And the Law of God after the Cross is simply this: To believe on the One He has sent and to love one another (from 1 Jn. 3).
You err in that you define God's Law exclusively as the laws given to Moses at Sinai.
It's really much simpler than that - Love, the Fruit of the Spirit.
If one is loving others, they aren't murdering them, are they?
-JGIG
Over simplification. To the point that it would allow anomia to those that wanted it....
SO you said this is all; "And the Law of God after the Cross is simply this: To believe on the One He has sent and to love one another (from 1 Jn. 3)."
Lets look:
"To believe on the One He has sent"
Ok im with that, but how do we do this, because just believe is pretty vague? I mean the demons believe He exist....
How about we stop debating about how I think you need to submit to every Law and you think every Law must be rejected and let Him tell us?
John 5:24, "Most certainly I tell you, he who
hears my word, and believes him who sent me, has eternal life, and doesn't come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life."
John 12:48, "He who rejects Me, and
does not follow My words has One Who judges him. The word that I have spoken, the same will be used to judge him in the last day."
Ohh wow, so according to the Messiah Himself we must follow His words.... I wonder in His religion if there is difference between believing and doing? Nope. The word shamah means to hear and obey....
and I can match His words in John by the words of Moses;
Deuteronomy 18:18-19, "I will raise up for them a Prophet like you from among their brothers, and I will put My words in His mouth, and He will tell them everything I command Him. Whoever will not
listen to My words, which He speaks in My Name, I will judge him for it"
"
listen" is word #8085 שָׁמַע
shama` {shaw-mah'}
Brown-Driver-Briggs (Old Testament Hebrew-English Lexicon)
A primitive root;
to hear intelligently (often with implication of attention, obedience, etc.; causatively to tell, etc.)
Hebrew Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar) - 1)
to hear, listen to, obey
So go what ever direction you choose, but I think it's pretty clear that this "believe" thingy means belief does obey. You may/can IDK preach a belief that doesent also obey, the Spirit of YHWH has told me that "belief" (without obedience) gets fire. (and wanted me to share that here this morning)
So that would leave, " to love one another"
So we should find out what love is.
Im sure we can find many different definitions of what "love" is, since you say there is no law there would be no set standard of what love is, so maybe I should go ask around? Im sure there are many homosexuals, prostitutes and promiscuous people spread lots of "love" around, they want to make sure their partner has great joy...whats more loving than that right? Or maybe "muslims" have some love to spread around? Or scientologists, some of them are nice people, and they have love for days!
Ohh but wait, those are all man's ideas of what love are......How can we be so lost? Told to love... but what is love?????
You think the Almighty would lets us know what love is..... maybe in a scroll or a book, you know of any book like that? Ohh wait, I think I know of a book like that...lets see what it says:
Romans 13:9-10, "For the commandments: You shall not commit adultery, You shall not murder, You shall not steal, You shall not bring false testimony, You shall not covet, and
all other commandments are summed up in these Laws; namely: You must love your neighbor as yourself. Love does no wrong to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfilling of the law."
Well would you look at that you silly goose.... Who woulda thunk it? So if I obey the Commandments im loving according to Scripture, seems all you that preach differently are working for the enemy, no it doesn't seem that way, if in practice it is happening, then it is, in reality, happening.
According to the New Testament the COMMANDMENTS ARE LOVING! WOW! WOWOWZY! WOWOWOWZERSRSRS!
What a radical idea! Bur wait if you follow what the Messiah says your justified by works right? SO we better do the exact opposite of everything He says right? Dont want to be justified by works right? Oh who has bewitched you.... So lets see if there are some other Scriptures that say this, because we dont want to error....
Deuteronomy 10:12-13, "And now, O Israyl, what does Yahweh your Father require of you, but to reverence Yahweh your Father
by walking in all His ways, by loving Him, by serving Yahweh your Father with all your heart, and with all your soul. By keeping the Laws of Yahweh, with His statutes, which I command you this day, so that you may be blessed?"
