What is your view of Hell and the Lake of Fire? Is it Loving?

[Jason0047]

Interesting...Christians are resurrected with a body like unto Christ's resurrected body. Unbelievers are resurrected unto eternal condemnation they receive a body fitted for destruction. They will have their old wretched body and will burn in the fire and not be consumed.

Man has no grounds upon which to judge God as to fairness or justness of Gods decisions. God is the Creator not the creation. God has the authority to do as He pleases.

All men have the opportunity to receive of the goodness of God. If they choose the pleasures of sin for a season they rightly will suffer the eternal condemnation that goes with it. God said that they will choose to continue in sin even though they know the penalty of their sin.

Seems the height of foolishness to endeavor to judge God.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

Again, it's not a matter of judging God. It is a matter of knowing what God would do in any given situation because God is love and God is good. For Abraham asked, shall not the Judge of the Earth do right? Did God judge fairly in that situation? You betcha! And God still is fair and good in His Judgments. I don't need a Bible to tell me what is fair and just. You don't either. Yet folks are saying it is like some BIG mystery that we cannot know God's justice and goodness on this matter. We are supposed to believe some flawed interpretation of Scripture because that is what everyone teaches. Sorry. Truth is not determined by a popularity contest. God's Word is the standard and we can explain the truths within it easily and simpy using real world examples. For Jesus Christ did it all the time.

 

[Jason0047]

I don't believe God tortures people beyond what the crime calls for. That is the difference. You are imposing your justice on God and saying He needs to match up to it. Could it be we have such a low view of the severity of sin? Could that maybe be the case?

Alright. Break it down for me. The Bible says life is a vapor. How can someone who creates a finite amount of crimes or sins against God if their life is a vapor to God? How can a limited amount of crimes (even really horrible ones) call for a sentence that demands torture for an endless period of time when their life is but a vapor? Has God ever tortured other enemies in the Bible for long periods of time elswhere in the Scriptures?

 

[JDecree]

How can someone who creates a finite amount of crimes or sins against God if their life is a vapor to God? How can a limited amount of crimes (even really horrible ones) call for a sentence that demands torture for an endless period of time when their life is but a vapor?

Because God says so. It is just because He is doing it. He is just. Therefore everything He does is just. How we feel doesn't enter into it.

 

[Jason0047]

Are folks aware that the KJV was written in Old English? That words such as "ever" could also mean a "life time"? Look up the Etymology of the word "ever" if you don't believe me. Look up the Greek word "aion" for "ever" (in relation to "for ever and ever" in Revelation 14). Matthew 24:3 says "aion" can be translated as the English word "world." So when the disciples asked Jesus about the end of the world (i.e. aion or age), they were not speaking about the end of everlasting.

 

[dcontroversal]

That is Scriptural;

Malakyah 4:1-4,"For, behold, the day comes that will burn like an oven; and all the proud, yes, and all who do wickedly, will be stubble--the day that comes will burn them up, says Yahweh of hosts; and it will leave them neither root nor branch. But for you who reverence My Name, the light of righteousness will arise with healing in its wings; and you will go out, leaping like calves released from the stall. And you will tread down the wicked; for they will be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I will do this, says Yahweh of hosts. Remember the Law of Mosheh My servant, which I commanded through him in Horeb for all Israyl, with the statutes and judgments."

Malakyah 3:16, "Then those who reverenced Yahweh spoke often one to another, and Yahweh paid attention and heard them; and a Book of Remembrance was written in His presence of those who gave reverence to Yahweh, and who thought upon, His Name."

Except for the fact that it is talking about the destruction of their physical bodies at the end of the age.....1000 years later they will be given a body that can suffer eternally.....called the 2nd DEATH...you know the one talked about in the N.T. ..............! Revelation speaks to this...why not study it and come to a deeper understanding of truth!

 

[Jason0047]

Because God says so. It is just because He is doing it. He is just. Therefore everything He does is just. How we feel doesn't enter into it.

