Which is greater?

[JesusLives]

Jeremiah 31:3New King James Version (NKJV)[SUP]3 [/SUP]The Lord has appeared of old to me, saying:
“Yes, I have loved you with an everlasting love;
Therefore with loving kindness I have drawn you.

Ephesians 1:4

GOD'S WORD® Translation
Before the creation of the world, he chose us through Christ to be holy and perfect in his presence.

God loves us, He made a plan to reconcile us to Himself and it cost Him His Son Jesus to do that. He could have zapped Lucifer out of existence when He became prideful up in heaven and wanted to place himself equal to or above God, but God didn't as the other angels would then have served Him out of fear and not love. That is all God wants of us is to choose to serve Him out of love. God wants a love relationship with us all and He allows us power of choice to serve Him.

There is nothing anyone can say or write that will change your mind if you have already made it up as to if you believe or do not believe there is a God. The Bible also says in

Psalm 14:1
International Standard Version
Fools say to themselves, "There is no God." They are corrupt and commit evil deeds; not one of them practices what is good.

Hebrews 11:6
New American Standard Bible
And without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is and that He is a rewarder of those who seek Him.

Adam and Eve did fall into sin and yes they took the rest of us with them, but God did provide a way out and everything God has done to and for us has been out of love to reconcile us to Himself. What more could God do? It is a choice that each one of us must make to either accept the free gift of salvation that is offered to us or to reject it. If you have already made up your mind only you know the answer to that question but God says in

Deuteronomy 30:19
New Living Translation
"Today I have given you the choice between life and death, between blessings and curses. Now I call on heaven and earth to witness the choice you make. Oh, that you would choose life, so that you and your descendants might live!

Pray about it and then seek the Lord while He may be found and I pray that you make the right choice as it is up to you to choose for yourself and no one else can do that for you. Blessings to you in your life journey.



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[Gadget]

I was born a runt. With an abusive fathet. Everyday i luved in fear seeing my mother and brother beaten. Over the littlest things. Needless to say when i started at school i was glad to be out of the house. But even there i was treated as a freak. I did maje ine friend. A christian who lead me ti the prayer. I knew if jesus but his family lead me to the actual church. I was estatic. Finally a friend who wouldnt judge me; who knew my heart.

As time went on that family tollerated me for their sons sake. But i was limited. With jesus i wasnt the church was a family surely i would be welcomed. No, the kids played amoung their own and my one friend was encouraged to play with them as well. But i had Jesys. A true friend who would play with me.

So i sat in the pews every sunday. Listening to how horribke people like me was. How i was an abomination to god and needed to repent. This made no sense as making jesus happy was my focus. I loved what he loved.and it went on like that for many years and different churches. Hearing about how im going to hell. But i had jesus. I wanted to maje him happy. Thats all i cared about.

When i grew up. Being who i was never changed. I nevered dove into the lgbt lufestyle cause i didnt want to hurt my friend.i prayed fir it to be taken from me. It never happened. But i continued to trust him. Even as i luved my adult life i wondered from job to job trustbthis was were jesus was leading me. That tgis was the start of a new life. Until all the doors closed for good.

The only option i had was to pursue my dream of being an artist. With no other options it HAD to be jesus guiding me. Again i was fooled as after getting a BA i still coukdnt find much work and had to return home.i couldnt understand why jesus had lead me down one dead road to the next.

I had to do something and made anither prayer. "lord, please help me find my place ir else i have no choice but to try for the military." two months later i was contacted by the army looking fir a graphic designer. To me the sign couldnt have been more obvious. So i joined with the hopes of a new life. No, it was just the same as always. I was the units freak and they only cared as much as their orders dictated.

The only thing good thing to come into my life was my hubby. Despite how broken he still is we still cling to each other. But weve both hit the end of our limits. I have partial ptsd. My mother died while i was deployed and my father 3 yrs and 10 hours later i forgave him before he died when he found christ. But we never connected as a child and parent should.



Needless to say im done with this joke that has been my life. I only stick around now cause i refuse to give the church the pleasure if my blood. That is not who god is or jesus. I refuse to believe un masters that crewl.

Anyways thats my story. I hope this helps.

