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.... Well, there are several. Temporal eternity, meaning that there has never been any existence where time was not part of it. In otherwords, time has existed eternally, without beginning or end. Then there is a non-temporal eternity, which is the idea of existent things without time itself, thus things not being part of a temporal shift at all.
You shouldn't curl up your nose at it, people a lot smarter than me do this stuff day in day out. People a lot smarter than you use scientific discovery to invent all sorts of things from medicines to electronics to space shuttles to microchips. You can thank quantum physics for transistor radios, ultraprecise clocks, precise cryptography, lasers, computers, cellphones etc etc.
You shouldn't curl up your nose at it, people a lot smarter than me do this stuff day in day out. People a lot smarter than you use scientific discovery to invent all sorts of things from medicines to electronics to space shuttles to microchips. You can thank quantum physics for transistor radios, ultraprecise clocks, precise cryptography, lasers, computers, cellphones etc etc.
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Potential energy doesn't have to be matter, but it makes no difference if it is. It's still eternal, in the second sense of the word; existent without the 'influence' of time, if you like. Time can only be a reality with motion and a point of reference. If something is not energetically free, there can't be time as we know it. Without time, who knows what that's like? Timeless potential energy. IT's hard to fathom because we keep wanting to ask 'but how long did it stay there for?' The application of lengths of time, however, is irrelevant when there's no time to measure.
Hi again, Cycel!
I posted (#333) to your post (#307). I don't see that you have responded, though you have responded to lots of other later posts here. Since this isn't the first time this has happened, I'm getting the impression that you don't really want to talk about it.
Here's some interesting (I think) articles that show the science of what I was talking about...
Do we have free will – a physicist’s perspective? |
How Physics and Neuroscience Dictate Your "Free" Will - Scientific American
If you really do want to talk about this stuff, let me know with a pm!
Dan
I posted (#333) to your post (#307). I don't see that you have responded, though you have responded to lots of other later posts here. Since this isn't the first time this has happened, I'm getting the impression that you don't really want to talk about it.
Here's some interesting (I think) articles that show the science of what I was talking about...
Do we have free will – a physicist’s perspective? |
How Physics and Neuroscience Dictate Your "Free" Will - Scientific American
If you really do want to talk about this stuff, let me know with a pm!
Dan
Uh, ALL molecules are made up of atoms. The molecules in a living cell are made up of atoms and so are rocks.
What are you trying to infer? That the proteins and sugars came from outer space? Hypothetically, the atoms and molecules washed from the rocks into the oceans, somehow came together to form complex molecules. Some of these were proteins and sugars and then they somehow assembled themselves together into self replicating molecules.
Like I said before, I ain't buying it.
What are you trying to infer? That the proteins and sugars came from outer space? Hypothetically, the atoms and molecules washed from the rocks into the oceans, somehow came together to form complex molecules. Some of these were proteins and sugars and then they somehow assembled themselves together into self replicating molecules.
Like I said before, I ain't buying it.
Potential energy come in two forms. Gravitational potential energy (a negative value) and mass energy (a positive value). The energy total of the universe is a mathematical 0. If you think of energy not in terms of quanitity of 'stuff' but as binary balancing forces that constantly go at each other. For instance, the positive mass energy of Earth is balanced by the negative energy value that gravity exerts on it, thus it is relatively stable. The wavefunction of quantum mechanics dictates the need for a shift in form, thus we get the expansion of the universe, al in flux, going from zero entropy and at present cascading toward total entropy. I hypothesize we'll return to zero entropy and back again, over and over, and make such a hypothesis on the basis that every facet of our currently universe is in essence energetic waveform called probability waves.
It's all vibrating energy; a singular waveform event with many facets and subsystems.
As regards to time, time can only come around when the energy has a chance to release ie. when events are able to happen.
It's all vibrating energy; a singular waveform event with many facets and subsystems.
As regards to time, time can only come around when the energy has a chance to release ie. when events are able to happen.
You keep asking where things came from, and when given an answer, you will ask where those parts came from, and then the parts beofre that. The truth is, we don't know where matter/energy orignally came from, and I would say you don't know either. But, trying to claim that because an atheist doesn't know the origin of matter doesn't lend any support towards a god. We don't know if energy has always existed or if it began to exist. That doesn't change the fact that there is no evidence for a god. The abscence of knowledge of one thing does not equal justification for belief in a different thing. It's called an argument from ignorance, and it's a logical fallacy. Whether you are inclined to believe in a creation or not is fine with me, but the fact that I don't pretend to know where the universe came from doesn't convince me that i therefore know the answer, and it must be an entity which is even more convoluted to explain the existence of than the universe itself. There is just no evidence or justification for that belief, in my opinion.
