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I thought this was rather apropos, in light of the three feet of snow we have, and still no snowmen evolving in my yard.
And yes, it is a joke! But based on truth, in that there are so many gaps in the paradigm of evolution that science will never be able to explain! Precisely because it is not now and never will be the best model for the explanation of origins.
And yes, it is a joke! But based on truth, in that there are so many gaps in the paradigm of evolution that science will never be able to explain! Precisely because it is not now and never will be the best model for the explanation of origins.
Tintin, I wanted to give you a 'like', but then I read your final paragraph. Sorry. 
What you need to understand (and I am sure you do, but you are not incorporating it into your thinking) is that every field of science began with a blank slate. Unless you think that the acquisition of knowledge is going to progress flawlessly to a perfect state of understanding, then you have to accept there will be false starts along the way. Yes? Agreed. So, given this state of affairs why should you find it amusing when science corrects previous misunderstandings? This is not a flaw in the process, this is the way science works. It's not as if anything in the Bible has anything close to the understanding science has gained.
What you need to understand (and I am sure you do, but you are not incorporating it into your thinking) is that every field of science began with a blank slate. Unless you think that the acquisition of knowledge is going to progress flawlessly to a perfect state of understanding, then you have to accept there will be false starts along the way. Yes? Agreed. So, given this state of affairs why should you find it amusing when science corrects previous misunderstandings? This is not a flaw in the process, this is the way science works. It's not as if anything in the Bible has anything close to the understanding science has gained.
I think the point is that education is deemed overrated: "Seriously though I've seen a bunch of things in this life and there is more to it than what the TV and School tell you." Though I am not sure why school and TV are being lumped together as sources of learning (maybe it is because of science documentaries such as the recent broadcast of Cosmos hosted by Neil deGrasse Tyson).
I generally agree with your first two paragraphs.
I would part company with you here. You of course are coming at this from a different direction. I am like that geographer for National Geographic who gives a single colour code depicting where Christianity exists on a map of the world. I am not taking into account those different groups who rule out others as being true Christians. You will never see a map of the religions of the world that show true and false Christians, or true and false Muslims. We secularists designate people by what they call themselves and let others fight over who the true faithful are.
I would part company with you here. You of course are coming at this from a different direction. I am like that geographer for National Geographic who gives a single colour code depicting where Christianity exists on a map of the world. I am not taking into account those different groups who rule out others as being true Christians. You will never see a map of the religions of the world that show true and false Christians, or true and false Muslims. We secularists designate people by what they call themselves and let others fight over who the true faithful are.
John, I thought that was explained to you, but I will give it another go. Evolution makes no effort to explain how life on earth originated. What it deals with is the transformation that occurred after the first life forms arose. So yes, evolution does explain how we hominids got here: we evolved from lower life forms.
Why we are here? That presumes a purpose. There is none beyond the obvious that on some planets conditions exist that make life possible.
Where are we going? In what sense? My first thought was that you meant what are humans evolving into, but maybe you meant something else?
It explains how we arose from other life forms, and if we are diligent we might just be able to work out that ancestry in some detail. That is an exciting prospect, don't you think?
Why we are here? That presumes a purpose. There is none beyond the obvious that on some planets conditions exist that make life possible.
Where are we going? In what sense? My first thought was that you meant what are humans evolving into, but maybe you meant something else?
It explains how we arose from other life forms, and if we are diligent we might just be able to work out that ancestry in some detail. That is an exciting prospect, don't you think?
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I have a question for an atheist, if it's all right..and I, by no means, intend to derail this thread...
i would just like to know what you make of those scientists, or physicists, or philosophers, who are creationists? How do u suppose they came to a different conclusion then, say...yourself?
i mean no disrespect, I am just honestly curious as to how u would answer that
i would just like to know what you make of those scientists, or physicists, or philosophers, who are creationists? How do u suppose they came to a different conclusion then, say...yourself?
i mean no disrespect, I am just honestly curious as to how u would answer that
Well most atheists go around battling mostly Christians.
I don't see them expending that much energy attacking radical Islamists or other religions where women are abused and what not.
They prefer fighting Santa Claus than a religion which puts a price on people's head. Moral relativism
I don't see them expending that much energy attacking radical Islamists or other religions where women are abused and what not.
They prefer fighting Santa Claus than a religion which puts a price on people's head. Moral relativism
If I lived in an Islamic nation, I'd be just as outspoken against Islam (unless speaking openly would endanger my life - in which case I would speak out anonymously if at all possible).
Also, all morals are relative, even "absolute" morality is relative to God's standards. What we refer to as absolute and relative morality is based on impractical terminology.
Fire away.
There are few biologists, physicists, or perhaps even philosophers who are creationists. There are quite a few, however, who are theistic evolutionists. I have no issues with them as they are essentially saying the same thing I am. You will find more anti-evolutionists among those scientists who don't actually deal with evolution in their line of work.
How will we find answers if we don't ask questions? Feel free to indulge your curiosity.
There are few biologists, physicists, or perhaps even philosophers who are creationists. There are quite a few, however, who are theistic evolutionists. I have no issues with them as they are essentially saying the same thing I am. You will find more anti-evolutionists among those scientists who don't actually deal with evolution in their line of work.
How will we find answers if we don't ask questions? Feel free to indulge your curiosity.