That is very dangerous way of thinking. Not knowing what is truly good or evil. People do all sorts of bad things in the name of God. Doesn't make it right. The Westboro Baptist church deceives people into hating others (Instead of loving them). Jim Jones was able to convince people to kill themselves. He blinded these people into turning off their moral compasses. Do you believe God directly creates evil according to Isaiah? This is where it starts for some people. Thinking God can create evil. In other words, if you don't know what God will do in any given situation morally, then I fear for you, my friend. I know God will always do what is good and loving. I can explain His love and goodness to people. It's not a mystery to me.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Are folks aware that the KJV was written in Old English? That words such as "ever" could also mean a "life time"? Look up the Etymology of the word "ever" if you don't believe me. Look up the Greek word "aion" for "ever" (in relation to "for ever and ever" in Revelation 14). Matthew 24:3 says "aion" can be translated as the English word "world." So when the disciples asked Jesus about the end of the world (i.e. aion or age), they were not speaking about the end of everlasting.

aion aoin (spoken twice) means age after age.

it means it is not one age, it means all ages.. forever.

why do you want torment to end, are you afraid you will go there? do you want an out?

 

[Jason0047]

That is very dangerous way of thinking. Not knowing what is truly good or evil. People do all sorts of bad things in the name of God. Doesn't make it right. The Westboro Baptist church deceives people into hating others (Instead of loving them). Jim Jones was able to convince people to kill themselves. He blinded these people into turning off their moral compasses. Do you believe God directly creates evil according to Isaiah? This is where it starts for some people. Thinking God can create evil. In other words, if you don't know what God will do in any given situation morally, then I fear for you, my friend. I know God will always do what is good and loving. I can explain His love and goodness to people. It's not a mystery to me.

Side Note:

When I say I fear for you, I am not questioning your salvation. I am saying that if you believe we cannot know what is truly good or right, then we can fall prety to false deceptions by others. God talks to our hearts with His Word and lets us know what is good and right.

 

[JDecree]

That is very dangerous way of thinking. Not knowing what is truly good or evil. People do all sorts of bad things in the name of God. Doesn't make it right. The Westboro Baptist church deceives people into hating others (Instead of loving them). Jim Jones was able to convince people to kill themselves. He blinded these people into turning off their moral compasses. Do you believe God directly creates evil according to Isaiah? This is where it starts for some people. Thinking God can create evil. In other words, if you don't know what God will do in any given situation morally, then I fear for you, my friend. I know God will always do what is good and loving. I can explain His love and goodness to people. It's not a mystery to me.

There are so many strange assertions in this quote I can't even respond...everything from Jim Jones to accusations of a false conversion to who knows what.

My point in everything I have posted is BE CAREFUL what you call God. You may come to learn that the majority of Christianity actually has the concept of Hell right and you will need to do some repenting. Be OPEN to the possibility that you are wrong. If I am wrong, I haven't called God a monster.

EDIT: seen your correction, fair enough

 

[Jason0047]

aion aoin (spoken twice) means age after age.

it means it is not one age, it means all ages.. forever.

why do you want torment to end, are you afraid you will go there? do you want an out?

Doesn't Revelation 14 tell us that people will be tormented forever?

First let's look at what the text actually says...Revelation 14:10-11 is about a specific group of people at "the end times." It is about people who take the mark of the beast during what many call The Great Tribulation. John tells us of the day they meet God–Judgment Day.

The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: (Revelation 14:10-11)


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It is very important to notice where they are. They are "in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb." This is obviously when they are standing before the Great White Throne of God on Judgment Day and cannot be hell. The parable that Jesus tells in Luke 19:27 teaches us that these ones will ultimately be slain, "But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me." Notice, they are eventually slain in the presence of the King, but not before they are tormented by His holiness and their sinfulness. Additionally, this is the same exact word in Greek that Peter uses to talk about how Lot was vexed (tormented) in his soul while seeing the evil deeds done in his hometown. (2 Peter 2:8).

1. If then, the torment with fire, brimstone, and eternal smoke takes place in the presence of the Lamb and holy angels, then it also takes place in the presence of the believers as well (since we will be with the Lord by that time). Think about it. Could you be happy for all eternity witnessing the excruciating fire and torture of hundreds of millions of lost souls? And will they be forever in the presence of Jesus being tormented as the text says, they are "in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb."