 

[Gadget]

I live by a simple saying. Lack of evidence is not in itself evidence. So im not saying there is a gid or is not. I do not know. My life with the scriptures has been less than encouraging. But i still have to think there is something or else i wouldnt be here. But i will not play the fool again. I understand that not everything can be answered, but if someone makes claims if 2+3=97 im going ti investigate that claim vefore signing up for the package.

 

[oyster67]

...why did he create a creature ( in his own image) that could not possibly stand up to such an expectation?

Perhaps so He could shower love, mercy, and compassion upon it. All it has to do is repent and surrender to His love.

 

[Gadget]

Perhaps so He could shower love, mercy, and compassion upon it. All it has to do is repent and surrender to His love.

But the rest...? They're just there to torture and damn? Im not seeing how that is a loving and kind god by conditioning his love but sin is uncinditional.

Please understand Im actually not trying to bust your chops because you might be going in the right directiin. But i need to understand this concept better which is why im pushing.

 

[ChristIsGod]

Well, I've probably been in some of the worst situations a person could find themselves in since I was saved, as well.
Some of the worst churches that you can imagine - but knowing it wasn't from God/Jesus - I just moved along and sometimes I'd just stay home and read till my eyes would burn or go back to church hopping.

What healed me of my past & present was when HE started to show me flash-backs of my life and it wasn't 'my' memory but I knew that He was doing something with me with these memory flash-backs. It was painful at first but then He started to show me all of the people in the O.T. who's lives He was a part of. Like Joseph, who's brothers wanted to kill him and all the bad that happened to him ... but God used everything that happened to these people to make them into the person that He would use to help others and I began to learn that, in His Foreknowledge/His Omniscience, He knows who will come to Him of their own freewill ... and He allows everything that we go through to make us into His image. Don't get me wrong there - none of us are 'there' yet and won't be until we see Him -- but He will have a people that will do what He did while He was on earth being our Example.

All I know is that the more that I've been hurt - the more empathy I feel - even when I'm needing to be a little hard on someone - it hurts So bad, I all but can't take that but ...

I think when we begin to turn against Him -- somewhere down the line we've believed that we are better than He/Jesus was and is. We begin the blame game with Him and the enemy of our souls is much-much more intelligent than we are and will feed that doubt in His Goodness until it over flows into actual hatred of God.

He may allow things to happen to us - but regardless of how horrendous those things may be - He can use them and if we give our lives to Him -- Eternity will be so worth anything that we've gone through in this life.
When we enter eternity - the second we get there - our lives will seem as though we only lived a couple of minutes.
The minute that our eyes are seeing His - our entire life will flash before us in a mili-second. Boom- the fastest playback then the human mind can fathom.
That may sound strange - but you picture Him taking years on Judgement 'day' - judging every human that ever lived. No - He can do it in less than one whole day.
Having faith that He is Good is something that you never should give up on. And please understand -- your thoughts are not always your own - but the enemy sure would love to have more company where he's headed.

I read your Intro and the other thread that I commented on but only you know why you're here. I can only pray for you and love you from where I'm sitting and empathize with all that you've been through. But please don't give up on Him. He was/is Love Incarnate. John knew Him best and that was what John wrote about the most ... Love, loving our enemies, loving each other because "God 'is' Love".

I feel in my heart that I will be more of a pray-er for you. This is a good place to be, if you are even slightly open to having that faith in His goodness at all. Other Christian forums would be too hard on you. I've seen most all of them and this one has some true sweethearts. I hope you've already met some of them on your Intro thread and elsewhere.
We're all humans too though - just like you - so don't expect perfection - as you wouldn't want us to expect that out of you. But you will certainly be loved here - even if there's some that don't post to you at all .... there's plenty watching and praying for you.

I better get to sleep or I'll be really useless for Dad later today. Uh-oh!

Smile, Jesus Loves you - and people here do - but He needs you to see Him for what He's truly like.

Have a great day!!

 

[ChristIsGod]

Perhaps so He could shower love, mercy, and compassion upon it. All it has to do is repent and surrender to His love.

Great post, Brother!

 

[Gadget]

I appreciate the good will and wish you a restful sleep.

But i would like to say one thing if i may. I state currently that i am no longer a xhristian. But it doesnt mean i hate God or Jesus. Ive been asked why and i ask in return. "why shoukd I? Jesus himself nor god has done anything to me." So if the plan is get me to "hate"God he will have to do better than turning the church against me.

