Was Solomon Saved?

[Kerry]

Better yet was Adam saved, there is no mention that he repented.

 

[Kerry]

I would rather say I don't know, because I don't know. Maybe y'all have some insight that I haven't seen. But, I would give them the benefit of the doubt.

 

[Brainfreeze]

Believe what you want... Those who seek truth will find it, I would advise anyone to search out solomon... I call it " solomons problems " ... Truth is there who seek Yahshua/Jesus Christ..

 

[Brainfreeze]

Tell me... what other Bible character was:

(a) King of Jerusalem?
(b) Son of David?
(c) Great in wisdom unlike any other in Jerusalem?

This is all taken from Ecclesiastes.

I thought that's what you used to mention Jesus ?... Now it's solomon ?

 

[Kerry]

I'm glad that you put Jesus after Yashua, because a lot of folks are talking about Yahshua\Joshua.

 

[Jason0047]

Dear BR:

Well, that is not an answer to the questions.
Again, tell me... what other Bible character was:

(a) King of Jerusalem?
(b) Son of David?
(c) Great in wisdom unlike any other in Jerusalem?

This is all taken from Ecclesiastes.

 

[ELECT]

Better yet was Adam saved, there is no mention that he repented.

both he an Eve are saved

Revelation 13:8
And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

Genesis 3:21King James Version (KJV)

21 Unto Adam also and to his wife did the Lord God make coats of skins, and clothed them.

 

[Kerry]

But men did not call on the name of the Lord until Seth was of age. Why didn't Adam call on the name of the Lord?

 

[ELECT]

Believe what you want... Those who seek truth will find it, I would advise anyone to search out solomon... I call it " solomons problems " ... Truth is there who seek Yahshua/Jesus Christ..

i think your brain is freeze when it comes to understanding scripture

 

[BradC]

Better yet was Adam saved, there is no mention that he repented.

Yes, both Adam and his wife Eve were both saved through the shedding of blood. They accepted from God the covering that He made for them. That covering speaks of righteousness imputed to them through the shedding of blood without works.

 

[ELECT]

But men did not call on the name of the Lord until Seth was of age. Why didn't Adam call on the name of the Lord?

[h=1]Genesis 4 King James Version (KJV)[/h]4 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the Lord.
2 And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground.
3 And in process of time it came to pass, that Cain brought of the fruit of the ground an offering unto the Lord.
4 And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And the Lord had respect unto Abel and to his offering:
5 But unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect. And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell.
6 And the Lord said unto Cain, Why art thou wroth? and why is thy countenance fallen?

Who were they sacreficing to and calling upon ?
Who did Eve give praise to ?
25 And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew.

 

[Brainfreeze]

Dear BR:

Well, that is not an answer to the questions.
Again, tell me... what other Bible character was:

(a) King of Jerusalem?
(b) Son of David?
(c) Great in wisdom unlike any other in Jerusalem?

This is all taken from Ecclesiastes.

Ecclesiastes (/ɨˌkliːziˈæstiːz/; Greek: Ἐκκλησιαστής, Ekklesiastes, Hebrew: קֹהֶלֶת, Qoheleth, Koheleth) The title Ecclesiastes is a Latin transliteration of the Greek translation of the Hebrew Koheleth (meaning "Gatherer", but traditionally translated as "Teacher" or "Preacher"[1]), the eponymous author of the book.


Where does it say the writers name is solomon... I don't want to hear about " what it might mean " .. I want facts ... Fact is it says written by KOHELETH, if it was solomon... Then the book is LYING, solomons name is solomon, not Koheleth..

There were plenty of kings, plenty of " wise men ", and the lineage of David is long as well.. How do we know it's not solomons son ? or Solomon's sons son ? THE NAME SOLOMON is not there, Jason.. It's just not there...

 

[Brainfreeze]

9And YAHWEH was angry with Solomon, because his heart was turned from YAHWEH God of Israel, which had appeared unto him twice, 10And had commanded him concerning this thing, that he should not go after other gods: but he kept not that which YAHWEH commanded. 11Wherefore YAHWEH said unto Solomon, Forasmuch as this is done of thee, and thou hast not kept my covenant and my statutes, which I have commanded thee, I will surely rend the kingdom from thee, and will give it to thy servant. 12Notwithstanding in thy days I will not do it for David thy father's sake: but I will rend it out of the hand of thy son.


So I guess this scripture " facts " TRUTH.... means nothing to a few of you ?

 

[Jason0047]

Ecclesiastes (/ɨˌkliːziˈæstiːz/; Greek: Ἐκκλησιαστής, Ekklesiastes, Hebrew: קֹהֶלֶת, Qoheleth, Koheleth) The title Ecclesiastes is a Latin transliteration of the Greek translation of the Hebrew Koheleth (meaning "Gatherer", but traditionally translated as "Teacher" or "Preacher"[1]), the eponymous author of the book.