2. But what about the word "forever"; doesn't the text say torment will go on forever? No. Read it very carefully. It clearly says "the smoke" will rise forever. Smoke rising forever is much different than torment going on forever. John is using the biblical expression of "smoke rising" to describe how people then remembered an important incident. Today we take pictures and video of our enemies being bombed and their city set on fire and play it over and over a hundred times, but back then the enemies of God were destroyed and it was over. There was no video to review over and over again back then. The preservation of smoke was the only way for them to remember the great event. Look how John speaks of Babylon's destruction, "And again they said, Alleluia. And her smoke rose up forever and ever." (Revelation 19:3) One day Babylon will be destroyed and even in heaven we will never forget God's destruction of that city. That is what is meant by smoke rising forever. The same thing happened to Sodom and Gomorrah, "And he looked toward Sodom and Gomorrah, and toward all the land of the plain, and beheld, and, lo, the smoke of the country went up as the smoke of a furnace." (Genesis 19:28).

3. It is not proper hermeneutics to view the scripture in Revelation 14:10 apart from how the other biblical writers use it. And they do not use it of eternal torment. Again, look how Isaiah uses the exact same wording about the city of Edom being destroyed, "the smoke thereof shall go up forever: from generation to generation it shall lie waste; none shall pass through it for ever and ever." (Isaiah 34:10). Edom was destroyed and the smoke rising forever was meant as a remembrance statement. Obviously, there is no smoke today still rising from the location of Edom. It is figurative language denoting that God's work of their destruction will "never be forgotten."




Source:
Believe What the Jewish Apostles Taught -- Why Conditional Immortality Is True and Biblical
(Note: I believe in the Conditional View of the Lake of Fire within this Article. I do not hold to their view of soul sleep and or in their view of Lazarus and Richman).​

 

[Word_Swordsman]

No. Believers will actually physically live again in new resurrected bodies. They have physical life and spiritual life. They have everlasting life (both spiritually and physically) that is found only in Jesus Christ (1 John 5:12). Unbelievers die which is a contrast to the physical. They will die in the second death. They have no life physically or spiritually. God always destroyed his enemies in the past. He never kept any of them alive to torture them for long periods of time.

Well, we're half in agreement (in blue).

The unbelievers that have died will be resurrected, and they will be alive to face the Judgment. They will then follow the Devil into the everlasting fire, tormented forever. Spiritual death has already begun for unbelievers. You and I suffered it until Christ in us.

So, why make it so easy on people that choose death unto the Second Death?

I guess we've come full circle to Mark 9:43-44 (KJV)
[SUP]43 [/SUP] And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
[SUP]44 [/SUP] Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.

Jesus repeated that twice, so it wasn't a slip of the tongue. He was speaking of
Isaiah 66:23-24 (KJV)
[SUP]23 [/SUP] And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.
[SUP]24 [/SUP] And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.

If everything is burned up, what's to abhor? "Their" fire is not quenched. After God makes the new heavens and new earth (v. 22, and 65:17), after the Judgment, when going to worship in that wonderful period we'll all pass by the portal to gaze upon those cast into the fire. They will still be there....for ever.

Now that brings up a whole other topic, the "fire", and "salt" in relation to it, and some other details. But we need to get through the milk before taking on meat.

 

[ColinCat]

The great hope of an atheist must be finishing as a heap of ashes..

Er... No.

You make it sound like the atheist knows he's going to hell and is hoping for the best possible outcome.

That's not how it is at all. I have no fear of hell. None whatsoever.

 

[Word_Swordsman]

Doesn't Revelation 14 tell us that people will be tormented forever?

Source:
Believe What the Jewish Apostles Taught -- Why Conditional Immortality Is True and Biblical
(Note: I believe in the Conditional View of the Lake of Fire within this Article. I do not hold to their view of soul sleep and or in their view of Lazarus and Richman).​

My source is the Bible. That site starts off linking the traditional view to error from Platonic philosophy. That is false teaching from the get-go, the seed of destruction of their doctrines.

