In Seconds (We lost humanity)

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Rachel20

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It only took seconds and their world changed,
The walking dead of humanity, estranged
Were they once men, women and babies?
Now with skin hanging out, in pieces
What are they but frightening apparitions?
Who will help them as they cry out?
Who will comfort them, as they die out?
There is no one. Their entire city was wiped out.
It is unrecognizable, horrifying pieces of carbon,
The glowing white fireball, hotter than the sun
Incinerated all, all that is left of humanity
Are shadows of what was once but never will be.



A poem on the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

"Rest in peace. We will not repeat this evil." -- epitaph at Memorial Cenotaph

"What is the best way to avenge an enemy? It is to forgive" -- A Hiroshima survivor.





Art from Hiroshima and Nagasaki survivors.















 
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definitely not America's "shining moment". :(

i've heard the defenses...the Japanese were doing (insert atrocity here) to their own people.
they would never have just given up...blah, blah...

but my mind always comes back to Oppenheimer's quote of the Bhagavad Gita:
Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.

the 'lucky' ones were at the site of the blast, killed almost instantly.
the rest...too horrible to contemplate, but we must think about it. :( :(

please, come, Lord Jesus!
 
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It was a lot longer than seconds.. Thank the Lord we stopped this evil, satanic empire...[video=youtube;ZY4IKnaz76k]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZY4IKnaz76k[/video]
 
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Rachel20

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psychomom said:
definitely not America's "shining moment". :(

i've heard the defenses...the Japanese were doing (insert atrocity here) to their own people.
they would never have just given up...blah, blah...

but my mind always comes back to Oppenheimer's quote of the Bhagavad Gita:
Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.

the 'lucky' ones were at the site of the blast, killed almost instantly.
the rest...too horrible to contemplate, but we must think about it. :( :(

please, come, Lord Jesus!
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Thank you Ellie for addressing it and reading it.

I love you so much! You are one lady, who's not afraid of talking about things but you do it in such a lovely manner!


For a long while, especially after the War, I've read the US censored a lot of the footage and photographs of the survivors and aftermath of the bombings.

We've only been told of the horrors of a nuclear attack, but the knowledge of the experience of it has not been as widespread as it should be.

Or public memories are short-lived anyway.


Our pursuit of knowledge has been to find the most devastating ways to destroy humanity.


War in itself too, has caused so many people to lose their lives. The destruction of atomic bombing is one thing, the firebombing of Tokyo too saw the loss of 100k lives.

American casualties during WW2 , was around 100k.

Not to mention the state of affairs now... how many people must be suffering today because of war, terrorism and ruthless acts of vengeance.
 
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Rachel20

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PennEd said:
It was a lot longer than seconds.. Thank the Lord we stopped this evil, satanic empire...
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This is not about the Japanese Empire.


It is about the death and suffering of a 110k lives, that were lost by the dropping of the atomic bomb.

The questions on who was responsible shall always come up but it's not going to be useful.

Was it necessary, the killing of civilians for a war? As a patriotic American, you might give me a list of reasons.

The loss of lives of innocents are not on the hands of one single country alone.


Meanwhile I do want to share another link :-

Sankiche Toge's poems on this are much more moving and truer than mine.

Do read it if you get the chance.


Poems of the atomic bomb | War Is A Crime .org
 
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By July 1945, the Allies were ready to put the kibosh on the war in Japan. So they issued the Potsdam Declaration, demanding the unconditional surrender of Japan and threatening "utter destruction." Then the Allies waited like a sixth-grader waiting for his first "Do you like me?" response.

