Jews are Going Home,Signs of the Times are Everywhere

[Hizikyah]

Actually, this is not really the case for the majority of the Jews follow Antichrist during the dark evil days of the Great Tribulation and two thirds of them are executed by Christ at His Second Coming for doing so! Zech 13v8

Few Jews will see through Antichrist for what he really is because they are deceived by the mighty lying signs, wonders and miracles that he does and so are put into the lake of fire at Christ's 2nd Coming. Matt 24v24, 2Thess 1v1-12, Rev 13v12,13, 14v9-11

I agree with most of what you said but want to add, it's not just Jews who are fooled;

Revelation 13:3-4, "And I saw one of his heads, as it were, wounded to death. And his deadly wound was healed; and all the world wondered; (followed), after the beast. And they worshiped the dragon which gave power to the beast; and they worshiped the beast, saying: Who is like the beast? Who is able to make war with him?"

 

[Cycel]

We are indeed in the end-times. More and more Jews are beginning to accept Yeshua as the Messiah and Abba Father is raising a mighty army to do His work before Yeshua returns. The Jews have the biblical knowledge and we have Jesus and when you combine the two you have a formidable combination...

I predict the world will continue as it always has, at least until the Sun becomes too warm for life to continue.

 

[kaylagrl]

I predict the world will continue as it always has, at least until the Sun becomes too warm for life to continue.

I guess we'll see

 

[Sirk]

Bravo to the president for not attending the march in Paris btw.Way to represent there man.Guess there wasnt a golf course close enough.

It's just amazing to me how the President thumbs his nose at all that is good and decent....and virtually on a daily basis.

 

[kaylagrl]

It's just amazing to me how the President thumbs his nose at all that is good and decent....and virtually on a daily basis.

That is why I lose it a little when people try to convince me he's a Christian.lol I find the opposite to be true.I have a book someone gave me by Dinesh Desouza and have just begun to read it.I agree with him,Obamas America is not the same as mine.I fear what will happen to this country by the time he's gone.I believe is purposeful in what he is doing,I dont think he's an idiot that doesnt know what he's doing.I think he knows exactly what he's doing.

 

[Sirk]

That is why I lose it a little when people try to convince me he's a Christian.lol I find the opposite to be true.I have a book someone gave me by Dinesh Desouza and have just begun to read it.I agree with him,Obamas America is not the same as mine.I fear what will happen to this country by the time he's gone.I believe is purposeful in what he is doing,I dont think he's an idiot that doesnt know what he's doing.I think he knows exactly what he's doing.

It almost seems like our leaders are reading from a script.

 

[Hizikyah]

That is why I lose it a little when people try to convince me he's a Christian.lol I find the opposite to be true.I have a book someone gave me by Dinesh Desouza and have just begun to read it.I agree with him,Obamas America is not the same as mine.I fear what will happen to this country by the time he's gone.I believe is purposeful in what he is doing,I dont think he's an idiot that doesnt know what he's doing.I think he knows exactly what he's doing.

No they know it called "double speak"

When Bushski said, "if you not with us your with them"

we thought he meant us..... no he meant "us" as in the elite....

When Obumma said "we need radical change"

Ohh change is coming, just not the changed we hoped for or expected...

those speeches are not for us, they are a slap in our faces, most however have no clue of this....

This may not be as "good" pf an example as the two above but this shows that the "agenda" is a little different than they "propose"

quote, "you free and freedom is beautiful, it will take time to restore chaos, chaos out of order but we will""

[video=youtube;OMti55OLO5s]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMti55OLO5s[/video]

 

[jb]

I agree with most of what you said but want to add, it's not just Jews who are fooled;

Revelation 13:3-4, "And I saw one of his heads, as it were, wounded to death. And his deadly wound was healed; and all the world wondered; (followed), after the beast. And they worshiped the dragon which gave power to the beast; and they worshiped the beast, saying: Who is like the beast? Who is able to make war with him?"

Yep, fully agree, I only mentioned the Jews because they were the topic of the thread....

 

[JesusistheChrist]

Speaking of "scripts", ought not Christians be following this one:

I Timothy chapter 2

[1] I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men;
[2] For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.
[3] For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;
[4] Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

???