Where does it say the writers name is solomon... I don't want to hear about " what it might mean " .. I want facts ... Fact is it says written by KOHELETH, if it was solomon... Then the book is LYING, solomons name is solomon, not Koheleth..

There were plenty of kings, plenty of " wise men ", and the lineage of David is long as well.. How do we know it's not solomons son ? or Solomon's sons son ? THE NAME SOLOMON is not there, Jason.. It's just not there...

That's like saying a murder or a form of violence has not occured even though one person's blood is covered all over the bedroom of their house, along with the neighbors hearing horrible screams last night in addition to them seeing some guy dragging something like a body into the trunk of his car.

The evidence is obvious. Compare 1 Kings 4:29 with Ecclesiastes 1:16. Solomon was given great wisdom unlike any other.

In addition, Solomon was David's son and was King of Jerusalem.

To top it off, Solomon was known for his excessive lifestyle of women and riches. How odd that this very book mentions how the pleasure of riches and women are vanity.

 

[Brainfreeze]

That's like saying a murder has not occured even though one person's blood is covered all over the bedroom, and the neighbors heard a horrible scream last night along with them seeing some guy dragging something like a body into the trunk of his car.

The evidence is obvious. Compare 1 Kings 4:29 with Ecclesiastes 1:16. Solomon was given great wisdom unlike any other.

In addition, Solomon was David's son and was King of Jerusalem.

To top it off, Solomon was known for his excessive lifestyle of women and riches. How odd that this very book mentions how the pleasure of riches and women are vanity.

Doesn't satan have wisdom like no other ?

11Moreover the word of YAHWEH came unto me, saying, 12Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith YAHWEH ; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.

 

[kennethcadwell]

Wrong, David did repent..

15And Nathan departed unto his house. And YAHWEH struck the child that Uriah's wife bare unto David, and it was very sick. 16David therefore besought God for the child; and David fasted, and went in, and lay all night upon the earth. 17And the elders of his house arose, and went to him, to raise him up from the earth: but he would not, neither did he eat bread with them.

18And it came to pass on the seventh day, that the child died. And the servants of David feared to tell him that the child was dead: for they said, Behold, while the child was yet alive, we spake unto him, and he would not hearken unto our voice: how will he then vex himself, if we tell him that the child is dead?

19But when David saw that his servants whispered, David perceived that the child was dead: therefore David said unto his servants, Is the child dead? And they said, He is dead.

20Then David arose from the earth, and washed, and anointed himself, and changed his apparel, and came into the house of YAHWEH, and worshipped: then he came to his own house; and when he required, they set bread before him, and he did eat.

I never said that David didn't repent.
What I said was read the Psalms he wrote and in them you will see that in some of them he did not use his own name or the words confess or repent.

Example:

[h=1]Psalm 51:12-14King James Version (KJV)[/h]12 Restore unto me the joy of thy salvation; and uphold me with thy free spirit.
13 Then will I teach transgressors thy ways; and sinners shall be converted unto thee.
14 Deliver me from bloodguiltiness, O God, thou God of my salvation: and my tongue shall sing aloud of thy righteousness.


This is just part of the Psalm but if you read the whole thing his name, and the words confession and repentance do not appear in this but we know this is what David was doing.

 

[Kerry]

I never said that David didn't repent.
What I said was read the Psalms he wrote and in them you will see that in some of them he did not use his own name or the words confess or repent.

Example:

Psalm 51:12-14King James Version (KJV)

12 Restore unto me the joy of thy salvation; and uphold me with thy free spirit.
13 Then will I teach transgressors thy ways; and sinners shall be converted unto thee.
14 Deliver me from bloodguiltiness, O God, thou God of my salvation: and my tongue shall sing aloud of thy righteousness.


This is just part of the Psalm but if you read the whole thing his name, and the words confession and repentance do not appear in this but we know this is what David was doing.

David was constantly repenting and God saw fit to make his the Messiah.

 

[Jason0047]

i think your brain is freeze when it comes to understanding scripture

Let's play nice now, my friend. In other words, believers should love and be patient with others.

 

[ELECT]

9And YAHWEH was angry with Solomon, because his heart was turned from YAHWEH God of Israel, which had appeared unto him twice, 10And had commanded him concerning this thing, that he should not go after other gods: but he kept not that which YAHWEH commanded. 11Wherefore YAHWEH said unto Solomon, Forasmuch as this is done of thee, and thou hast not kept my covenant and my statutes, which I have commanded thee, I will surely rend the kingdom from thee, and will give it to thy servant. 12Notwithstanding in thy days I will not do it for David thy father's sake: but I will rend it out of the hand of thy son.


So I guess this scripture " facts " TRUTH.... means nothing to a few of you ?

i wonder what happens when a brainfreeze freezes

 

[Jason0047]

Doesn't satan have wisdom like no other ?

11Moreover the word of YAHWEH came unto me, saying, 12Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith YAHWEH ; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.

An angelic being did not write Ecclesiastes. He was a son of David and a King of Jerusalem AND he had great wisdom unlike his predecessors.