Sorry, Jesus died for all sin past present and future, even for the ones who are not saved - whose sin are they paying for in hell?
Thank you for affording me the pleasure of presenting the heart of the gospel of Christ for the sake of the whole world.
Where is that in the Bible, dying for all past sins? Now THAT sounds like a modern hymn thing. If He died for all sins past, then all those folks drowned in the flood are in heaven? How shall they believe on Christ who died wicked? How could anyone under the law 2,000-4,000 years ago have believed on Jesus, or benefited from His blood? They depended upon the blood of animals, not just their death. Their death produced the blood God required. Not a bit of the animal flesh was taken inside their tabernacle, but was burned up.
What I do find concerning sins past is in
Romans 3:25-26 (KJV)
[SUP]25 [/SUP] Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
[SUP]26 [/SUP] To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.
The people that died and still die each pay for their own rejection of God's provision. That rejection is completed with unbelief unto spiritual death.
The plan of God was first materialized in the wilderness tabernacle of
Exodus 25:8-9 (KJV)
[SUP]8 [/SUP] And let them make me a sanctuary; that I may dwell among them.
[SUP]9 [/SUP] According to all that I shew thee, after the pattern of the tabernacle, and the pattern of all the instruments thereof, even so shall ye make it.
God spoke of a tabernacle not in existence on earth yet while Moses was yet in the 40 year journey around Mt. Sinai, in the barren wilderness. He showed it to Moses a command at a time, revealing the pattern after the heavenly tabernacle. Reading Exodus one comes upon the requirement of the blood of sacrifice. What you said denies most of the Bible. There is no foundation of forgiveness or eternal salvation apart from God's demand on blood He accepts.
This is a made up doctrine of people who responded harshly to John Macarthur - you should probably read that He died once for sin
It is all clearly explained in the book of Hebrews. What I posted earlier is at the heart of Christianity, the very blood of Jesus the only way to satisfy Father God.
There isn't an altar of blood in heaven where we over and over again wash our sins - we are washed because of his death, blood as the picture etc
I agree, else we all have to go to Heaven to be cleansed of sin. That isn't required. What is required is in the scriptures above. Jesus is the propitiation (the lid of the Ark, the atoning victim) that God provided
through faith in His blood, nowhere said to be through faith in His death. Some Catholics like to present Jesus still on the cross, dead. That is equivalent to worshipers at the tabernacle adoring the animal ashes instead of trusting that the High Priest was properly presenting the blood before the Ark of the Covenant. That was the pattern God used for the eternal covenant in Christ. The law part was for the Jews, and held over for the law breakers (unrepented sinners, habitual criminals).
this is probably too short of a reply, but hymns are not Scripture - and i dont' really care enough about this topic to argue
You replied to the thread OP, and your post ought to be concerning that. I have replied to your post about that. Again, what I am posting is for the edification of those who believe on the blood of Christ unto salvation. Now believers know the basis of their salvation, the very blood of Jesus which Father God has accepted once and for all who believe upon Jesus the Christ of God. Any other door you attempt to take will only lead to eternal death. I bought an old house once and worked hard to open a locked door in the basement. I couldn't see any sense in a door like that in a basement. Yet I invested much labor in getting through it. Behind that door was a brick wall. Behind it was fill dirt. When the original owner finished the basement walls out to make a living space, they used an old door to help form a pleasant wall mostly made of cedar planks. The dirt fill was to raise the house above the flood plain, making a former ground floor into a basement.
I tell that because I think your theory is like that fill dirt and the fake door. I am not condemning you, but recognize an old thought pattern that did lead to
some unscriptural hymns. What was originally thought to be workable was not to survive. The whole foundation of the house required being put on solid ground. Read Hebrews.
I will say many hymns are based on scriptural truth. I hope some day you will hear, then sing along with those hymns and enjoy worshiping the Lord with those.