A Question on Anger

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When it comes to man, anger is a secondary emotion. It is generally a warning that a boundary has been crossed. A painful feeling precedes anger. Additionally, anger is natural and in and of itself... not wrong. In order to properly deal with the emotion of anger....it is crucial to chase the pain that underlies it and process it....because unprocessed pain always leads to more anger, depression and anxiety.
 
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One thing that bothers me is that anger doesn't rhyme with anything.
 

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Inspector Clouseau once echoed Solomon when he said "There is a time and place for everything, Cato."

Like everything else, there is a time for anger...and there is a time not to be angry.

That is why the wise man is slow to anger.

Three hundred and sixty degrees of Solomon there. I can't help it.
 
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also why you're angry, as
Yeshua said anyone who is angry with their brother without cause is guilty of murder (not accused of murder, but GUILTY of murder).
the only way to be angry without sinning is to only be angry LIKE KING DAVID WAS_ (read the PSALMS) --- be angry at what GOD IS ANGRY AT (that's what "righteous indignation" means - not man's anger, which worketh not righteousness, but God's anger)... oh, don't only be angry, be joyful also, and so on, as GOD IS and GIVES... it's part of , perhaps, self-control which no one has apart from Christ. and few in chruch have because they're never told it is necessary... but that get's away from the OP to another thread perhaps....


The Bible says for you to "be ye angry and sin not , neither give place to the devil.."
So yes you can be angry without it being sin. Its how you act on those feelings of anger that determine if its sinful or not.

  1. Matthew 5:22 But I tell you that anyone who is angry with a brother ...
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    "But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother shall be guilty before
    .... 5:21-26 The Jewish teachers had taught, that nothing except actual murder ...
  2. Matthew 5:21 "You have heard that it was said to the people long ...
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    Whoever murders will answer for it in court.' ... All rash anger is heart murder. .....
    22"But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother shall be guilty ...
  3. Matthew 5:22 But I tell you that anyone who is angry - Online Bible ...
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    I'm telling you that anyone who is so much as angry with a brother or sister is
    guilty of murder. Carelessly call a brother 'idiot!' and you just might find yourself ...
 
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See. :D

I actually do have some serious things to say about anger, but I'll need some time to type it out. I've had deep, suppressed, no-way-to-vent-it-out anger issues in the past and have found some interesting things about it and some odd ways of handling it which may or may not be biblical..
 
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I have a really bad temper. It takes a lot for me to get angry, but when I do, things get really ugly.

It starts out with a lot of little things that irritate me, or hurt my feelings, or seem unfair, and they build up over time until I lose it. It's taken me a long time to learn how to let those things go before they caused an outburst...because no matter how in control I felt, at some point, there would always be an explosion. I've gotten much better about talking to someone about what I'm feeling- as things happen- rather than bottling it up so much, but it's hard. I worry that people will think less of me for feeling what I do, for having these negative emotions. It's sort of silly, it's sort of been like shooting myself in the foot, because in the past when I've kept my mouth shut and later lashed out in a huge, hideous way, THAT is what has hurt my relationships with people. Discussing an issue at the time it occurs has proven difficult, but I've found that people are far more understanding than I've been giving them credit for.

As for righteous anger...for myself, I can't recall any time that my actions or words ever came close to anything that could be called "righteous" while I was angry. I've felt angry on behalf of others who couldn't defend themselves from some injustice, I've been mad at people who do nothing but hurt others, I've gotten upset over unfair situations that nobody seems to care about...but my "righteous anger" has always lead to me doing things I'm not proud of, saying hurtful things instead of actually helping, or else turning the negative emotions inward and self-destructing.

I'm certain that people CAN be angry without sinning, without hurting anyone, without saying things they'll regret. I just haven't mastered that yet...though as I get older, it seems to be getting easier to recognize when I'm about to fly off the handle and slam on the brakes.

Interesting topic, lil :)
 
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Anger is a topic very close to home for me and one that I put A LOT of time and effort into studying. Anger is normal and we have it for our benefit. It serves as a warning for a crossed boundary or a violated core belief.
 

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Anger is a complex emotion, one that I don't really fully understand. When God gets angry, His is always righteous. But what about people? Are people capable of having righteous anger? When people get angry, it's usually not very righteous.

While anger itself might not actually be a sin, we often do sinful things when we are angry. Should we find a better way to channel our anger instead of simply letting all of hades break loose? Can you give some examples of when it's okay to be angry, when it isn't, and possibly how the bible supports your views on anger?


Hope to hear from all of you! This is a very unique topic, and so I'm eager to see everyone's answers on this.

Good thread, lil. :)

I think people can have righteous anger. There are numerous instances in the Bible (both from the OT and the NT) where people had righteous anger. Take the example of Phinehas. He speared an Israelite man who brought a Midianitish woman into the camp (Numbers 25:6-13). As per the law of Moses, he had committed a murder and he should have been put to death. But that did not happen. Instead, not only was the plague stayed, but God also blessed Phinehas and even made a covenant of peace with him and his generations.

Even today, it is possible for people to have righteous anger. But the expression of their anger has to be within the law of the land. They cannot physically assault or murder someone and then justify it as righteous anger. Jesus and Paul laid down the rules for such behaviour - Matthew 18:15, Galatians 6:1 and 1 Timothy 5:20. Today, the only way of expressing our righteous anger is by reprimanding the wrong-doer. It can be done personally or in the presence of 2 or 3 witnesses.

We have to carefully examine all forms of anger and see where it comes from. The only form of anger that is easy to explain is righteous anger. Even an angry parent may or may not be angry for the right reasons. Whatever be the anger, we need to learn to control it. We cannot tongue-lash or physically assault a person. At all times, we as Christians ought to set the example for the world to follow and that also extends to how we express our anger.
 
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With all due respect....anger is easy. Its the emotions that precede it that are complex.
 

lil_christian

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Once again, I'm loving all of these answers. :)
 
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I cannot stress enough that anger is a secondary emotion and one that resides very close to the surface. That's why it is so easily identifiable. Conversely, painful emotions are be much deeper and are often deeply rooted in your distant past and why they are much more difficult to identify and process. Remember...unprocessed pain always leads to one or all of 3 things...anger, depression and or anxiety or various combinations of the 3.
 

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I have a really bad temper. It takes a lot for me to get angry, but when I do, things get really ugly.

It starts out with a lot of little things that irritate me, or hurt my feelings, or seem unfair, and they build up over time until I lose it. It's taken me a long time to learn how to let those things go before they caused an outburst...because no matter how in control I felt, at some point, there would always be an explosion. I've gotten much better about talking to someone about what I'm feeling- as things happen- rather than bottling it up so much, but it's hard. I worry that people will think less of me for feeling what I do, for having these negative emotions. It's sort of silly, it's sort of been like shooting myself in the foot, because in the past when I've kept my mouth shut and later lashed out in a huge, hideous way, THAT is what has hurt my relationships with people. Discussing an issue at the time it occurs has proven difficult, but I've found that people are far more understanding than I've been giving them credit for.
Reminds me of a Sherlock Holmes story. A wife was hiding a secret from her husband - not something evil, nothing she did wrong, but something that was at the time not socially approved - and when the secret finally came out she asked him what he would do about it. He said, "I'm not a perfect man Ellie, but I think I'm a bit better than you have given me credit for being."

Worry about what people will say can keep us from talking about a matter that comes between us, can get in the way of clearing the air, so to speak. But what we worry people will say and do is usually much greater than the reaction we get if we go ahead and talk to the person about the problem.