100 Percent Proof that there is No Rapture

[Sophia]

I disagree with the modern view of eschatology, but as long as we agree that we must be prepare our hearts today, then at least we can agree on Christ.
Hebrews 3:12-14

 

[Chopper]

This is the first warning from JESUS in the end time chapter of Matthew 24. It is warning the Bride that another will come in the Grooms name.

Mat 24:4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
Mat 24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

LOLOLOL!!! That's hilarious!
Thanks, I really needed a good laugh!
Here's a clue for you, the name Jesus did not even exist until about 400 years ago, and misses the mark by a little over 1800 years, not to mention the fact name is not a Hebrew name.

 

[veryelect]

LOLOLOL!!! That's hilarious!
Thanks, I really needed a good laugh!
Here's a clue for you, the name Jesus did not even exist until about 400 years ago, and misses the mark by a little over 1800 years, not to mention the fact name is not a Hebrew name.

I think you misunderstood me. Here is the manuscript definition of the Name CHRIST:

G5547
Χριστός
Christos
khris-tos'
From G5548; anointed, that is, the Messiah, an epithet of Jesus: - Christ.

 

[veryelect]

Prove it to me and that's a canned answer because you cannot, I'm not that stupid.

The document 'Disproving The Rapture' is not a 'canned' answer. I wrote that document myself and you are not likely to find another document as thorough. It is all from GOD'S WORD with the important things pointed out that a reader may not pay attention to when they study.

 

[Chopper]

I think you misunderstood me. Here is the manuscript definition of the Name CHRIST:


G5547
Χριστός
Christos
khris-tos'
From G5548; anointed, that is, the Messiah, an epithet of Jesus: - Christ.

Perhaps I did misunderstand, based on what was said while knowing what I know.

This is the first warning from JESUS in the end time chapter of Matthew 24. It is warning the Bride that another will come in the Grooms name.


Mat 24:4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
Mat 24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

The thing here is the very name you speak of, which has no part in the name of Yah.
Yah is the short version of Yahuah (sounds like Yahuwah), and His Son is Yahushua, our Mashiah.
Looking at the names, we see that the Fathers' name is also in the Sons'name even as He said He is in the Father, and the Father in Him. Both of these names are from the Paleo Hebrew, where the name Iesos is Greek, and has nothing to do with Yahushua. It was simply a mistransliteration whether or not intentional is left to question, considering the Sanhedrin did not want people speaking the name of Yah openly.

 

[Hizikyah]

Sanhedrin did not want people speaking the name of Yah openly.

This next reading is the origin of the ban on the Name of the Most High: Yahweh

Talmud - Mas. Sotah 38a
"Another [Baraitha] taught: ‘On this wise ye shall bless the children of Israel’ — with the use of the Shem Hameforash.15 You say that it means with the Tetragrammaton; (Yahweh) but perhaps that is not so and a substituted name was used!

"but perhaps that is not so and a substituted name was used," No Scripture says anything like this at all, a Rabbi comes along and says, " "but perhaps that is not so," and after that Yahweh's Name is hidden. However it is not that FOOLISH and innocent, as it was on purpose that this was contrived:

Yeremyah 23:26-27, "How long will this be in the heart of the prophets who prophesy lies? Yes, they are prophets of the deceit of their own minds; Who devise; plan and scheme, to cause My people to forget My Name through their dreams, which they tell every man to his neighbor, just as their fathers have forgotten My Name for Baal (Lord)."

The Babylonian Talmud, Tractate Kiddushin, page 71a
...R. Abina opposed [two verses]: It is written, 'this is my name'; but it is also written, 'and this is my memorial'?__The Holy One, blessed be He, said: I am not called as I am written: I am written with yod he, but I am read, alef daleth.7. The Tetragrammaton is yod he waw he (YHWH); but it is read adonai (Lord) = alef daleth nun yod (ADNY)...

Talmud - Mas. Yoma 39b
His brethren [that year] the priests forbore to mention the Ineffable Name (YHWH) in pronouncing the [priestly] blessing.4 Our Rabbis taught: During the last forty years before the destruction of the Temple the lot [‘For the Lord’] did not come up in the right hand; nor did the crimson-coloured strap become white/"

 

[veryelect]

Perhaps I did misunderstand, based on what was said while knowing what I know.