Aw, isn't that so sweet?​
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Unsurprisingly, Japanese reporters were pretty eager to find out what the official government response was going to be, and consequently they bugged Japanese Premier Kantaro Suzuki nonstop for a statement. Eventually, Suzuki caved in, called a news conference and said the equivalent of, "No comment. We're still thinking about it." The reporters had to go back unsatisfied, the Japanese government eventually came to a decision and told the U.S., and everything worked out fine.
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As you may have guessed, that isn't what happened, and it's all because Suzuki used the word "mokusatsu" as his "no comment" response. The problem is, "mokusatsu" can also mean "we're ignoring it in contempt," and that translation was what was relayed back to the American government. After the steam stopped coming out of Harry Truman's ears, the U.S. revealed the real reason it issued the Potsdam Declaration by dropping the atom bomb on Hiroshima 10 days after Suzuki's comment, and then again on Nagasaki three days later.
America doesn't sweat the details.​
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It's worth noting that if Suzuki had just fully explained himself and said, "Let me get back with you on that," none of this would have happened. But whether it's a politician's poor word choice or a translator's failure to read down to the alternate definitions of a word, the only translation the Americans got was, "Japan has just issued the most ill-advised 'Bring it on' ever made."
 
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Rachel20 said:
This is not about the Japanese Empire.


It is about the death and suffering of a 110k lives, that were lost by the dropping of the atomic bomb.

The questions on who was responsible shall always come up but it's not going to be useful.

Was it necessary, the killing of civilians for a war? As a patriotic American, you might give me a list of reasons.

The loss of lives of innocents are not on the hands of one single country alone.


Meanwhile I do want to share another link :-

Sankiche Toge's poems on this are much more moving and truer than mine.

Do read it if you get the chance.


Poems of the atomic bomb | War Is A Crime .org
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Am I happy that innocent lives had to be lost to stop this evil? Of course not!! But evil must be defeated, not reasoned with.

I am extremely glad my father, and millions of other Americans, didn't have to land on mainline Japan to confront these evil fanatics. If America had not utterly defeated Japan than perhaps YOU would have suffered the same fate as untold Chinese and other women who were raped hundreds of times and then had their sex organs cut off before being butchered.

I think the words you should be searching for is "Thank You America for confronting and stopping this great evil".
 
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Frankly, this thread was not about blaming a country.

It was a poem about the suffering of the Hiroshima and Nagasaki victims and the damage done by an atomic weapon.

The hope I had in posting this, was to reflect on lives lost due to such a war and the devastating consequences of a nuclear attack.
It was to ask ourselves, what are we as Christians, supposed to do? Don't we aid the suffering and the hurt?


It was not to shine a spotlight on America. I suppose patriotic Americans feel the need to justify the actions of their country, however throwing around the situation of a rape is so insensitive.


Really disappointed at the turn of discussion here.
 
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remember that politicians who were (supposedly) elected by voters into office, continue paying for over one million murders every year of innocents, both before AND after they are born.
that's AT LEAST 110,000 lives murdered mercilessly and brutally EVERY 40 days.......... God's judgment of the usa is right at the door..... or long past..... but in any case, it is absolutely certain.
 
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Rachel20 said:
Frankly, this thread was not about blaming a country.

It was a poem about the suffering of the Hiroshima and Nagasaki victims and the damage done by an atomic weapon.

The hope I had in posting this, was to reflect on lives lost due to such a war and the devastating consequences of a nuclear attack.
It was to ask ourselves, what are we as Christians, supposed to do? Don't we aid the suffering and the hurt?


It was not to shine a spotlight on America. I suppose patriotic Americans feel the need to justify the actions of their country, however throwing around the situation of a rape is so insensitive.


Really disappointed at the turn of discussion here.
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Unbelievable!! YOU start a bash America thread, and when someone defends the country that has done more good for humankind than any other in history YOU attack them and then bemoan how the thread went is simply incredible!
 
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PennEd said:
Unbelievable!! YOU start a bash America thread, and when someone defends the country that has done more good for humankind than any other in history YOU attack them and then bemoan how the thread went is simply incredible!
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i'll admit i'm biased, because i love Rachel very dearly...

but i honestly don't think the intent of the poem was to bash America.
it's a poem about suffering...

i love my country and am grateful to God i was born here.
all my uncles served in WW2, and i am grateful for their service.

but perhaps we can agree that though the US has done a lot of good, as a nation we're not perfect?
and that the innocent civilians upon whom the bombs were dropped actually suffered?

to my mind, that's all the poem is saying.

peace.
 
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