Once a person is sealed by the Holy Spirit, can this seal be broken?

[newbirth]

Ephesians 1:13
In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

It is not that type of seal ...the HS is not a wrapper...the HS is the mark of ownership that God put in his sons....it is as a deposit or down payment keeping us for when He returns to receive those who endure to the end....those who turn back /depart from the faith /do not endure to the end are not worthy of the kingdom....
Luke 9:62

And Jesus said unto him, No man, having put his hand to the plough, and looking back, is fit for the kingdom of God.

 

[peacefulbeliever]

When was Jesus glorified ?

When he ascended - And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight. Acts 1:9

Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Spirit he hath shed forth this, which you now see and hear. . . . Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus whom you have crucified both Lord and Christ. Acts 2:33,36

 

[ChristIsGod]

Regarding another thread, by Stephen63, The Lord reminded me of this verse but I didn't feel I needed to post it there but do feel it may be timely here --

Daniel 11:35 And some of them of understanding shall fall, to try them, and to purge, and to make them white, even to the time of the end: because it is yet for a time appointed.


The Elect [according to the foreknowledge of God] would never use this verse to sin or fall for a while and the elect [according to the foreknowledge of God] will read this and fear the Lord all the more and pray "lead us not 'through or by' temptation but deliver us from any evil [doing]. I pray that a lot. Need to.

 

[justin777]

I had received God at a young age in my later years I asked many demons to possess me but I never got possessed...
In addition to that regardless of what I did the backlash with minimal.

 

[ELECT]

I had received God at a young age in my later years I asked many demons to possess me but I never got possessed...
In addition to that regardless of what I did the backlash with minimal.

 

[ELECT]

It is not that type of seal ...the HS is not a wrapper...the HS is the mark of ownership that God put in his sons....it is as a deposit or down payment keeping us for when He returns to receive those who endure to the end....those who turn back /depart from the faith /do not endure to the end are not worthy of the kingdom....
Luke 9:62

And Jesus said unto him, No man, having put his hand to the plough, and looking back, is fit for the kingdom of God.

So the seal was broken because they depart ??

 

[ELECT]

When he ascended - And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight. Acts 1:9

Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Spirit he hath shed forth this, which you now see and hear. . . . Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus whom you have crucified both Lord and Christ. Acts 2:33,36

What does this mean ?
John 20:22-23King James Version (KJV)

22 And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:
23 Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained.

 

[peacefulbeliever]

What does this mean ?
John 20:22-23King James Version (KJV)

22 And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:
23 Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained.

I believe he was teaching them how to receive the holy Spirit for the coming day of Pentecost when the outpouring was initiated. "And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind and it filled all the house where they were sitting." Acts 2:2

wind: Greek word - pnoe - 1) breath, breath of life 2) wind; from the root word pneo - to breathe, to blow A. of the wind

I can not say that they received the Holy Spirit right then in john 20:22,23 because of what John 7:38,39 says.

 

[newbirth]

So the seal was broken because they depart ??

it is not that type of seal....you go to the store you buy a crate of apples you put you stamp on each of them with a gold stamp and tell the storekeeper you will pick them up the following week.....when you take them home they are all there with the stamp...but some are rotted what do you do? take off your stamp and throw the rotted apples

 

[newbirth]

I had received God at a young age in my later years I asked many demons to possess me but I never got possessed...
In addition to that regardless of what I did the backlash with minimal.

why would you do such a thing???

 

[ELECT]

it is not that type of seal....you go to the store you buy a crate of apples you put you stamp on each of them with a gold stamp and tell the storekeeper you will pick them up the following week.....when you take them home they are all there with the stamp...but some are rotted what do you do? take off your stamp and throw the rotted apples

to be seal by God is a ongoing process ?

 

[JonahLynx]

In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, who is the guarantee of our inheritance until we acquire possession of it, to the praise of his glory. (Eph. 1:13-14)

And it is God who establishes us with you in Christ, and has anointed us, and who has also put his seal on us and given us his Spirit in our hearts as a guarantee. (2 Cor. 1:21-22)

The language here suggests to me that a "seal" in this sense should be thought of in executive/legal terms. Seals were used throughout history as a formal signature or badge which testified to a document or material's official authenticity. They were particularly used to finalize a law or issue orders. Any agreement or decision with the seal of a king or government is confirmed irrevocably (for example, Ahasuerus's seal in Esther). The only relevant sense in which this type of seal can be "broken" is when the physical document is opened by the recipient.