The thing here is the very name you speak of, which has no part in the name of Yah.
Yah is the short version of Yahuah (sounds like Yahuwah), and His Son is Yahushua, our Mashiah.
Looking at the names, we see that the Fathers' name is also in the Sons'name even as He said He is in the Father, and the Father in Him. Both of these names are from the Paleo Hebrew, where the name Iesos is Greek, and has nothing to do with Yahushua. It was simply a mistransliteration whether or not intentional is left to question, considering the Sanhedrin did not want people speaking the name of Yah openly.

You are right about them not wanting people to say HIS Name openly, but what I'm saying is that JESUS is the translation for YAHSHUA which mean YAHAVEH'S SAVIOR, and CHRIST means 'The Anointed One'.
No matter how you associate the Name, CHRIST, the Anointed One is saying in Matthew 24 to take heed. That means take Warning! Warning that many will come in HIS NAME!

 

[Hizikyah]

the Sanhedrin did not want people speaking the name of Yah openly.

Sanhedrin putting a man on trial for speaking the Name of Yahweh, from their OWN records:

Talmud - Mas. Sanhedrin 56a
THE WHOLE DAY [OF THE TRIAL] THE WITNESSES ARE EXAMINED BY MEANS OF A SUBSTITUTE FOR THE DIVINE NAME, THUS, ‘MAY JOSE SMITE JOSE.’1 WHEN THE TRIAL WAS FINISHED, THE ACCUSED WAS NOT EXECUTED ON THIS EVIDENCE, BUT ALL PERSONS WERE REMOVED [FROM COURT], AND THE CHIEF WITNESS WAS TOLD, ‘STATE LITERALLY WHAT YOU HEARD. THEREUPON HE DID SO, [USING THE DIVINE NAME]. THE JUDGES THEN AROSE AND RENT THEIR GARMENTS, WHICH RENT WAS NOT TO BE RESEWN. THE SECOND WITNESS STATED; I TOO HAVE HEARD THUS’ [BUT NOT UTTERING THE DIVINE NAME], AND THE THIRD SAYS: ‘I TOO HEARD THUS’. GEMARA. It has been taught: [The blasphemer is not punished] unless he ‘blesses’ the Name, by the Name2 From the verse, How shall I curse [Ekkob]5 whom God hath not cursed;6 whilst the formal prohibition is contained in the verse, thou shalt not revile God.7 But perhaps it means ‘to pierce,’8 as it is written, [So Jehoiada the priest took a chest,] and bored [wa-yikkob]9 a hole in the lid of it,10 the formal injunction against this being the verses, Ye shall destroy the names of them [idols] out of that place. Ye shall not do so unto the Lord your God?11 — The Name must be ‘blessed’ by the Name, which is absent here. But perhaps the text refers to the putting of two slips of parchment, each bearing the Divine Name, together, and piercing them both? — In that case one Name is pierced after the other.12 But perhaps it prohibits the engraving of the Divine Name on the Point of a knife and piercing therewith [the Divine Name written on a slip of parchment]? — In that case, the point of the knife pierces, not the Divine Name. But perhaps it refers to the pronunciation of the ineffable Name, as it is written, And Moses and Aaron took these men which are expressed [nikkebu]13 by their names;14 the formal prohibition being contained in the verse, Thou shalt fear the Lord thy God?15 — Firstly, the Name must be ‘blessed’ by the Name, which is absent here; and secondly, it is a prohibition in the form of a positive command, which is not deemed to be a prohibition at all.16 An alternative answer is this: The Writ saith, [And the Israelitish woman's son] blasphemed wa-yikkob17 [and cursed],18 proving that blasphemy [nokeb] denotes cursing. But perhaps it teaches that both offences must be perpetrated?19 You cannot think so, because it is written, Bring forth him that hath cursed,20 and not ‘him that hath blasphemed and cursed’, proving that one offence only is alluded to. Our Rabbis taught: [Any man that curseth his God, shall bear his sin.21 It would have been sufficient to say]...


Mark 7:7-9, "But in vain do they worship Me, teaching as doctrine the commandments of men. For laying aside the Law of Yahweh, you hold the tradition of men! Then He said to them: How well you reject the Law of Yahweh, so that you may keep your own tradition!"