 

[kaylagrl]

No they know it called "double speak"

When Bushski said, "if you not with us your with them"

we thought he meant us..... no he meant "us" as in the elite....

When Obumma said "we need radical change"

Ohh change is coming, just not the changed we hoped for or expected...

those speeches are not for us, they are a slap in our faces, most however have no clue of this....

This may not be as "good" pf an example as the two above but this shows that the "agenda" is a little different than they "propose"

quote, "you free and freedom is beautiful, it will take time to restore chaos, chaos out of order but we will""

[video=youtube;OMti55OLO5s]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMti55OLO5s[/video]

Yes Obama promised change but no one seemed smart enough to stop and say "what type of change does he mean?" No we know I sure didnt vote for him,either time.

 

[kaylagrl]

Speaking of "scripts", ought not Christians be following this one:

I Timothy chapter 2

[1] I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men;
[2] For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.
[3] For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;
[4] Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

???

Yes you can pray for leaders but when they are going directly against Gods word I dont think he wants us to be quiet about it or go along with it.Not from what I see in the OT.

 

[Sirk]

Yes you can pray for leaders but when they are going directly against Gods word I dont think he wants us to be quiet about it or go along with it.Not from what I see in the OT.

It seems with mans knowledge there are always "hairs to split and pieces that don't fit".

 

[Hizikyah]

Speaking of "scripts", ought not Christians be following this one:

I Timothy chapter 2

[1] I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men;
[2] For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.
[3] For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;
[4] Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

???

That is a well meaning point, something I have thought of, and actually discussed with a friend, to be honset I am uncertian in this manner, but will give my opinion at the end...

So I brought this up about 3 or 4 years ago to a friend, about the world is so crazy, Im going to pray that these people stop this insanity, my friend replied, "for all this is written these men were pre-ordained for these acts they are carrying out similar to Judas." I replied, "yeah but that does not mean I shuld not pray for them, maybe they can change."
He said, "go read;",

John 17:9, "I am praying for them. I am not praying for the world but for those whom you have given me, for they are yours."

This stunned me, and I prayed and what I believe I got was some things are meant to be, there is no need to pray against things that are already determined...

So in my humble opinion, and I don;t want any to take it as anything more, IMO, I pray, "Father if they are yours and it is your will, please let these men change, or let people be speared, or don;t allow this to come upon those who seek you."

JMO, but I do strongly say, the best thing I think I ever prayed for is "for His will to be done, no matter if I know it, don;t know it, understand it or don't understand it, but His will be done." JMO.

Matt 6:1-14, "And when you pray, you must not be like the hypocrites. For they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, so they may be seen by men. Truly I say to you; They have their reward.But you, when you pray, go into the secret place, and when you have shut the door, pray to your Father Who is in secret; and your Father, Who sees in secret, will reward you openly. And when you pray, do not use mindless repetitions as the heathen do. For they think that they will be heard only because they speak so much. Therefore, do not be like them; for your Father knows what things you have need of, before you ask Him. After this manner, you should pray: Our Father Who is in heaven, hallowed is Your Name. Your Kingdom come. Your will be done in earth, as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us of our debts, as we forgive our debtors. And do not allow us to be led into temptation, but deliver us from evil. For Yours is the Kingdom, and the Power, and the Glory forever, so be it. For if you forgive men their trespasses, your Heavenly Father will also forgive you; But if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses."

 

[JesusistheChrist]

Yes you can pray for leaders but when they are going directly against Gods word I dont think he wants us to be quiet about it or go along with it.Not from what I see in the OT.

What about what you see in the New Testament?

"Honor all men. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honor the king." (I Peter 2:17)

What is it about "Honor the king" that you and others don't understand? Do you know who "the king" was when Peter wrote this? Have you ever heard of NERO? Even he was due "honor" because of his position and tradition has it that NERO had Peter killed.

