Is it possible to get, "unborn again"?

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newbirth said:
this is not scripture just your opinion....seal as in mark of ownership or sealed as closed box ...the seal is a mark of ownership.....if one is not worthy of that mark on the day of redemption God takes his mark and they go where they belong....that is why he warns ...
Ephesians 4:30
And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
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Look NOBIRTH.....you should actually believe the scriptures you post instead of standing on your own merits for salvation....go study the very verse you quoted as it teaches a wonderful truth about being SEALED (GOD'S STAMP that YOU BELONG TO HIM) until the day of BUY BACK (REDEMPTION) God does not UNMARK those who have been SEALED.....such foolish ignorance for sure!
 
eternally-gratefull said:
lol. You and your work based gospel. who think you can be good enough to earn it (or not lose it which is the same thing)

I was not born again of flesh and blood (sweat and hard labor) i was born again of God. He did the work.

1 Peter 1:23
having been born again, not of corruptible seed but incorruptible, through the word of God which lives and abides forever,
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You need to study 1 Peter 1:23, the incorruptible seed IS the word of God, I noticed you did not place the word "through" in bold, you cannot be begotten of the spirit unless you "obey" the incorruptible word of God (although you do a good job trying, even you cannot corrupt the word of God)
 
dcontroversal said:
Because ones life and witness can be ruined by riotous living.....no where is salvation tied to this verse.......!
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so if per chance satan devours one ...is he still saved?....if he is still saved then there is no need or the warning....
if ones life is ruined by riotous living ...is that one still saved?
 
dcontroversal said:
Look NOBIRTH.....you should actually believe the scriptures you post instead of standing on your own merits for salvation....go study the very verse you quoted as it teaches a wonderful truth about being SEALED (GOD'S STAMP that YOU BELONG TO HIM) until the day of BUY BACK (REDEMPTION) God does not UNMARK those who have been SEALED.....such foolish ignorance for sure!
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I can't see what he posted. But since I can see in your quote.

He just proved how he can not read. Sealed UNTIL THE DAY OF REDEMPTION.

It does not say sealed until we fail, or mess up, or no longer earn it. It means sealed until that day when we are standing in front of Christ, Our payment is sealed in full, It is the HS who seals us, I guess he thinks he is more powerful that God and can break the seal of God. Some people.
 
Ella85 said:
Placing my own opinion. ?? Well obviously that's why i am here, to give an opinion and also what makes your opinion righteous?

I Don't agree with your comment so.....too bad.
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Yours is opinion, I used scripture, I showed Peter warning the saved the devil wished to devour them, that means they can be lost, where is anything to back up your "opinion?"
 
dcontroversal said:
Look NOBIRTH.....you should actually believe the scriptures you post instead of standing on your own merits for salvation....go study the very verse you quoted as it teaches a wonderful truth about being SEALED (GOD'S STAMP that YOU BELONG TO HIM) until the day of BUY BACK (REDEMPTION) God does not UNMARK those who have been SEALED.....such foolish ignorance for sure!
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and I suppose no one can grieve the HS....
 
Jabberjaw said:
You need to study 1 Peter 1:23, the incorruptible seed IS the word of God, I noticed you did not place the word "through" in bold, you cannot be begotten of the spirit unless you "obey" the incorruptible word of God (although you do a good job trying, even you cannot corrupt the word of God)
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lol.. So. What is the guideline of obeying? what is the cuttoff mark of when you have obeyed enough, and have not obeyed enough. Who will be the person who is left out because they were one work short of having enough obeying to be born again of the incorruptible seed?

or is he just talking about the gospel. annd obeying it. Believe in the name of Jesus, And you will be saved.
 
newbirth said:
so if per chance satan devours one ...is he still saved?....if he is still saved then there is no need or the warning....
if ones life is ruined by riotous living ...is that one still saved?
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Maybe go ask Job and open your eyes to the truth.......and read 1st Corinthians 3 to answer your last question.......!
 