 

[Chopper]

Hizikyah is correct in what he has spoken. Already it is seen that the noahide laws are being put into effect across the globe, which includes the punishment of beheading for non-Jews to observe the seventh days sabbath, or speaking the name of Yah.

 

[Hizikyah]

Joel 2:32

"And it will come about that whoever calls on the name of the LORD (3068 Yah-weh, יְהוָ֔ה) Will be delivered; For on Mount Zion and in Jerusalem There will be those who escape, As the LORD (3068 Yah-weh, יְהוָ֔ה) has said, Even among the survivors whom the LORD (3068 Yah-weh, יְהוָ֔ה) calls.


Text Analysis
Str Translit Hebrew English Morph
1961 [e] wə-hā-yāh, וְהָיָ֗ה And it shall come to pass Verb
3605 [e] kōl כֹּ֧ל anyone Noun
834 [e] ’ă-šer- אֲשֶׁר־ who Prt
7121 [e] yiq-rā יִקְרָ֛א [that] shall call Verb
8034 [e] bə-šêm בְּשֵׁ֥ם on the name Noun
3068 [e] Yah-weh יְהוָ֖ה of the LORD Noun
4422 [e] yim-mā-lêṭ; יִמָּלֵ֑ט shall be delivered Verb
3588 [e] kî כִּ֠י for Conj
2022 [e] bə-har- בְּהַר־ on Mount Noun
6726 [e] ṣî-yō-wn צִיּ֨וֹן Zion Noun
3389 [e] ū-ḇî-rū-šā-lim וּבִירוּשָׁלִַ֜ם and in Jerusalem Noun
1961 [e] tih-yeh תִּֽהְיֶ֣ה shall be Verb
6413 [e] p̄ə-lê-ṭāh, פְלֵיטָ֗ה deliverance Noun
834 [e] ka-’ă-šer כַּֽאֲשֶׁר֙ as Prt
559 [e] ’ā-mar אָמַ֣ר has said Verb
3068 [e] Yah-weh, יְהוָ֔ה as the LORD Noun
8300 [e] ū-ḇaś-śə-rî-ḏîm, וּבַ֨שְּׂרִידִ֔ים and in the remnant Noun
834 [e] ’ă-šer אֲשֶׁ֥ר whom Prt
3068 [e] Yah-weh יְהוָ֖ה the LORD Noun
7121 [e] qō-rê. קֹרֵֽא׃ shall call Verb

 

[veryelect]

Sanhedrin putting a man on trial for speaking the Name of Yahweh, from their OWN records:

Talmud - Mas. Sanhedrin 56a
THE WHOLE DAY [OF THE TRIAL] THE WITNESSES ARE EXAMINED BY MEANS OF A SUBSTITUTE FOR THE DIVINE NAME, THUS, ‘MAY JOSE SMITE JOSE.’1 WHEN THE TRIAL WAS FINISHED, THE ACCUSED WAS NOT EXECUTED ON THIS EVIDENCE, BUT ALL PERSONS WERE REMOVED [FROM COURT], AND THE CHIEF WITNESS WAS TOLD, ‘STATE LITERALLY WHAT YOU HEARD. THEREUPON HE DID SO, [USING THE DIVINE NAME]. THE JUDGES THEN AROSE AND RENT THEIR GARMENTS, WHICH RENT WAS NOT TO BE RESEWN. THE SECOND WITNESS STATED; I TOO HAVE HEARD THUS’ [BUT NOT UTTERING THE DIVINE NAME], AND THE THIRD SAYS: ‘I TOO HEARD THUS’. GEMARA. It has been taught: [The blasphemer is not punished] unless he ‘blesses’ the Name, by the Name2 From the verse, How shall I curse [Ekkob]5 whom God hath not cursed;6 whilst the formal prohibition is contained in the verse, thou shalt not revile God.7 But perhaps it means ‘to pierce,’8 as it is written, [So Jehoiada the priest took a chest,] and bored [wa-yikkob]9 a hole in the lid of it,10 the formal injunction against this being the verses, Ye shall destroy the names of them [idols] out of that place. Ye shall not do so unto the Lord your God?11 — The Name must be ‘blessed’ by the Name, which is absent here. But perhaps the text refers to the putting of two slips of parchment, each bearing the Divine Name, together, and piercing them both? — In that case one Name is pierced after the other.12 But perhaps it prohibits the engraving of the Divine Name on the Point of a knife and piercing therewith [the Divine Name written on a slip of parchment]? — In that case, the point of the knife pierces, not the Divine Name. But perhaps it refers to the pronunciation of the ineffable Name, as it is written, And Moses and Aaron took these men which are expressed [nikkebu]13 by their names;14 the formal prohibition being contained in the verse, Thou shalt fear the Lord thy God?15 — Firstly, the Name must be ‘blessed’ by the Name, which is absent here; and secondly, it is a prohibition in the form of a positive command, which is not deemed to be a prohibition at all.16 An alternative answer is this: The Writ saith, [And the Israelitish woman's son] blasphemed wa-yikkob17 [and cursed],18 proving that blasphemy [nokeb] denotes cursing. But perhaps it teaches that both offences must be perpetrated?19 You cannot think so, because it is written, Bring forth him that hath cursed,20 and not ‘him that hath blasphemed and cursed’, proving that one offence only is alluded to. Our Rabbis taught: [Any man that curseth his God, shall bear his sin.21 It would have been sufficient to say]...