You might also want to read Acts chapters 23-26 where Paul is repeatedly on trial BEFORE WICKED MEN. In every instance but one, he showed great respect and honor unto the rulers EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE WICKED MEN. Even then, in the one instance where he "reviled" his "ruler", HE REPENTED...and he even cited an Old Testament passage as his proof text for doing the same:

Acts chapter 23

[1] And Paul, earnestly beholding the council, said, Men and brethren, I have lived in all good conscience before God until this day.
[2] And the high priest Ananias commanded them that stood by him to smite him on the mouth.
[3] Then said Paul unto him, God shall smite thee, thou whited wall: for sittest thou to judge me after the law, and commandest me to be smitten contrary to the law?
[4] And they that stood by said, Revilest thou God's high priest?
[5] Then said Paul, I wist not, brethren, that he was the high priest: for it is written, Thou shalt not speak evil of the ruler of thy people.

Here is where "it is written":

"Thou shalt not revile the gods, nor curse the ruler of thy people." (Exodus 22:28)

He/she who has ears to hear, let him/her hear.

 

[JesusistheChrist]

Btw, you might also want to read of Daniel's dealings with king Nebuchadnezzar...especially if you're partial to the OT.

 

[Hizikyah]

Btw, you might also want to read of Daniel's dealings with king Nebuchadnezzar...especially if you're partial to the OT.

IDK ifthat was to me or not, but...

Amazing turn around, the last person one would ever think would come to Him...
(7 years a "animal" right? Amazing... Im going to post it for all to read)

Daniyl 4:32-34, "They will drive you from men, and your dwelling will be with the beasts of the field; they will make you eat grass like the oxen, and seven times; years, will pass over you, until you know thatYahweh rules in the kingdom of men, and gives it to whomever He wills!At that moment the word was fulfilled upon Nebuchadnezzar. He was driven from men, ate grass like an ox, his body was bathed with the dew of heaven, while his hair grew like eagles' feathers, and his nails like the claws of birds.At the end of this period I, Nebuchadnezzar, lifted up my eyes to heaven, and my understanding returned to me. Then I blessed Yahweh, and I praised and honored Him Who lives forever, Whose reign is an everlasting reign, and His kingdom is from generation to generation;"

Daniyl 4:37, "Now I, Nebuchadnezzar, praise and worship with uplifted hands, and honor Yahweh in heaven, Whose every work is truth, and His ways judgment; and those who walk in pride, He is able to abase; humble."

This is why I said this* above, because we don;t know what tomorrow will bring, Yah does!

*"JMO, but I do strongly say, the best thing I think I ever prayed for is "for His will to be done, no matter if I know it, don;t know it, understand it or don't understand it, but His will be done." JMO."

 

[Sophia]

Yup, End impending. Unless a person is postmillennialist, there is no Biblical rationale for praying for the negative signs of the End to stop coming.
We shouldn't be rooting for Satan or supporting the advancement of his role in the End, (Matthew 24:15)
but rooting for the Church, and supporting it's role in the End. (Matthew 24:14)

The 2 roles we are given to fill are Unity(discipleship) and Witness(evangelism) when it comes to the End, and these are to the glory of God.

If we are focusing on the prophecies that are outside of our role (the gathering of Israel, the revealing of the son of perdition and the abomination, the natural disasters, the wars and rumors of wars, etc) then we are losing focus on our true callings of discipleship and evangelism. Recognize the signs, but focus on the Christ.


please remember that the true gathering of Israel occurs AFTER (or as) Christ Returns, not before.
The Millennial Kingdom is not yet inaugurated (it is spiritually inaugurated, but not physically). Therefore, the gathering that we are seeing is NOT the one that is prophesied to happen at the Return of Christ!!! Don't be fooled.
I am speaking from a dispensational perspective, because that is the only perspective that seems so ready and willing to support this false Israel.
The Promise Land will be restored, BUT NOT UNTIL THE KINGDOM COMES! Any "restoration" beforehand is just a superficial restoration, and is a TRICK of the enemy. The glory of it will be given to MAN, not God. The very sign that it is of man, not of God.

 

[ISeeYou]

Yes you can pray for leaders but when they are going directly against Gods word I dont think he wants us to be quiet about it or go along with it.Not from what I see in the OT.

I might agree with our freind JITC on giving honouring and prayer, even as the same seems shown between a husband and his wife

1 Peter 3:7 Likewise, ye husbands, dwell with them according to knowledge, giving honour unto the wife, as unto the weaker vessel, and as being heirs together of the grace of life; that your prayers be not hindered.

I like this...