To hold to that belief you would have to say Jesus was a fan of Plato. Peter, the fisherman, was a fan of Plato? Paul was a fan? James? Jews that were inspired of God to write what they wrote? How much did God allow from Plato to let very simply worded scriptures to be so wrongly interpreted for millennia until some modern men decided the Church has been wrong? That concept is what birthed the Jehovah's Witness to reject Jesus, invent their own way and their own scriptures.

Oh, well, back to Isaiah for me right now. Jesus admired his writings, quoted him often.

 

[Word_Swordsman]

Maybe then you are a Christian and don't know it yet. You've been "exposed" to what is necessary to have in you, and keep coming back for more. Good!

 

[Jason0047]

There are so many strange assertions in this quote I can't even respond...everything from Jim Jones

I mentioned Jim Jones because when you say you cannot know the Judgments or morality of God then how are we to know what is good and right when it comes to our very own lives when confronted with spiritual deception by others? Now, I am not trying to say you are going to be deceived by a Jim Jones cult. But my point is that we (as believers) can know what is good and right. The point I am making is that those people who were being deceived by Jim Jones had a right to question Jim Jone's actions. They had a right to question his claims in committing suicide for God (without question). There was no good reason why those people had to die. We both know that such a thing is wrong because our moral compass tells us it is wrong. But when a person is caught up in something false, or when folks hold to a false belief, sometimes they can't see it.

My point in everything I have posted is BE CAREFUL what you call God.

I can say the same for you, my dear friend. I can say you better be careful in labeling God as punishing people for all eternity, when the Scriptures do not explicitly really say that. I believe God's love is being being ignored and assumptions are made off the certain verses to defend a false doctrine.

You may come to learn that the majority of Christianity actually has the concept of Hell right and you will need to do some repenting. Be OPEN to the possibility that you are wrong. If I am wrong, I haven't called God a monster.

I haven't called God of the Bible a monster, either. I have no problem with my reading of the Bible about God. It is your version I have trouble with. For I have called ECT's false view of God who tortures people eternally as being unfair and or unjust. For if the ECT proponent is wrong (and I know they are), then God is not going to be exactly happy with the false way they have been thinking about Him (Making God out to be unfair in His Judgments). For if what you say is true, then you should have had no trouble explaining God's Judgments of punishing people eternally as being a loving thing.

In other words, where in the Bible does it say we cannot question immoral behavior?

EDIT: seen your correction, fair enough

Anyways, may God bless you and may His love shine upon you greatly (Despite or differences on this topic). I just pray that you ask God about where I am coming from (Jeremiah 33:3).

 

[Jason0047]

Well, we're half in agreement (in blue).

The unbelievers that have died will be resurrected, and they will be alive to face the Judgment. They will then follow the Devil into the everlasting fire, tormented forever. Spiritual death has already begun for unbelievers. You and I suffered it until Christ in us.

When somebody is dead spiritually, that means their spirit was cut off and dead from God. They need to have a new regenerated spirit. They need to be born again. They need to have a new spirit. They need new life in Jesus Christ.

So, why make it so easy on people that choose death unto the Second Death?

You can't call it the Second Death because no actual Death is involved.

I guess we've come full circle to Mark 9:43-44 (KJV)
[SUP]43 [/SUP] And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
[SUP]44 [/SUP] Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.

Jesus repeated that twice, so it wasn't a slip of the tongue. He was speaking of
Isaiah 66:23-24 (KJV)
[SUP]23 [/SUP] And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.
[SUP]24 [/SUP] And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.

If everything is burned up, what's to abhor? "Their" fire is not quenched. After God makes the new heavens and new earth (v. 22, and 65:17), after the Judgment, when going to worship in that wonderful period we'll all pass by the portal to gaze upon those cast into the fire. They will still be there....for ever.

Isaiah 66:24 states "And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcasses of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh."

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Yes, Jesus quotes this passage verbatim in Mark 9:48. Therefore, it is a clear statement about Gehenna (hell) and must be looked at in it's context. (Jesus would have known it in context and so should we.) Also, the word "Gehenna" is what Jesus used whenever he spoke of "hell" –and that was the name of the garbage dump in Jerusalem! So His listeners would not have understood Jesus as speaking of eternal torment here. Gehenna was a place where worms and fires lived, but not people! Now back to Isaiah 66:24.In this verse we have believers, ("they" in verse 24), going out to look upon the very place tradition tells us we will never see. Isaiah clearly states that we will see those in Gehenna. He cannot state it more clearly in verse 24, "And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcasses."