 

[SolidGround]

Okay, then something doesnt add up. He wanted us to have freewill but were to be punished for having it? Isnt that like give a child a ball and the punishing them fir having it?

It is more like giving a child a ball, and punishing them for throwing it though a window for no reason.

We DO have the ability to be without sin. Christ proved it. But it's just that no one else ever has chosen to be sinless and follow God.

Our purpose was to be God's image and representative on earth. We all fail that. But God isn't done with us yet.

The first step is to admit that we actually deserve death. If you have more faith in the world than in God, you will say that death is undeserved. If you have faith in God, then you will accept that all of us (all of humanity) are real scumbags and deserve punishment for being so selfish.

Have faith in God's Plan, and His mercy will shine through and enliven your relationship with Him.

Have faith in God's grace and mercy, and do what He has called you to do. Love the Lord your God, and love your neighbor as yourself.

 

[Flamingspirit]

So then why the fall of man and pass it along to their children? Each generation could "learn" of good and evil individualy. At least then we are responsible for our own decisions and not the actions of those weve never even met.

The question should be then, what does it mean to "pass sin along to their children?" Let's give an example of what this means. The economic system! Designed by men for consolidation of wealth and power, this may "seem" good individually as we know and believe it to be "good" to work to take care of our families. But in the grand scheme of things, for every person that accumulates money, many more go broke and homeless! There simply isn't enough money for everyone. Though this and others like it may seem "good," this deceptively evil idea of man has been handed down from the previous generation to the present one. Thus we also inherent the autrocities and wrongdoings that come along with this system.

It is our jobs both individually and as a whole to not follow the mistakes of the previous generation. You see a microcosm of this in action by how children of the new generation raises their young in relation to how their parents raised them. Their parents may have been super strict. They may grow up vowing not to raise their kids that way.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

If I may,

God created mankind, he wanted to care for them, love them, and give them all they need (it is his personality) But in order to do this (as with any relationship) he had to give us free will. For without it, we could never love him back, or need him, which is what he so desires.

Satans lie in the begining is God does not love us, or have our best interests at heart, He wanted to be God (self serving) and because of it fell.

It was his lie to Eve, (god is holding back, He just wants you to do his will, and not have fun, or be your own person,, He does not care about you) Which caused eve to make the same mistake, Self serving.

Adam, In his love for Eve, fell also, Again for his self serving attitude.

That is sin, To serve self. to place self above others, and to place self above God.

To say it was passed down means two things,

1. Destruction, Sin caused destruction of the earth, and the living process. out of it came disease, death, sorrow and pain.
2. A natural tendency of self preservation, it is all about self. we are born with this tendance, and will live out this tendency until we realise it is of no good, is not helping us, and if anything, we keep tryinng to find happiness, yet can't no matter what we do.

God had to restore the relp, he did it with his payment of sin, When we come to him and ask his forgiveness, He makes us alive to him, which tears down the barrier, and allows us to relate to a personal, loving and forgiving god. We see the things we though would never make us happy (like serving others) brings us great joy, we realize the way God intended it, was the right way.

 

[Angelmommie]

So then why the fall of man and pass it along to their children? Each generation could "learn" of good and evil individualy. At least then we are responsible for our own decisions and not the actions of those weve never even met.

We are born into a world of sin..we are responsible for our own sin only...(have you ever met a sinless person that is not a child?)

 

[oldthennew]

First of all. I do want to thank everyone for the answers thus far. It has given me a better understanding of some aspect. But now we start to dig a bit more into the meat and potatoes.

I have heard both sides of the story on this one. God loves you soo much. He even sent his son to die for your transgressions. Because he is a perfect god and cannot stand sin.

This raises the question then, is Gods's hatred for sin greater than his love for us? If so, tgen why did he create a creature ( in his own image) that could not possibly stand up to such an expectation?[/QUOTE
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Gadget,

If our Father hated our sin more that He loved us, there would be no doubt that He
would not permit our existence, - what or why would we have a reason for living?
He has given us the most exquisite example of His Love for us by sacrificing His only Son,
and by His Son's Holy words of, 'Father forgive them, for they no not what they do'.

on the premise of the scripture, 'in the beginning was the Word and the Word was God,'
from this scripture we understand God's personality and priorities, they are listed in the
scripture itself for us, so that we may get an understanding of Him.