"He who has ears to hear"

 

[JesusistheChrist]

IDK ifthat was to me or not, but...

Amazing turn around, the last person one would ever think would come to Him...
(7 years a "animal" right? Amazing... Im going to post it for all to read)

Daniyl 4:32-34, "They will drive you from men, and your dwelling will be with the beasts of the field; they will make you eat grass like the oxen, and seven times; years, will pass over you, until you know thatYahweh rules in the kingdom of men, and gives it to whomever He wills!At that moment the word was fulfilled upon Nebuchadnezzar. He was driven from men, ate grass like an ox, his body was bathed with the dew of heaven, while his hair grew like eagles' feathers, and his nails like the claws of birds.At the end of this period I, Nebuchadnezzar, lifted up my eyes to heaven, and my understanding returned to me. Then I blessed Yahweh, and I praised and honored Him Who lives forever, Whose reign is an everlasting reign, and His kingdom is from generation to generation;"

Daniyl 4:37, "Now I, Nebuchadnezzar, praise and worship with uplifted hands, and honor Yahweh in heaven, Whose every work is truth, and His ways judgment; and those who walk in pride, He is able to abase; humble."

This is why I said this* above, because we don;t know what tomorrow will bring, Yah does!

*"JMO, but I do strongly say, the best thing I think I ever prayed for is "for His will to be done, no matter if I know it, don;t know it, understand it or don't understand it, but His will be done." JMO."

Actually, I was referring to kaylagrl because she mentioned what she sees in the OT.

Anyhow, God's Word is for all of us and here is how Daniel responded when Nebuchadnezzar asked him to interpret his dream:

Daniel chapter 4

[18] This dream I king Nebuchadnezzar have seen. Now thou, O Belteshazzar, declare the interpretation thereof, forasmuch as all the wise men of my kingdom are not able to make known unto me the interpretation: but thou art able; for the spirit of the holy gods is in thee.
[19] Then Daniel, whose name was Belteshazzar, was astonied for one hour, and his thoughts troubled him. The king spake, and said, Belteshazzar, let not the dream, or the interpretation thereof, trouble thee. Belteshazzar answered and said, My lord, the dream be to them that hate thee, and the interpretation thereof to thine enemies.
[20] The tree that thou sawest, which grew, and was strong, whose height reached unto the heaven, and the sight thereof to all the earth;
[21] Whose leaves were fair, and the fruit thereof much, and in it was meat for all; under which the beasts of the field dwelt, and upon whose branches the fowls of the heaven had their habitation:
[22] It is thou, O king, that art grown and become strong: for thy greatness is grown, and reacheth unto heaven, and thy dominion to the end of the earth.
[23] And whereas the king saw a watcher and an holy one coming down from heaven, and saying, Hew the tree down, and destroy it; yet leave the stump of the roots thereof in the earth, even with a band of iron and brass, in the tender grass of the field; and let it be wet with the dew of heaven, and let his portion be with the beasts of the field, till seven times pass over him;
[24] This is the interpretation, O king, and this is the decree of the most High, which is come upon my lord the king:
[25] That they shall drive thee from men, and thy dwelling shall be with the beasts of the field, and they shall make thee to eat grass as oxen, and they shall wet thee with the dew of heaven, and seven times shall pass over thee, till thou know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will.
[26] And whereas they commanded to leave the stump of the tree roots; thy kingdom shall be sure unto thee, after that thou shalt have known that the heavens do rule.
[27] Wherefore, O king, let my counsel be acceptable unto thee, and break off thy sins by righteousness, and thine iniquities by shewing mercy to the poor; if it may be a lengthening of thy tranquillity.

Daniel called this THEN WICKED KING "my lord" and he sought the "lengthening of Nebuchadnezzar's tranquility" or peace. Is that the attitude being demonstrated here? Hardly. Furthermore:

THE MOST HIGH RULES IN THE KINGDOM OF MEN AND GIVES IT TO WHOMSOEVER HE WILL!

Who raised up Pharaoh?

GOD DID!

"And in very deed for this cause have I raised thee up, for to shew in thee my power; and that my name may be declared throughout all the earth." (Exodus 9:16)

Who raised up the king of Assyria?

GOD DID!