1 Yahchanan 5:2-3, "By this we know that we love the children of Yahweh: When we love Yahweh
by keeping His Laws. For
this is the love of Yahweh: That we keep His Law, and His Law is not grievous." (entole; Law, Commandment, etc) (fact)
I wonder if there is a verse that connects no Law with no love?
Mattithyah 24:12, "And because
iniquity will abound, the love of the many will grow cold."
"iniquity" is:#0458
anomia {an-om-ee'-ah} from G0459
Greek Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar)
1) the condition of without law
1a) because ignorant of it
1b) because of violating it
2) contempt and violation of law, iniquity, wickedness
Will you looksey doodle do at that? No law no love..... seems your all preaching lies.
Deuteronomy 10:16, "Therefore circumcise the foreskin of your heart, and do not be stiff-necked any longer."
Love in practice, not in jaw flappin:
Leviticus 19:9-18,29-31 "When you reap the harvest of your land, you shall not completely harvest the corners of your field, nor shall you gather the gleanings of your harvest. You shall not glean your vineyard, nor shall you gather every grape of your vineyard. You shall leave them for the poor and the stranger; I am Yahweh your Father. You shall not steal, nor deal falsely, nor lie one to another. Do not vow falsely with My Name, and so profane the Name of your Father. I am Yahweh. You shall not defraud your neighbor, nor rob him. Do not hold back the wages of a hired man overnight. Do not curse the deaf or put a stumblingblock in front of the blind; but reverence your Father. I am Yahweh. Do not pervert judgment: You shall not show partiality to the poor, nor honor to the person of the great. In righteousness you shall judge your neighbor fairly. You shall not go about tale-bearing or slandering among your people. Do not do anything that endangers your neighbor's life. I am Yahweh. You shall not hate your neighbor in your heart. Rebuke your brother or your sister frankly, so you will not share in his or her guilt. Do not seek revenge nor bear a grudge against one of your own people; but you shall love your neighbor; whether a brother or an enemy, as yourself. I am Yahweh.Do not prostitute your daughter, to cause her to be a harlot; or the land will fall into harlotry, and the land will become full of wickedness. Do not turn to mediums nor familiar spirits. Do not seek after them, to be defiled by them. I am Yahweh. You shall stand up before the gray headed, and you shall honor the presence of an Elder or Teacher; thereby giving reverence to your Heavenly Father. I am Yahweh. If a stranger lives with you in your and, do not mistreat him. The stranger living with you must be treated as one of your native-born, and you shall love him as yourself; for you were strangers in the land of Egypt. I am Yahweh. Do not use dishonest standards when measuring length, weight, or quantity. You shall have honest balances, honest weights, an honest ephah; a dry measure, and an honest in; a liquid measure. I am Yahweh your Father Who brought you out of the land of Egypt; Therefore, you must observe all My statutes and My judgments, and perform and do them. I am Yahweh."
Ohh and btw, "
Unless heaven and earth passes away, one yodh--the smallest of the letters--will in no way pass from the Law"
Heaven and earth did not yet pass.
But just like in the garden the snake comes along and says, "you dont have to follow that, you can ignore those instructions and still have life."
and they follow the serpent.
Matt 5:17-18, "Do not even think that I have come to destroy the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to destroy them, but to fulfill them. For truly I say to you; Unless heaven and earth passes away, one yodh--the smallest of the letters--will in no way pass from the Law, until all things are perfected."
When will heaven and earth pass?
Revelation 21:1-2, "And
I saw a new heaven and a new earth,
for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no more sea. And I, Yahchanan, saw the holy city, Yahweh Shammah, coming down from Yahweh out of heaven, prepared as brides adorned for their husbands. And I heard a great voice out of heaven, saying: Behold, the tabernacle of Yahweh is with men, and He will dwell with them, and they will be His people, and Yahweh Himself will be with them, and be their Father.
The Spirit of Yahweh calls men everywhere to repent.