Mark 7:7-9, "But in vain do they worship Me, teaching as doctrine the commandments of men. For laying aside the Law of Yahweh, you hold the tradition of men! Then He said to them: How well you reject the Law of Yahweh, so that you may keep your own tradition!"

They used one of Ten Commandments to try and keep people from saying HIS Name. The Commandment was not to take the Name of The LORD thy GOD in vain.
GOD actually told them not to say the names of the other false gods.

But GOD told everyone plainly:

Joe 2:32 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call.

HIS NAME is YAHAVEH, which means 'I AM THAT I AM'!

H3068
יהוה
yehôvâh
yeh-ho-vaw'
From H1961; (the) self Existent or eternal; Jehovah, Jewish national name of God: - Jehovah, the Lord. Compare H3050, H3069.

 

[Hizikyah]

They used one of Ten Commandments to try and keep people from saying HIS Name. The Commandment was not to take the Name of The LORD thy GOD in vain.
GOD actually told them not to say the names of the other false gods.

Will you look this over?

Exodus 20:7, "You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain, for the LORD will not leave him unpunished who takes His name in vain." NASB

The word vain is the Hebrew word shav meaning: emptiness, vanity. Is it possible that removing Yahweh's name and replacing it with "the Lord" is making it empty?

Exodus 20:7, ""You shall not take the name of Yahweh your God in vain, for Yahweh will not hold him guiltless who takes his name in vain." WEB

Exodus 20:7, "You shall not take the Name of Yahweh your strength to bring it to nothing, for Yahweh will not hold him guiltless who brings it to nothing."

7723 - shav
shav: emptiness, vanity - Original Word: שָׁוְא - Part of Speech: Noun Masculine - Transliteration: shav - Phonetic Spelling: (shawv) - Short Definition: vain

7723 - shav
NAS Exhaustive Concordance - Word Origin from an unused word - Definition: emptiness, vanity

7723 - shav
Brown-Driver-Briggs שָׁוְא noun [masculine] emptiness, vanity

7723 - shav
Hebrew Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar)
1) emptiness, vanity, falsehood - 1a) emptiness, nothingness, vanity - 1b) emptiness of speech, lying - 1c) worthlessness (of conduct)

But GOD told everyone plainly:

Joe 2:32 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call.

HIS NAME is YAHAVEH, which means 'I AM THAT I AM'!

H3068
יהוה
yehôvâh
yeh-ho-vaw'
From H1961; (the) self Existent or eternal; Jehovah, Jewish national name of God: - Jehovah, the Lord. Compare H3050, H3069.

praise Yahweh!

 

[MaranathaSoonQuick]

LOLOLOL!!! That's hilarious!
Thanks, I really needed a good laugh!
Here's a clue for you, the name Jesus did not even exist until about 400 years ago, and misses the mark by a little over 1800 years, not to mention the fact name is not a Hebrew name.

negatory, Jesus was translated from greek not hebrew, rendered from hebrew to english would be joshua or like many say yeshua... and if the name Jesus was used in the 1611 version of the kjv or even 1599 geneva then I'd say it's over 400 yrs old (not really[edit]). and it doesn't even say many will come saying hey I'm Jesus, they will claim to be the Christ/Messiah.