In other words, we believers, will look upon dead bodies in Gehenna (Did you ever consider that?); And what will be seen? Isaiah makes it clear, we will see "carcasses" (Hebrew: pegerim = dead bodies). This is at the point in time when all in Gehenna (hell) have already died in "body and soul" (Matthew 10:28). Then we will be permitted to view them. They will be ashes by this time (Malachi 4:3)-cremated.

Source used:
Believe What the Jewish Apostles Taught -- Why Conditional Immortality Is True and Biblical
(Note: Again, I agree with theur view that the Lake of Fire is Conditional, but I do not agree with their view on soul sleep or that the Richman and Lazarus story is a parable).

 

[JDecree]

I mentioned Jim Jones because when you say you cannot know the Judgments or morality of God

I never said that and I gave a perfectly good reason why eternal torment is "fair."

I can say you better be careful in labeling God as punishing people for all eternity, when the Scriptures do not explicitly really say that.

In your opinion the scriptures don't explicitly really say that. Mine says different. Let's argue in circles about it and never change each other's mind!

I haven't called God of the Bible a monster, either.

Depending on who is right, you certainly may have dude.

I have no problem with my reading of the Bible about God. It is your version I have trouble with.

I know. Many struggle with it.

then God is not going to be exactly happy with the false way they have been thinking about Him

There is nothing I can do to the contrary then because the bible says what it says and I choose to take the view that requires the least amount of redefining terms, no matter how it may be hard to swallow. Why is it hard to receive? We don't view rebellion and transgression like God does.

For if what you say is true, then you should have had no trouble explaining God's Judgments of punishing people eternally as being a loving thing.

Again(3rd time now) had no trouble explaining God's Judgments(does He need me to defend Him? Ha!). It was either ignored or deemed insufficient. Others who share my view have done a fine job as well.

In other words, where in the Bible does it say we cannot question immoral behavior?

This must be some kind of fallacy(straw man? Dunno). We certainly can question immoral behavior and I do. But God punishing people forever who hate Him, hurt Him and others their entire life and spit in His face when He offered His life for them is not immoral in my opinion.

Anyways, may God bless you and may His love shine upon you greatly (Despite or differences on this topic). I just pray that you ask God about where I am coming from (Jeremiah 33:3).

You too brother. I've said all I care to say on the subject. I feel like this topic and many like it are so fruitless to debate.

God bless you

 

[Butch5]

The position I hold is known as conditional immortality. It holds that man is a physical being and is not immortal in and of himself. When man dies he is dead and remains in the grave until the resurrection. The position also holds that the the righteous will receive eternal life and the wicked will be cast into the lake of fire and burned up. They will not suffer in the flames forever.

 

[Jason0047]

I never said that and I gave a perfectly good reason why eternal torment is "fair."

I must have missed it.

In your opinion the scriptures don't explicitly really say that. Mine says different. Let's argue in circles about it and never change each other's mind!

My mind was changed on this topic by another while talking on a forum.

Depending on who is right, you certainly may have

Let's say for the sake of argument on some off chance that God does punish people eternally. It is not wrong for me to question what I know to be wrong. God cannot condemn me for what I know to be true and right. I know it is wrong for a person to punish another beyond what their crime calls for. Seeing God is Holy and righteous, how much better is God? My point is that if there was a slim chance you are right (Which is not the case), then God would see that I am condeming an action based on the available evidence I have in the real world about what I know to be right and wrong. In other words, I know God would never want me to get drunk and have intimate relations with many women. I don't need a Bible to know that such a thing is wrong. For I can see the fruits (or the results) that such a thing is wrong. It is the same with someone who punishes another in such an extreme way that goes beyond their crime(s). In other words, God is not going to fault me for defending that which I know to be good. For God is good.

dude.

Please do not call me dude.

I know. Many struggle with it.