Jabberjaw said:
Yours is opinion, I used scripture, I showed Peter warning the saved the devil wished to devour them, that means they can be lost, where is anything to back up your "opinion?"
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No, it does not mean they can be lost. what a prospect. Being devoured where you are not usefull at a particular time, and being lost are two different things.
 
newbirth said:
and I suppose no one can grieve the HS....
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To grieve does not mean lost...just as my son can do things that cause me to grieve, but NEVER STOPS BEING MY SON....you guys are blind for sure! Every argument you make belies your ignorance of scripture and rejection of truth!
 
dcontroversal said:
To grieve does not mean lost...just as my son can do things that cause me to grieve, but NEVER STOPS BEING MY SON....you guys are blind for sure! Every argument you make belies your ignorance of scripture and rejection of truth!
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imagine if your parents kicked you out of their family every time you grieved them with your behavior. All kids would be homeless..

Do these people think?
 
Jabberjaw said:
Yours is opinion, I used scripture, I showed Peter warning the saved the devil wished to devour them, that means they can be lost, where is anything to back up your "opinion?"
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The only difference between your opinion and hers is the fact that yours reeks of blindness and a rejection of truth while applying scripture that has nothing to do with salvation...

Did Satan devour Job
Did Satan desire to sift PETER

Go open your eyes oh blind one!
 
Jabberjaw said:
Yours is opinion, I used scripture, I showed Peter warning the saved the devil wished to devour them, that means they can be lost, where is anything to back up your "opinion?"
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Just because you used scripture doesn't mean you used the right scripture to back up your theory.
Anyone call pull verses from the bible, doesn't mean it proves your opinion on the matter. It comes back to being able to understand the verse being used in the first place.
So you have your belief I'll have mine.
God doesn't lie or change His word.
 
Ella85 said:
Just because you used scripture doesn't mean you used the right scripture to back up your theory.
Anyone call pull verses from the bible, doesn't mean it proves your opinion on the matter. It comes back to being able to understand the verse being used in the first place.
So you have your belief I'll have mine.
God doesn't lie or change His word.
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Yeah no doubt and don't worry...workers for salvation and those who teach you can loose your salvation are blind to the truth and will always do things that belie their blindness to the truth as it actually takes being saved to understand the word HAHHAHA
 
1 Corinthians 6:19-20 Ye are not your own but you are bought with a price therefore glorify God in your body and in your spirit which are Gods.

After one has submitted their will to Christ and are born again they are now in eternal submission to Gods will. You cannot negate the price Christ paid for your soul. The diabolical one had ownership but now your are Christ's. It's a no deposit no return deal.

Can a butterfly return to the caterpillar? Understanding what it means to be born again negates all these frivolous arguments over losing something that God has done through a great gift of His grace. Some will never accept and never learn so they remain foolish.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
dcontroversal said:
No it doesn't.....it teaches that those who add works to faith to gain or keep salvation are not teaching and or standing in the position of grace.....gospel of a different kind no power to save and your works for salvation bs will not fly with me dude...go bark up another tree....!
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You cannot fall from grace if you never had it. still calling names and using short had for cursing, real class example you show... that's what you do when the big dogs tree you.
 
newbirth said:
this is not scripture just your opinion....seal as in mark of ownership or sealed as closed box ...the seal is a mark of ownership.....if one is not worthy of that mark on the day of redemption God takes his mark and they go where they belong....that is why he warns ...
Ephesians 4:30
And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
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talk about opinion, even Ephesians which you quoted speaks of 'sealed unto the day of redemption'.
 
eternally-gratefull said:
I can't see what he posted. But since I can see in your quote.

He just proved how he can not read. Sealed UNTIL THE DAY OF REDEMPTION.

It does not say sealed until we fail, or mess up, or no longer earn it. It means sealed until that day when we are standing in front of Christ, Our payment is sealed in full, It is the HS who seals us, I guess he thinks he is more powerful that God and can break the seal of God. Some people.
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the day of redemption is when he cleans his Church separate the sheep from the goats...the wheat from the tares...The HS does not force us to do anything...look how easy it is for you to post rubbish...you speak of seal as in a hex or something...what do you mean payments are sealed?? we have be bought with a price paid for over 2000 yrs....if you continue like this the spirit will be glad to be rid of you....it is not a seal to be broken like tamper proof...but seal as in ID....one can cover their ID ...that is why he says ...
Matthew 10:33
But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.
 
dcontroversal said:
Look NOBIRTH.....you should actually believe the scriptures you post instead of standing on your own merits for salvation....go study the very verse you quoted as it teaches a wonderful truth about being SEALED (GOD'S STAMP that YOU BELONG TO HIM) until the day of BUY BACK (REDEMPTION) God does not UNMARK those who have been SEALED.....such foolish ignorance for sure!
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another second amen.
 
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