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so let me get this straight. the Law leads us to Christ, and we are not under the Law, for the Law can not save.
because the people can not keep the Law.
yet you pick one passage FROM A COVENANT THAT NO LONGER EXISTS to prove that God owes dirt to antichrists, and is actually having christians murdered in the process of fulfilling a promise you claim is everlasting: in spite of the fact that nothing but eternity is everlasting.
you don't understand God at all.
you would have to follow the flow of the replies to understand what was said.
Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist--denying the Father and the Son.
okay. so are antichrists God's chosen people?
or are these people God's chosen?:
Everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ is born of God, and everyone who loves the father loves his child as well.
Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist--denying the Father and the Son.
okay. so are antichrists God's chosen people?
or are these people God's chosen?:
Everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ is born of God, and everyone who loves the father loves his child as well.
the gospel is simple.
but it excludes your chosen people (antichrists), who you say are owed something in spite of being antichrist.
your theology is not unique or new. but it's wrong.
i'm sure you've heard this warning before.
arguing is not my interest.
sound doctrine is.
A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject. i disobeyed by trying to rebuke you more than twice.
no longer.
but it excludes your chosen people (antichrists), who you say are owed something in spite of being antichrist.
your theology is not unique or new. but it's wrong.
i'm sure you've heard this warning before.
arguing is not my interest.
sound doctrine is.
A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject. i disobeyed by trying to rebuke you more than twice.
no longer.
The preterist is the last days scoffer .... they are here in in great numbers hiding among the professing church
2 Peter
3:1 This second epistle, beloved, I now write unto you; in both which I stir up your pure minds by way of remembrance:
3:2 That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour:
3:3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
3:4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
3:5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
3:6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished
2 Peter
3:1 This second epistle, beloved, I now write unto you; in both which I stir up your pure minds by way of remembrance:
3:2 That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour:
3:3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
3:4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
3:5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
3:6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished
where are they?
post them
you don't know the actual Bible very well. you only know what you have been taught by false teachers.
God left off with NATIONAL boundaries and walls of separation when Christ came. maybe you missed that memo.
if God is not the God of the gentiles, you're not saved. what a bore this childish theology is.
For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from works of the Law.
Or is God the God of Jews only? Is He not the God of Gentiles also? Yes, of Gentiles also,
since indeed God who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through faith is one.
post them
you don't know the actual Bible very well. you only know what you have been taught by false teachers.
God left off with NATIONAL boundaries and walls of separation when Christ came. maybe you missed that memo.
if God is not the God of the gentiles, you're not saved. what a bore this childish theology is.
For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from works of the Law.
Or is God the God of Jews only? Is He not the God of Gentiles also? Yes, of Gentiles also,
since indeed God who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through faith is one.
Israel is a family of people grown large. They have become several nations. The real problem seems to be that Israel is not the Jews and the Jews are not Israel. The first time the word "Jew(s)" occurs in the scripture is in II Kings 16:6 and the context here is that Israel is at war with the Jews.
Israel is...
Gen 48:16 The Angel which redeemed me from all evil, bless the lads; and let my name be named on them, and the name of my fathers Abraham and Isaac; and let them grow into a multitude in the midst of the earth.
Ephraim and Manasseh.
The Jews (Judah) are a separate tribe and only one of 12 (13)...
Gen 49:8 Judah, thou art he whom thy brethren shall praise: thy hand shall be in the neck of thine enemies; thy father's children shall bow down before thee.
Gen 49:9 Judah is a lion's whelp: from the prey, my son, thou art gone up: he stooped down, he couched as a lion, and as an old lion; who shall rouse him up?
Gen 49:10 The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be.
Gen 49:11 Binding his foal unto the vine, and his ass's colt unto the choice vine; he washed his garments in wine, and his clothes in the blood of grapes:
Gen 49:12 His eyes shall be red with wine, and his teeth white with milk.
Whereas Ephraim and Manasseh (the two tribes that carried the name Israel forward) had these promises...
Gen 49:22 Joseph is a fruitful bough, even a fruitful bough by a well; whose branches run over the wall:
Gen 49:23 The archers have sorely grieved him, and shot at him, and hated him:
Gen 49:24 But his bow abode in strength, and the arms of his hands were made strong by the hands of the mighty God of Jacob; (from thence is the shepherd, the stone of Israel
Gen 49:25 Even by the God of thy father, who shall help thee; and by the Almighty, who shall bless thee with blessings of heaven above, blessings of the deep that lieth under, blessings of the breasts, and of the womb:
Gen 49:26 The blessings of thy father have prevailed above the blessings of my progenitors unto the utmost bound of the everlasting hills: they shall be on the head of Joseph, and on the crown of the head of him that was separate from his brethren.
Until one begins to understand that there were 12 (actually 13, Ephraim and Manasseh each received an inheritance in the land and were the sons of Jacob) tribes not just one known as the Jews (Judah), he cannot properly understand much of scripture.
Israel is...
Gen 48:16 The Angel which redeemed me from all evil, bless the lads; and let my name be named on them, and the name of my fathers Abraham and Isaac; and let them grow into a multitude in the midst of the earth.
Ephraim and Manasseh.
The Jews (Judah) are a separate tribe and only one of 12 (13)...
Gen 49:8 Judah, thou art he whom thy brethren shall praise: thy hand shall be in the neck of thine enemies; thy father's children shall bow down before thee.
Gen 49:9 Judah is a lion's whelp: from the prey, my son, thou art gone up: he stooped down, he couched as a lion, and as an old lion; who shall rouse him up?
Gen 49:10 The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be.
Gen 49:11 Binding his foal unto the vine, and his ass's colt unto the choice vine; he washed his garments in wine, and his clothes in the blood of grapes:
Gen 49:12 His eyes shall be red with wine, and his teeth white with milk.
Whereas Ephraim and Manasseh (the two tribes that carried the name Israel forward) had these promises...
Gen 49:22 Joseph is a fruitful bough, even a fruitful bough by a well; whose branches run over the wall:
Gen 49:23 The archers have sorely grieved him, and shot at him, and hated him:
Gen 49:24 But his bow abode in strength, and the arms of his hands were made strong by the hands of the mighty God of Jacob; (from thence is the shepherd, the stone of Israel
Gen 49:25 Even by the God of thy father, who shall help thee; and by the Almighty, who shall bless thee with blessings of heaven above, blessings of the deep that lieth under, blessings of the breasts, and of the womb:
Gen 49:26 The blessings of thy father have prevailed above the blessings of my progenitors unto the utmost bound of the everlasting hills: they shall be on the head of Joseph, and on the crown of the head of him that was separate from his brethren.
Until one begins to understand that there were 12 (actually 13, Ephraim and Manasseh each received an inheritance in the land and were the sons of Jacob) tribes not just one known as the Jews (Judah), he cannot properly understand much of scripture.
this poster believes he is a long lost member if israel (anglo north american).
one would think this outlandish cult armstrongism died a fitting death.
apparently not.