Not only do they struggle with it, but they can't explain the goodness of it, either. I know. I tried to defend ECT when I used to believe in it. It was a hollow pursuit. The excuses are shallow. Trust me. I really tried to find good reasons for it. But they do not exist.

There is nothing I can do to the contrary then because the bible says what it says and I choose to take the view that requires the least amount of redefining terms, no matter how it may be hard to swallow. Why is it hard to receive? We don't view rebellion and transgression like God does.

Actually, when I was on the fence between ECT and Conditionalism, I created a chart that shows that the ECT view spiritualizes Scripture more than the Conditional View on Gehenna. Words that talk about destructtion, destroy, perish, ashes, burned up, and death, etc.

Again(3rd time now) had no trouble explaining God's Judgments(does He need me to defend Him? Ha!). It was either ignored or deemed insufficient. Others who share my view have done a fine job as well.

I know all the hollow excuses in trying to defend ECT. Some of the ones I thought used to be good were not even mentioned here.

This must be some kind of fallacy(straw man? Dunno). We certainly can question immoral behavior and I do. But God punishing people forever who hate Him, hurt Him and others their entire life and spit in His face when He offered His life for them is not immoral in my opinion.

Yes, unbelievers rejection of Jesus Christ (Who died for Him) is horrible. But Jesus showed His love for even those who were crucifying Him when He said to the Father to forgive them, for they know not what they do. That is God. The love of God. Even in their rejection of Him. God loved them. For God is love. So if we are to believe in your version of God, then where was this vengeful Jesus during the time of when He was on the cross?

In other words, it would be like a person torturing one of their old best friends forever just because one day they decided to do something bad torwards them one day. Yes, God deserves worship. Yes, God deserves love because He died for us. But God also sends rain on the just and the unjust. God is fair and good in His Judgments.

You too brother. I've said all I care to say on the subject. I feel like this topic and many like it are so fruitless to debate.

God bless you

My mind was changed from ECT to Conditionalism because of these types of debates. So no. They are not unfruitful, my friend.

In any event, peace be with you from the Lord Jesus Christ.

 

[Jason0047]

My source is the Bible. That site starts off linking the traditional view to error from Platonic philosophy. That is false teaching from the get-go, the seed of destruction of their doctrines.

To hold to that belief you would have to say Jesus was a fan of Plato. Peter, the fisherman, was a fan of Plato? Paul was a fan? James? Jews that were inspired of God to write what they wrote? How much did God allow from Plato to let very simply worded scriptures to be so wrongly interpreted for millennia until some modern men decided the Church has been wrong? That concept is what birthed the Jehovah's Witness to reject Jesus, invent their own way and their own scriptures.

Oh, well, back to Isaiah for me right now. Jesus admired his writings, quoted him often.

Well, first, Scripture says the wicked will be destroyed.

• Matthew 10:28-Rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
• James 4:12-There is one lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy.
• Philippians 3:19-Whose end is destruction.
• 2 Thessalonians 1:9-Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction.
• Hebrews 10:39-But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition. (Greek: destruction)

Second, Scripture clearly states that Adam and Eve lost the chance at immortality in their natural state.

"And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live forever:" (Genesis 3:22)

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In other words, if Adam and Eve would have eaten of the tree of life in their sinful state–that would have been a disaster. They would then have immortality ("live forever") in their sinful state. Therefore, God put a guard there to make sure they would not become immortal in this state.

"So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life." (Genesis 3:24).

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It is clear as a bell that God did not want them to live forever as sinners. He specifically stopped it from happening by placing angels and a flaming sword there to block the way. It is only by believing in Yeshua (Jesus) that mankind has another chance at immortality.

"...and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel..." (2 Timothy 1:10).

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It will be on Resurrection day that believers only will put on immortality.

"...this mortal must put on immortality." (1 Corinthians 15:53).

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"I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live forever." John 6:51.

"To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:" (Romans 2:7)

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~ "I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly." (John 10:10) ~​

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Source:
Believe What the Jewish Apostles Taught -- Why Conditional Immortality Is True and Biblical
(Note: Not all views or believes expressed by this author are a reflection of my own; Especially their false belief on soul sleep; However, their teaching on the Conditional View of Hell is correct, though).​