STOP BASHING CHRISTIAN METAL!!

[Atwood]

Can anyone show me how these lyrics do not God God glory, praise and worship?

And this is how it feels when I ignore the words you spoke to me
And this is where I lose myself when I keep running away from you
And this is who I am when, when I don't know myself anymore
And this is what I choose when it's all left up to me

Breathe your life into me, I can feel you
I'm falling, falling faster
Breathe your life into me, I still need you
I'm falling, falling

Breathe into me
Breathe into me

And this is how it looks when I am standing on the edge
And this is how I break apart when I finally hit the ground
And this is how it hurts when I pretend I don't feel any pain
And this is how I disappear when I throw myself away

Breathe your life into me, I can feel you
I'm falling, falling faster
Breathe your life into me, I still need you
I'm falling, falling

Breathe into me
Breathe into me
Breathe into me
Breathe into me

Breathe your life into me, I can feel you
I'm falling, falling faster
Breathe your life into me, I still need you
I'm falling, falling, breathe into me

Breathe your life into me
I'm falling, falling faster
Breathe your life into me
Falling, falling, falling

Breathe into me
Breathe into me
Breathe into me
Breathe into me, breathe

Well, I have a big hammer in my hand, and and an old vinyl Heavy Metal record on the concrete along with Pat Boone's record:

BASH, BASH, BASH, BASH, BASH, BASH, BASH, BASH, BASH, BASH, BASH, BASH, BASH, BASH, BASH, BASH, BASH, BASH, BASH, BASH, BASH, BASH, BASH, BASH, BASH, BASH, BASH, BASH, BASH, BASH, BASH, BASH, BASH, BASH, BASH, BASH, BASH, BASH, BASH, BASH,

Hey, I'm only joking.
I don't judge the music itself, for there is no Bible basis on which to do that. The lyrics can be judged. and I don't condemn the lyrics you posted,
but I do notice that the words I and me are repeated over and over in it.

I, yai, yai yai ! Canta, no llores . . . .

LOL

 

[jandian]

Not all Christian metal is satanic; however quite a lot is. just like in traditional genres. Its not just about words either. Its about the spirit behind the words. Just like the diviner girl who followed Paul in d book of Acts saying "these men be men of God here them". she was saying the right thing. but and without discernment some of us would not have known that there was a different ungodly spirit in operation. But, one "in the name of JESUS" and he was out of there.

All scripture is written for learning people.

LEARN!!!!!'

Love that WORD..

 

[posthuman]

Not all Christian metal is satanic; however quite a lot is. just like in traditional genres. Its not just about words either. Its about the spirit behind the words. Just like the diviner girl who followed Paul in d book of Acts saying "these men be men of God here them". she was saying the right thing. but and without discernment some of us would not have known that there was a different ungodly spirit in operation. But, one "in the name of JESUS" and he was out of there.

All scripture is written for learning people.

LEARN!!!!!'

Love that WORD..

As we were going to the place of prayer, we were met by a slave girl who had a spirit of divination and brought her owners much gain by fortune-telling. She followed Paul and us, crying out,

“These men are servants of the Most High God, who proclaim to you the way of salvation.”
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And this she kept doing for many days. Paul, having become greatly annoyed, turned and said to the spirit,

“I command you in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her.”
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And it came out that very hour.
(Acts 16:16-18)

this does not say that the spirit in the slave girl was evil. only paraphrases, not translations, use the word "evil" or "demon" here. i'm not arguing about it, but it's interesting that the word isn't "demon" or "devil" but "spirit" -- not the same word Luke uses in his gospel to describe Christ casting out demons.

it does however explicitly say her masters were making a lot of money off of her.

Paul who cast the spirit from her also in another place said he didn't "make merchandise of the gospel" (2 Corinthians 2:17).
the narrative then goes on to record not that anyone was astonished or in the least impressed by his casting out a spirit, but that the girl's masters were angry when they realized they could not make money from her any more, and they and the crowd beat Paul and threw him in prison because of what he did.

so i think an important point here is the wickedness of "selling" discernment and truth.

 

[jandian]

.....huh? I'm sorry. You seem to be suggesting that Paul casted out a good spirit in the name of JESUS.

