Puzzled, Why Not Talk to God About the Sabbath?

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QUOTE THE CHAPTER AND VERSE. HE NEVER REITERATED EVEN ONCE THAT NEW TESTAMENT BELIEVERS WERE TO KEEP THE SABBATH.
Is beastiality wrong ? Why or Why not ?
 
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what was to be taught ?
The pattern was ingrained in us to teach us the times of the Lord. 6 days man was to do his work. The 7th day man is to rest from that work. Man in his literal interpretation of this took it as I can work at my job and take a day of rest saturday. This is not what it meant. In the bible we learn that a "day" with the Lord is as 1000 years. Thus the commandment to rest must be based ON THE LORD'S day!

When Israel was tested in the wilderness, God said that on day 6 He would provide enough to last 2 days. Given that a day is 1000 years, we are NOW living in the day that God provided enough for all to rest from their labors. Not simply taking a day off from the job only to go back the next day, but to end servitude and toil permanently!

We are to discern this by observing that which is around us. Today we have enough to house, clothe and feed 13 billion people! We only have 7 billion. We have 1000's of extra cars, phones, houses, and everything else. Our sabbath was indeed made for us despite the trouble we see. We simply need to partake in it!
 
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VCO could you please answer the question

Is beastiality wrong ? Why or Why not ?
 
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Okayyy VCO you refuse to answer the question anyhow it is wrong why because the bible says so in the OT not mentioned in the NT chew on that
 
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Okayyy VCO you refuse to answer the question anyhow it is wrong why because the bible says so in the OT not mentioned in the NT chew on that
Are you really to be concerned if someone else is having sex with some animal?

All things are lawful, just not profitable.
 
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VCO could you please answer the question

Is beastiality wrong ? Why or Why not ?
Do you really need a law to tell you not to make out with a dog? I think someone this sick needs deliverance from demons by the power of Gods Spirit... more rules no one can keep, is not going to help such a person. Do you really think someone this sick can keep the law?
 
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Are you really to be concerned if someone else is having sex with some animal?

All things are lawful, just not profitable.
Whattttt :confused: it is not lawful what are you talking about it is sin not found in the new that was the point as VCO said the sabbath was not repeated in the new yet we know that the animal sex thing is wrong even though you can,t find it in the new
 
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Do you really need a law to tell you not to make out with a dog? I think someone this sick needs deliverance from demons by the power of Gods Spirit... more rules no one can keep, is not going to help such a person. Do you really think someone this sick can keep the law?
you should read the comment before to get the gest of things and dont just butt in not knowing why the statement was made

Do we need a law to say not to worship idols ?
 
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Whattttt :confused: it is not lawful what are you talking about it is sin not found in the new that was the point as VCO said the sabbath was not repeated in the new yet we know that the animal sex thing is wrong even though you can,t find it in the new
What point do you think that makes?
 
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Do you really need a law to tell you not to make out with a dog? I think someone this sick needs deliverance from demons by the power of Gods Spirit... more rules no one can keep, is not going to help such a person. Do you really think someone this sick can keep the law?
is a thief better than that person ?
 
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you should read the comment before to get the gest of things and dont just butt in not knowing why the statement was made

Do we need a law to say not to worship idols ?
Those who worship Idols need the law...but a Christian needs the Spirit of God and Gods love and grace to overcome the lust of there flesh and covetousness...which is idolatry ...not the law....in fact the law increases the lust to covet! That's its job to make all see the sin that's in them...its not for the believer.
 
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is a thief better than that person ?
lol ...a thief is a person... like the one Jesus saved on the Cross? do your really think your making any biblical point by this sort of vain talk?
 
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Whattttt :confused: it is not lawful what are you talking about it is sin not found in the new that was the point as VCO said the sabbath was not repeated in the new yet we know that the animal sex thing is wrong even though you can,t find it in the new
If someone had sex with their pet, how does that affect you or I??? This is the problem with this present evil world. We're too busy being concerned with what everyone else is doing and not taking care of our own businesses.

Again ALL things are lawful for me though not expedient. All means all! I like women, but if I did decide to have sex with an animal, I know the consequences that are involved with that decision. It's lawful for me to run across a busy highway buck naked and blindfolded too. But just like fondling my dog, that is not very profitable at all.
 
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lol ...a thief is a person... like the one Jesus saved on the Cross? do your really think your making any biblical point by this sort of vain talk?
if you go to post #360 you will get why I ask the question and stop making a fool of thyself
 
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If someone had sex with their pet, how does that affect you or I??? This is the problem with this present evil world. We're too busy being concerned with what everyone else is doing and not taking care of our own businesses.

Again ALL things are lawful for me though not expedient. All means all! I like women, but if I did decide to have sex with an animal, I know the consequences that are involved with that decision. It's lawful for me to run across a busy highway buck naked and blindfolded too. But just like fondling my dog, that is not very profitable at all.
go to post 360 also you seem to misunderstand the purpose of the question
 
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Those who worship Idols need the law...but a Christian needs the Spirit of God and Gods love and grace to overcome the lust of there flesh and covetousness...which is idolatry ...not the law....in fact the law increases the lust to covet! That's its job to make all see the sin that's in them...its not for the believer.
the bible point out sin especially the OT
 
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go to post 360 also you seem to misunderstand the purpose of the question
I understood why you asked the question. But just like beastiality, some men believe Saturday is special, some Sunday, some regard all literal days special, others no particular day. So is it with some who does have sex with animals. All of these literal things however, has its place in the grave! As I stated before, the true sabbath is a rest from all of these things.
 

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Exodus 31:13, "Speak also to the children of Israyl, saying; Surely My Sabbaths you shall keep, for they are a *sign between Me and you throughout your generations, that you may know that I am Yahweh Who sanctifies you, and makes you holy."

*sign=Word #226, Hebrew Dictionary,Strong's Exhaustive Concordance,
meaning mark, token, sign, consent, flag, evidence of consent.

Isayah 56:1-7, "This is what Yahweh says: Keep the judgments, and do justly; for My salvation is near, soon, to come, and My righteousness to be revealed. Blessed is the man who does this, and the son of man who lays hold on it; who keeps the Sabbaths without polluting; defiling, them; and keeps his hand from doing any evil. Do not let the son of the Gentile, who has joined himself to Yahweh, speak, saying; Yahweh has utterly separated me from His people. Nor let the eunuch say; Behold, I am a dry tree. For this is what Yahweh says: To the eunuchs who keep My Sabbaths, and choose those things which please Me, and hold fast to My covenant: I will give to them, in My House, even within My walls, a place and a Name equal to that of sons and of daughters; I will give them the Name of The Everlasting: YAHWEH; which will not be cut off. Also the sons of the Gentile who join themselves to Yahweh, to serve Him, and to love the Name of Yahweh, to be His servants--everyone who keeps the Sabbaths without polluting; defiling, them and who holds fast to My covenant--I will bring them to My holy mountain, and make them joyful in My House of prayer..."

Matt 12:12 "And how much more valuable is a man than a sheep? Therefore, it is Lawful to do righteousness on the Sabbath."
 
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I understood why you asked the question. But just like beastiality, some men believe Saturday is special, some Sunday, some regard all literal days special, others no particular day. So is it with some who does have sex with animals. All of these literal things however, has its place in the grave! As I stated before, the true sabbath is a rest from all of these things.
it matters not what man thinks is speacial to them we are to keep what is special to God

there are gay s that take each other as special is that right with God no sabbath is the 7th day nothing else