Isaiah chapter 10

[5] O Assyrian, the rod of mine anger, and the staff in their hand is mine indignation.
[6] I will send him against an hypocritical nation, and against the people of my wrath will I give him a charge, to take the spoil, and to take the prey, and to tread them down like the mire of the streets.
[7] Howbeit he meaneth not so, neither doth his heart think so; but it is in his heart to destroy and cut off nations not a few.
[8] For he saith, Are not my princes altogether kings?
[9] Is not Calno as Carchemish? is not Hamath as Arpad? is not Samaria as Damascus?
[10] As my hand hath found the kingdoms of the idols, and whose graven images did excel them of Jerusalem and of Samaria;
[11] Shall I not, as I have done unto Samaria and her idols, so do to Jerusalem and her idols?
[12] Wherefore it shall come to pass, that when the Lord hath performed his whole work upon mount Zion and on Jerusalem, I will punish the fruit of the stout heart of the king of Assyria, and the glory of his high looks.
[13] For he saith, By the strength of my hand I have done it, and by my wisdom; for I am prudent: and I have removed the bounds of the people, and have robbed their treasures, and I have put down the inhabitants like a valiant man:
[14] And my hand hath found as a nest the riches of the people: and as one gathereth eggs that are left, have I gathered all the earth; and there was none that moved the wing, or opened the mouth, or peeped.
[15] Shall the axe boast itself against him that heweth therewith? or shall the saw magnify itself against him that shaketh it? as if the rod should shake itself against them that lift it up, or as if the staff should lift up itself, as if it were no wood.

Who raised up Nebuchadnezzar?

GOD DID!

"And now have I given all these lands unto the hand of Nebuchadnezzar the king of Babylon, my servant; and the beasts of the field have I given him also to serve him." (Jeremiah 27:6)

Who raised up Pontius Pilate?

GOD DID!

John chapter 19

[10] Then saith Pilate unto him, Speakest thou not unto me? knowest thou not that I have power to crucify thee, and have power to release thee?
[11] Jesus answered, Thou couldest have no power at all against me, except it were given thee from above: therefore he that delivered me unto thee hath the greater sin.

Who raised up Barack Obama?

GOD DID!

Romans chapter 13

[1] Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
[2] Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.
[3] For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:
[4] For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.
[5] Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.
[6] For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing.
[7] Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour.

Granted, this portion of scripture speaks of "rulers who are not a terror to good works", but we're told elsewhere to even "honor" WICKED RULERS like Nero in Peter's day. Anyhow:

THERE IS NO POWER BUT OF GOD: THE POWERS THAT BE ARE ORDAINED OF GOD!

Does this mean that all "powers" are good? No, not in the least, but it does mean that we are to "honor" them for their position, just the same. When "push comes to shove", we are to obey God more than men.

Can WICKED RULERS repent? You tell me:

Jonah chapter 3

[4] And Jonah began to enter into the city a day's journey, and he cried, and said, Yet forty days, and Nineveh shall be overthrown.
[5] So the people of Nineveh believed God, and proclaimed a fast, and put on sackcloth, from the greatest of them even to the least of them.
[6] For word came unto the king of Nineveh, and he arose from his throne, and he laid his robe from him, and covered him with sackcloth, and sat in ashes.
[7] And he caused it to be proclaimed and published through Nineveh by the decree of the king and his nobles, saying, Let neither man nor beast, herd nor flock, taste any thing: let them not feed, nor drink water:
[8] But let man and beast be covered with sackcloth, and cry mightily unto God: yea, let them turn every one from his evil way, and from the violence that is in their hands.
[9] Who can tell if God will turn and repent, and turn away from his fierce anger, that we perish not?
[10] And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not.

Of course, Jonah would have much preferred GOD'S WRATH TO COME UPON THESE PEOPLE...and that sounds eerily close to some of the heart attitudes here.

 

[Sophia]

I wish I would be given the gift of strength Daniel had, able to serve and stand alongside the king, and yet not be swayed by the king. He was able to be politically involved, but not politically motivated. Amazing!

In my weakness, it is best for me to just avoid politics altogether, and just pray for the salvation and guidance of our leaders, and God's will to be done (without me inserting what I think God's will is for them).