 

[skipp]

i do.
i love all kinds of music, and even noise. i'm fond of bluegrass, chant, the heaviest of metal musics, electronic, jazz, world beat, country, classical, ambient . . . i even enjoy listening to the static on AM radio with an intermittent signal. i even enjoy the noise of an MRI scan, the cacaphony of insects and frogs at night near the woods, and the rustling of trees in the wind.

some of this has grown on me more as i age, some i've loved since i was young. i've always liked classical music, and the older i get the heavier the metal i prefer seems to get.

taste in music is a really funny thing. i believe it's well to praise the Lord with any sort of noise, if the intent is truly toward God. it's also wrong to cast it as a stumbling block before others who can't see past the rhythm or tone to the one the song is offered to - i can't say Christian metal is "wrong" but not all of it is "right" and it's not right for everyone; obviously not for anyone whose faith is such that they can't separate the noise of a loud, distorted guitar from the image of Satan.

not everyone has this immediate association; i consider it not much different from meats sacrificed before idols - where Paul cautions us against offending those whose conscience is "not too far removed" from idolatry. to some, it is nothing. to others, it is a pitfall. i'm sure there are brothers and sisters out there who think it's a sin to wear black clothing, because in their minds it is associated with evil -- does that make a colored cloth sinful? of course not, but it's not ours to judge each other in matters like this, but to keep our own selves from sin, or to cause our family to stumble into sin themselves.

Good post that really sums the whole thing up perfectly.

 

[phil112]

.........................(1)To anyone who considers it a "sin"... why don't you take a moment and look at your own sins before you go and bash others. Once you are perfect you can tell everyone what to do.
(2)To each his own, and if God has put it on your heart to not listen to Christian metal, then don't. But please do not judge others on it......................

1. Without commenting on the validity, or lack thereof, of "metal" music, using anothers' sin to justify your own is not going to get the job done. The whole "you sinned too so you don't have the right to say anything to me" attitude is not going to clear it with God.
2. Dead wrong! It isn't "to each his own". It is what God accepts as serving him, not what you want for yourself. There are no gray areas in living for the Lord. Trying to justify one's behaviour to another tells me that a person must have a problem with it themselves. A person living for God has no need to justify anything to anyone. Ever.

Now perhaps you didn't meant that post to sound like that, but it did. Whether that is the way you meant it or not, either way you need to make some kind of revision. Either in choice of words, or choice of whom you are trying to please, don't you think?

 

[A_Friend_In_Christ]

Bashing music is one thing, but why do Christians bash one another in life sometimes? Lets show God's love people. Amen.

 

[jsmoove]

No where in the bible does it say we have to play a certain cord, sing a certain tune in order to worship God. God can cover any genre he pleases. If he knows that someone can get saved through that music then he'll use it

 

[Jason0047]

I used to listen to Metallica, and some Megadeath before I was saved. After coming to Christ, I listened to a few Christian metal songs, but I couldn't get into them. For that type of music just didn't make any sense to me anymore. Heavy Metal music leads a person into a violent, angry, and prideful state. Yes, God does get angry at sin. But we are not to get angry or hateful in our worship with God. If you really love Jesus, try giving up the Heavy Metal for 1 year and just listen to real praise and worship music and devote more time in the Bible. Come back to it after 1 year and see how it makes your soul feel then. Personally, it vexes my soul to even hear such music; And I used to love it. Why? Because I used to be different. The old man. But I am now the new man. A new creature in Christ where all things have become new.

 

[Straightshot]

It is all about the objective and purpose of the music .... the greatest Christian band of rock style music is Petra

All of the songs written and played by the band are strictly from scripture

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWB4l5aQImE

 

[Jason0047]

I like some Christian Contemporary music. while I used to listen to Petra back in the day, I currently prefer Lincoln Brewster, and Kutless. But those bands are not Christian Heavy Metal. I believe Christian Heavy Metal is of another spirit. A spirit that is angry, prideful, etc. I know. I used to listen to Heavy Metal Music and knew how it made me feel when I was an unbeliever. It is not loving music but it is of a spirit of confusion and violent.

 

[Sophia]

I like some Christian Contemporary music. while I used to listen to Petra back in the day, I currently prefer Lincoln Brewster, and Kutless. But those bands are not Christian Heavy Metal. I believe Christian Heavy Metal is of another spirit. A spirit that is angry, prideful, etc. I know. I used to listen to Heavy Metal Music and knew how it made me feel when I was an unbeliever. It is not loving music but it is of a spirit of confusion and violent.

The connections that we make, back to when we were living for ourselves, can deeply affect our consciences. If it reminds us of our former selves, it's best to cut it off.

 

[elf3]

I like heavy metal not always for the words but I like the fast guitar rifts and intricate drumming and some metal singers are really good. It's not the music but how you let the music affect you. Now I do pay attention to lyrics so try not to listen to raunchy or sacrilegious lyrics. But I like the upbeat fast tempo gets me fired up for working. Most would totally condemn some of the bands I listen too but I like Christian metal also. It's not so much the music as the person listening to it.