in the scripture there are the 'great-matters' of the Law and the Prophets and the NT,
and there are also the lesser matters.
some of the weightier matters are - justice, love, faith, mercy, forgiveness, doing good, etc.

one of His most common patterns is that His people will always sin against Him and He will
pronounce great consequences and calamities that will inevitably befall them for their
disobedience, (thus manifesting His hatred for their sins).
this is of course is their well-deserved judgment, as in we reap what we sow.
but, at the end of all of this, God proclaims His mercy, for like it is written,
'Mercy rejoices over judgment'. and again, 'The Mercy Seat was placed above
the Tablets of Stone contained in the Ark.

there are so many examples of God's Love and Mercy exceeding His hatred and distain for sin.

as a side note, we both are forever grateful for His un-boundless, glorious, principles,
His Love reigns supreme.

 

[Dan58]

So then why the fall of man and pass it along to their children? Each generation could "learn" of good and evil individualy. At least then we are responsible for our own decisions and not the actions of those weve never even met.

Death entered the world through A&E, but your not responsible for their sin, your only accountable for your own sins. "Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned" (Romans 5:12). We live in a fallen world where good and evil already exist, so we don't need to learn of it.

But i would like to say one thing if i may. I state currently that i am no longer a xhristian. But it doesnt mean i hate God or Jesus. Ive been asked why and i ask in return. "why shoukd I? Jesus himself nor god has done anything to me." So if the plan is get me to "hate"God he will have to do better than turning the church against me.

Getting you to "hate" was never God's plan. Redemption was always His plan, He wants your love and not your hate. "Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends" (John 15:13). Jesus didn't do anything "to you", but he's done everything for you.

 

[Angela53510]

Your opening question is a false dichotomy . It shows a lack of understanding of the character of God.

God is justice AND love. That means, he hates sin, but loves us. But it means we have to follow him, with all our hearts, souls, minds and strength.

We do not have the right to trample on God's Word and will for our lives. It means we obey God, even when it hurts. It means we can totally trust God.

Gadget, you have a lot of bitterness towards God, because you feel that he failed you. That he did not guide you correctly. That he made "mistakes" about your life. That your life is not "perfect."

The Bible is so clear, that this life is not perfect, but God can bring so much good out of what seems like disaster.

"And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose." Romans 8:28

I learned this verse almost 35 years ago, and I have clung to it through severe illnesses, financial and marriage issues, and God has completely worked everything together for good. That means I am still happily married to my husband, we are comfortable financially, and despite deformities and the pain of Rheumatoid Arthritis, I know God is working amazing things in my life. But even if my life was in ruins, I would still trust God for each moment of each day. Because God is worthy!

You really do have to persevere in the Christian faith. And expect suffering! It is the norm or standard in the New Testament. We are expected to rejoice in our sufferings.

"Not only that, but we rejoice in our sufferings, knowing that suffering produces endurance, [SUP]4 [/SUP]and endurance produces character, and character produces hope, [SUP]5 [/SUP]and hope does not put us to shame, because God's love has been poured into our hearts through the Holy Spirit who has been given to us." Romans 5:3-5

"Count it all joy, my brothers, when you meet trials of various kinds, [SUP]3 [/SUP]for you know that the testing of your faith produces steadfastness. [SUP]4 [/SUP]And let steadfastness have its full effect, that you may be perfect and complete, lacking in nothing." James 1:2-3

I think your faith has been tested, but instead of trusting God, you blamed God, when you should have blamed yourself for following paths that were not necessarily from God (An Arts degree? And you expected a job??)

You have been tempted by the devil, as far as your lesbian lifestyle, and found wanting! Rather than resist, and stick to your husband, praying for him, you turned to a lifestyle that is not godly, often promiscuous, and certainly not edifying, whatever the LGTB movement says. It is empty, it is godless, and it is sad!

My question for you would be:

"Why are you in this forum?"

You say you are not a Christian any longer. Are you here for help, to learn to trust God again? Or are you here to mock or even proselytize for whatever you believe or don't believe?
We can help you if it is the former, not so much the latter? Be honest about why you are here. I would love to be your friend, and share all that Jesus Christ has done in my life. But it is not about me, or you, but about God.

I see you are about my age. But I feel that you think your life is over. You may live 20 or even 30 years longer - what are you going to do in that time? Get more bitter, blame God and be filled with sorrow and hate?