Therefore, from the above passages we should draw the conclusion that the Holy Spirit represents God's (The King of Kings) seal. He is the ultimate evidence of the Lord's signature/ownership of the marked individual. God specifically illustrates His divine authority by placing His Seal on believers. Moreover, Paul tells us that this Seal is to be understood as a guarantee of the inheritance - in other words, receiving the Holy Spirit is a promise to the individual himself.

God is not man, that he should lie, or a son of man, that he should change his mind. Has he said, and will he not do it? Or has he spoken, and will he not fulfill it? (Num. 23:19)

I can say with confidence that the promise of the Holy Spirit cannot be broken once the King has imprinted His insignia. In fact, I believe that to claim that His seal can be broken (read: invalidated or revoked) is to charge God with lying and failing to fulfill on a promise.

 

[Kaycie]

I wouldn't use the term broken, but taken away. Yes you can fall fom grace.

 

[breno785au]

If the seal that is sealed could be unsealed then the seal for me would be pretty worn out.

 

[newbirth]

to be seal by God is a ongoing process ?

the HS is not a process...we are sealed with the HS that was promised to us....that is God's mark of ownership one has to live worthy of that mark...it is not a hex that controls you....

 

[newbirth]

I wouldn't use the term broken, but taken away. Yes you can fall fom grace.

God does not take away his spirit...it is a person who choose not follow the spirit and becomes a servant of sin instead of following the spirit...so it is true you can fall from grace.... but grace does not fall...

 

[ELECT]

In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, who is the guarantee of our inheritance until we acquire possession of it, to the praise of his glory. (Eph. 1:13-14)

And it is God who establishes us with you in Christ, and has anointed us, and who has also put his seal on us and given us his Spirit in our hearts as a guarantee. (2 Cor. 1:21-22)

The language here suggests to me that a "seal" in this sense should be thought of in executive/legal terms. Seals were used throughout history as a formal signature or badge which testified to a document or material's official authenticity. They were particularly used to finalize a law or issue orders. Any agreement or decision with the seal of a king or government is confirmed irrevocably (for example, Ahasuerus's seal in Esther). The only relevant sense in which this type of seal can be "broken" is when the physical document is opened by the recipient.

Therefore, from the above passages we should draw the conclusion that the Holy Spirit represents God's (The King of Kings) seal. He is the ultimate evidence of the Lord's signature/ownership of the marked individual. God specifically illustrates His divine authority by placing His Seal on believers. Moreover, Paul tells us that this Seal is to be understood as a guarantee of the inheritance - in other words, receiving the Holy Spirit is a promise to the individual himself.

God is not man, that he should lie, or a son of man, that he should change his mind. Has he said, and will he not do it? Or has he spoken, and will he not fulfill it? (Num. 23:19)

I can say with confidence that the promise of the Holy Spirit cannot be broken once the King has imprinted His insignia. In fact, I believe that to claim that His seal can be broken (read: invalidated or revoked) is to charge God with lying and failing to fulfill on a promise.

Did the servant who hid his talent had the seal still evethough he hid his talent ?

 

[ELECT]

the HS is not a process...we are sealed with the HS that was promised to us....that is God's mark of ownership one has to live worthy of that mark...it is not a hex that controls you....

so what happens if the person fall away What happen to the seal ?

 

[ELECT]

God does not take away his spirit...it is a person who choose not follow the spirit and becomes a servant of sin instead of following the spirit...so it is true you can fall from grace.... but grace does not fall...

Could you provide scripture that God does not take away His Spirit ?

[h=1]Psalm 51:10-12King James Version (KJV)[/h]10 Create in me a clean heart, O God; and renew a right spirit within me.
11 Cast me not away from thy presence; and take not thy holy spirit from me.
12 Restore unto me the joy of thy salvation; and uphold me with thy free spirit.

 

[ELECT]

1 Corinthians 10 King James Version (KJV)

10 Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea;
2 And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;
3 And did all eat the same spiritual meat;
4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.
5 But with many of them God was not well pleased: for they were overthrown in the wilderness.
6 Now these things were our examples, to the intent we should not lust after evil things, as they also lusted.
7 Neither be ye idolaters, as were some of them; as it is written, The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play.
8 Neither let us commit fornication, as some of them committed, and fell in one day three and twenty thousand.
9 Neither let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed of serpents.
10 Neither murmur ye, as some of them also murmured, and were destroyed of the destroyer.
11Now all these things happened unto them for examples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.
12 Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.