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well there's "judging" and there's "judging"
some wag said "i'm not your judge, but i am a fruit inspector"
i get all uncomfortable-like when we start calling out hellfire and eternal damnation on each other, as though we have the authority or knowledge to do that. i know, Christ told the apostles that what they forgave would be forgiven - but ultimately salvation is in the hands of God.
i'm not your enemy, nb, even though we fuss at each other a lot. you believe in the risen Christ; i believe in the risen Christ -- we're both headed to be with Him eternally, so we really ought to be able to get along with each other on earth. i mean, here's a 53-page long "discussion" about baptism we're having, but we've both been baptized, and we both say every believer must be baptized .. fundamentally we agree about so much, i don't think it's my place to ever say "you're not saved"
you know? at the end of the day we ought to be side by side serving in the same soup kitchen. we shouldn't let our different understandings of the mysteries of God turn brothers into enemies. God will show us all the truth of it in His own time, when everything is revealed.
some wag said "i'm not your judge, but i am a fruit inspector"
i get all uncomfortable-like when we start calling out hellfire and eternal damnation on each other, as though we have the authority or knowledge to do that. i know, Christ told the apostles that what they forgave would be forgiven - but ultimately salvation is in the hands of God.
i'm not your enemy, nb, even though we fuss at each other a lot. you believe in the risen Christ; i believe in the risen Christ -- we're both headed to be with Him eternally, so we really ought to be able to get along with each other on earth. i mean, here's a 53-page long "discussion" about baptism we're having, but we've both been baptized, and we both say every believer must be baptized .. fundamentally we agree about so much, i don't think it's my place to ever say "you're not saved"
you know? at the end of the day we ought to be side by side serving in the same soup kitchen. we shouldn't let our different understandings of the mysteries of God turn brothers into enemies. God will show us all the truth of it in His own time, when everything is revealed.
Is that some ????
1, Believe that a person is NOT Saved until they are "water baptized"
2. Our sins are NOT forgiven Until "water baptized"
3, We do NOT receive the Holy Spirit until "water baptized"
4. "water baptism" is NOT a work
To me whoever Believes the above statements are taking away from what Jesus Christ
did on the Cross.
Their have been Hundreds of verses of Scripture that have been posted that
Contradict this Belief about "water baptized"
Paul Agreed with me
I Corinthians 1:17
King James Bible
For Christ sent me not to baptize,
but to preach the gospel:
not with wisdom of words,
lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.
IF "water baptism" is a Requirement for Salvation
Just WHY did Paul say
That he came NOT TO BAPTIZE.... ????