Or turn back to God? Repent of your actions of lesbianism, and start reading the Bible? Find out who God is and how you can serve him. Stop focusing on yourself, and worldly ambitions and/or failures.

God restores the broken hearted, he can restore you too!

"Praise the Lord!
For it is good to sing praises to our God;
for it is pleasant, and a song of praise is fitting.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]The Lord builds up Jerusalem;
he gathers the outcasts of Israel.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]He heals the brokenhearted
and binds up their wounds.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]He determines the number of the stars;
he gives to all of them their names.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]Great is our Lord, and abundant in power;
his understanding is beyond measure.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]The Lord lifts up the humble;
he casts the wicked to the ground." Psalm 147:1-6

 

[Gadget]

Your opening question is a false dichotomy . It shows a lack of understanding of the character of God.

God is justice AND love. That means, he hates sin, but loves us. But it means we have to follow him, with all our hearts, souls, minds and strength.

We do not have the right to trample on God's Word and will for our lives. It means we obey God, even when it hurts. It means we can totally trust God.

Gadget, you have a lot of bitterness towards God, because you feel that he failed you. That he did not guide you correctly. That he made "mistakes" about your life. That your life is not "perfect."

The Bible is so clear, that this life is not perfect, but God can bring so much good out of what seems like disaster.

"And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose." Romans 8:28

I learned this verse almost 35 years ago, and I have clung to it through severe illnesses, financial and marriage issues, and God has completely worked everything together for good. That means I am still happily married to my husband, we are comfortable financially, and despite deformities and the pain of Rheumatoid Arthritis, I know God is working amazing things in my life. But even if my life was in ruins, I would still trust God for each moment of each day. Because God is worthy!

You really do have to persevere in the Christian faith. And expect suffering! It is the norm or standard in the New Testament. We are expected to rejoice in our sufferings.

"Not only that, but we rejoice in our sufferings, knowing that suffering produces endurance, [SUP]4 [/SUP]and endurance produces character, and character produces hope, [SUP]5 [/SUP]and hope does not put us to shame, because God's love has been poured into our hearts through the Holy Spirit who has been given to us." Romans 5:3-5

"Count it all joy, my brothers, when you meet trials of various kinds, [SUP]3 [/SUP]for you know that the testing of your faith produces steadfastness. [SUP]4 [/SUP]And let steadfastness have its full effect, that you may be perfect and complete, lacking in nothing." James 1:2-3

I think your faith has been tested, but instead of trusting God, you blamed God, when you should have blamed yourself for following paths that were not necessarily from God (An Arts degree? And you expected a job??)

You have been tempted by the devil, as far as your lesbian lifestyle, and found wanting! Rather than resist, and stick to your husband, praying for him, you turned to a lifestyle that is not godly, often promiscuous, and certainly not edifying, whatever the LGTB movement says. It is empty, it is godless, and it is sad!

My question for you would be:

"Why are you in this forum?"

You say you are not a Christian any longer. Are you here for help, to learn to trust God again? Or are you here to mock or even proselytize for whatever you believe or don't believe?
We can help you if it is the former, not so much the latter? Be honest about why you are here. I would love to be your friend, and share all that Jesus Christ has done in my life. But it is not about me, or you, but about God.

I see you are about my age. But I feel that you think your life is over. You may live 20 or even 30 years longer - what are you going to do in that time? Get more bitter, blame God and be filled with sorrow and hate?

Or turn back to God? Repent of your actions of lesbianism, and start reading the Bible? Find out who God is and how you can serve him. Stop focusing on yourself, and worldly ambitions and/or failures.

God restores the broken hearted, he can restore you too!

"Praise the Lord!
For it is good to sing praises to our God;
for it is pleasant, and a song of praise is fitting.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]The Lord builds up Jerusalem;
he gathers the outcasts of Israel.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]He heals the brokenhearted
and binds up their wounds.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]He determines the number of the stars;
he gives to all of them their names.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]Great is our Lord, and abundant in power;
his understanding is beyond measure.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]The Lord lifts up the humble;
he casts the wicked to the ground." Psalm 147:1-6

Wow, where do i begin? Okay, first of all. No, i do not blame God for anytging. I made those choices. He dudnt cone down and put a gun to my head. I made those choices and i have to accept tge respondibilities of those choices.