 

[veryelect]

Will you look this over?

Exodus 20:7, "You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain, for the LORD will not leave him unpunished who takes His name in vain." NASB

The word vain is the Hebrew word shav meaning: emptiness, vanity. Is it possible that removing Yahweh's name and replacing it with "the Lord" is making it empty?

Exodus 20:7, ""You shall not take the name of Yahweh your God in vain, for Yahweh will not hold him guiltless who takes his name in vain." WEB

Exodus 20:7, "You shall not take the Name of Yahweh your strength to bring it to nothing, for Yahweh will not hold him guiltless who brings it to nothing."

7723 - shav
shav: emptiness, vanity - Original Word: שָׁוְא - Part of Speech: Noun Masculine - Transliteration: shav - Phonetic Spelling: (shawv) - Short Definition: vain

7723 - shav
NAS Exhaustive Concordance - Word Origin from an unused word - Definition: emptiness, vanity

7723 - shav
Brown-Driver-Briggs שָׁוְא noun [masculine] emptiness, vanity

7723 - shav
Hebrew Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar)
1) emptiness, vanity, falsehood - 1a) emptiness, nothingness, vanity - 1b) emptiness of speech, lying - 1c) worthlessness (of conduct)




praise Yahweh!

YES! You are right! I think that not only replacing HIS Name is a vain thing to do, but using it in a vain way is also not good!

 

[MaranathaSoonQuick]

Angela, do you believe in the trinity, the word doesn't come up in the bible.

 

[veryelect]

negatory, Jesus was translated from greek not hebrew, rendered from hebrew to english would be joshua or like many say yeshua... and if the name Jesus was used in the 1611 version of the kjv or even 1599 geneva then I'd say it's over 400 yrs old (not really[edit]). and it doesn't even say many will come saying hey I'm Jesus, they will claim to be the Christ/Messiah.

I don't see the 'Like' button for this post, so.... 'LIKE'

 

[Hizikyah]

negatory, Jesus was translated from greek not hebrew, rendered from hebrew to english would be joshua or like many say yeshua... and if the name Jesus was used in the 1611 version of the kjv or even 1599 geneva then I'd say it's over 400 yrs old (not really[edit]). and it doesn't even say many will come saying hey I'm Jesus, they will claim to be the Christ/Messiah.

Online Etymology Dictionary

J the letter is a late modification of Roman -i-, originally a scribal creation in continental Medieval Latin to distinguish small -i- in cursive writing from the strokes of other letters, especially in the final positions of words. But in English, -y- was used for this, and -j- was introduced c.1600-1640 to take up the consonantal sound that had evolved from -i- since Late Latin times. This usage first was attested in Spanish, where it was in place before 1600. English dictionaries continued to lump together words beginning in -i- and -j- until 19c., and -j- formerly was skipped when letters were used to express serial order.

Online Etymology Dictionary

 

[Chopper]

negatory, Jesus was translated from greek not hebrew, rendered from hebrew to english would be joshua or like many say yeshua... and if the name Jesus was used in the 1611 version of the kjv or even 1599 geneva then I'd say it's over 400 yrs old. and it doesn't even say many will come saying hey I'm Jesus, they will claim to be the Christ/Messiah.

Key words in your statement "Jesus was translated from greek not hebrew" which is precisely what I said elsewhere. The Greek name has no direct relation to the Hebrew name of Yah, and as a matter-of-fact, the name it was translated from, Iesous is in reference to the Greek god named Zeus.

When you look at the KJV 1611, you will not find the name Jesus anywhere in it, because the letter J had not yet been adopted. In fact, the Name King James is not even spelled as such in that version because of this.
It is spelled IAMES, and uses the Greek name IESVS in place of the Hebrew name Yashua, or Yahushua.

 

[MaranathaSoonQuick]

I don't agree with the zeus part, I believe the iesous part was from hebrew-greek. and then Jesus from greek-english. Idk where zeus fits in?

 

[Chopper]

Look up the name iesous and see what it refers to.