But hey I know not everyone likes it and that's fine. There are certain types of music I despise but won't condemn anyone for listening too it.

 

[Sophia]

I like heavy metal not always for the words but I like the fast guitar rifts and intricate drumming and some metal singers are really good. It's not the music but how you let the music affect you. Now I do pay attention to lyrics so try not to listen to raunchy or sacrilegious lyrics. But I like the upbeat fast tempo gets me fired up for working. Most would totally condemn some of the bands I listen too but I like Christian metal also. It's not so much the music as the person listening to it.

But hey I know not everyone likes it and that's fine. There are certain types of music I despise but won't condemn anyone for listening too it.

How about my local "christian" radio network that plays jingle bell rock just because a "christian" artist sang it. *throws up all over desk*
They also play songs like "all I can do-o-o is say tha-a-nk you"… and I'm like "I'm sure you can do more than that to thank God for sending His Son to die on the Cross in your place to take the punishment for your sins, broski". I can't listen to cheesy songs about God. They pain my spirit, because it sounds more like they are making fun of God.
Words like "precious", "dear", "sweet", etc... are not very relevant descriptions of the Lord Almighty, full of Glory. He's not a helpless cute little child that needs to be protected from this cold dark world. He's the master of all, and worthy of worship, not to be subject to pity or cheek pinching.

 

[posthuman]

How about my local "christian" radio network that plays jingle bell rock just because a "christian" artist sang it. *throws up all over desk*

indeed, *bleaugh*

i've been revulsed by 'pop' music of every kind for a long time, and CCM isn't excluded. 'christian' rock and metal aren't untouched by it either, and usually well represented by people who pick out artists as examples of the ills of unapproved noise generation. it's worse to see my faith plasticized than to see the world in its commercialization and commoditization.
amen, all kinds of evil from the love of money, but my Lord drove out the moneychangers from the Father's house! and He has 7,000 reserved to Himself that have not bowed the knee

 

[Jason0047]

The connections that we make, back to when we were living for ourselves, can deeply affect our consciences. If it reminds us of our former selves, it's best to cut it off.

Some people think an electric guitar just sounds evil or wrong to them. But it is just an instrument, though. This is why I think they lump heavy metal with the playing of an electric guitar. Anyways, there are two possibilties here for thinking this way. One, they are old school and never really liked hearng a song with an alectric guitar in it before. Two, the music could remind them of the sinful things that they did at rock concerts, parties, etc. (Because of the similarity in sound).

However, it is the spirit behind the music.

The Christian condemporary songs I listen to do not have a violent or prideful spirit behind them. They do not invoke bad responses or bad emotions or invoke worldly thoughts. The music sounds peaceful and loving to me and it makes me rejoice greatly within the Spirit. I really can't do that with Heavy Metal because it is obviously a very agressive type music that is not peaceful and loving. There is a difference.

 

[Jason0047]

Also, I can immediately point out the difference of unknown songs when scanning the radio and listening to a Christian music station versus say a regular Rock station of unknown music. There is a different spirit between the two.

In addition, I have tried to like old school style type praise and worship (that is very slow and simple) and I just couldn't get it into it. Listening to such music wants to put me to sleep. For me, there was no real rejoicing and happiness in such music. Not that such music is wrong at all. For me, it simply did not make me really want to jump for joy in the Lord. I want to jump for joy in the Lord. I want to be excited and happy in my praise and worship of the Lord. There is nothing wrong with being happy and excited in the Lord.

But Heavy Metal. I feel a dark and wicked spirit of agression within that type of music.

 

[Jason0047]

Christian Heavy Metal doesn't make sense for three reasons. One, you can't hear the lyrics. Paul said he would rather speak five words with the understanding than five thousand words without the understanding. Two, the music is agrresive, violent, and prideful in sound. Christian Heavy Metal does not make me want to worship the Lord at all. It invokes aggressive, violent, and prideful feelings because the music is violent, aggressive, and prideful. Third, I can tell the difference between Christian Contemporary music and Regular Rock Music; Yet, I can't tell the difference between regular Heavy Metal and Christian Heavy Metal.

 

[Jason0047]

For those of you who contend that all Christian Contemporary songs are bad, I would encourage you to listen to the following video below and and ask yourself if this song sounds evil to you or not. Ask yourself, does it invoke you to want to do violence or to act aggressive?

[video=youtube;bnUXxl3amY8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnUXxl3amY8[/video]

 

[p_rehbein]

Whaaaaa???

Isn't Christian Metal.............or ANY Metal...........ALL ABOUT BASHING?

Bashing this, bashing that...........the LOUDER the better?

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