2nd. You assume that i committed the sin of having a homosexual relationship? If not please forgive for my misunderstanding. But if do, then what evidence do you have? I have never had a relationship like that or been unfaithful to my husband. Ive been maaried only ince and once is the amount of times i will marry.

So what am i upset with? Its the church. Not everyone but those that act wicket and call it good. If i was to walk down the street and approch a stranger and beat them to death, the general consences would be that i did a horrible thing. But ive seen christians do this and claim they are doing the will of god.

Im tired of the judging. If im apart if tge lgbt group then i MUST be in a lezbian relationship. If i try and follow Gods path and it leads me somewhere, then its no longer about how i was trying to follow God it becomes "how stupid could you be?"

But the worse offense, the one that fires me up faster than anything, is this claim that i was never a christian. I gave up way too much to accept otherise. And uf it us trye, that i was never a "real" christian, then i want a refynd. I want back my youth. Friends. Family and opportunities i missed out on for my faith. But im not getting it back. And when it comes down to just me and Jesus, i dint want ut back. I just want the truth.

Which leads me to "why are you here?"



Im here to find that truth. People tell me that everyone knows gid because hes in all our hearts. Welk my heart tells me that God is this loving and kind hearted parent who hurts when you hurt. That created a way for people to be with him forever. Not this sick perverted dictated that seems to be becoming the idea of who God and Jesus are. My heart tells me you try to be a goid person because you want to please him. Not out of fear.

As fir my life? Yeah its over. I have nothing to look forward too; the church made sure of that. I only stck around for my hubbys sake andonce he passes ill decide when and where. I wont give the church the satisfaction of my blood for them to revel in.

Im sirry for my rant and i tried to remain as nutral as possible. But you asked and i dont hide things.

Things worked out for you. Wonderful. I am glad to hear it.and thats realky not being sarcastic either i am happy for you. But not everyone is so lucky (or blessed).
So now its just between me and Jesus. My first and my last friend.

 

[VioletReigns]

Father, I don't know the pain and heaviness of Gadget's heart. I surely know pain but I don't know her personal pain. Yet I'm crushed with her despair and disappointments right now. I'm crushed inside for her heartbreaking thoughts. The confusion, the weight of discouragement. The mockery of life that has been her portion. Holy God, help her out of this dark place. Help my sister Gadget, Father. In Jesus' name I ask You, please. I know You are faithful. And I thank You for hearing the prayer of her heart.

 

[ColinCat]

I also have trouble with this.

If God loves us more than he hates sin then why does Sin prevail over us.

He cursed all women with the pain of childbirth because of Eve, he cursed all of us with death because of what they did in the garden and he punished all the snakes that would ever exist because of one talking snake who may have not even been a real snake.

All this Hate the Sin not the sinner stuff really doesn't work when actually consider what we are all supposed to be burdoned with because of what happened thousands of years ago.

He certainly seems to keep grudges.

 

[JesusLives]

Truly sorry Gadget for the hurt you have had to suffer in your life and the disappointment that we humans Christian or other wise have inflected upon you. I said a prayer to God earlier this year that went like this. How am I going to make it in heaven with all those people when I don't like people...(because of hurt and harm inflected toward me in my lifetime).....I am in the process of learning God's answer to that question.

We humans are hurtful and disappointing, but God is our only hope. We can only keep our eyes on Jesus as He will always be faithful toward us and we can trust in Him to know what is the best for us. People will disappoint us as they are human and sinful, we don't treat each other the way we should because we are sinful this is not an excuse but a fact.

For me knowing God is trustworthy and cares and loves me keeps me going on and I do try and keep my eyes on Jesus as I know He was the only one who walked the human life without sin and He did this for us so that when He died for us and took on our sins that God the Father when we have repented does not look at our sinful life but the life Jesus lived for us instead. Jesus life covers ours and we are justified through His blood and the Father sees us as perfect through what Jesus did for us.

I wish I could say that your life will be great from here on out, but that's not going to happen.... What I can say is that God promised to walk this life with you and as long as you rest in Him He will give you an inner peace that you can count on as you can fully trust and rely on God to be with you to the end of the world. Praying you will find that peace that God offers and you will rest in Him.

 

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If i may just add as a side note. Lets just say that we arent born with original sin. "hypothetucally" despite our best efforts, we would still fall short and sin.

But the original sin i guess is the real focal point. Because of that one sin, we all fell? Instead if starting again?