GUT the Gospel fulfilled to Israel and Abraham

(Luk 1:54)
He hath holpen his servant Israel, in remembrance of his mercy;