Guilty Conscience - need an escape

[Elijah19]

Hey guys, I really hope you can help me.

So, recently I've become very aware of a personal character flaw that has held me back significantly in life. I've always previously thought it was a virtue, but now I'm thinking it's actually a destructive vice.

You see, I have a very guilty conscience about everything. My outlook on life and how I choose my moral actions is entirely based on how guilty I feel about anything. And I always go around feeling guilty, all the time. It's not that I've actually done anything wrong (I haven't), I just always let undue guilt fall on me because I tend to believe that's the responsible action to take... bearing my and others burdens and all. But this makes me gullible to people who can use that against me and try to manipulate me.

My family tells me that instead of basing my sense of morality on a strong sense guilt, I should try to base my morality on conviction. They tell me that because Jesus died for me, my guilt has been taken away, and that now I should live in conviction of how I know right from wrong, and have the strength to stand up for or against what I know to be each. They worry that I'll get myself hurt in my relationships and in my work by having a sense of morality and social relation with others around me based entirely on my own level or personal guilt.

My loved ones even warn me that always feeling guilty about everything I do is selfish, because instead of focusing on God and others and how my actions make them feel, I am focusing on how I feel about myself. This, they tell me, is similar to what a suicide or a self-harm patient does by hurting themselves. They derive a sense of selfish pleasure from the pain, thinking it makes them more noticeable, more lovable as a pitied person, or more right with goodness because they think they deserve the pain.

And, as a last confession, I am probably like this because I am a Masochist. I don't say this just to get attention, I am full-on clinically certified as what I just said. It affects my thoughts sexuality as well. This is something I am beginning to hate about myself, and I wonder is there a way out of it. I don't want to be like this anymore! I don't want to feel ashamed of everything I do and feel like I want to be punished and to be in pain/hurt. I don't want to feel like I have to suffer before I can enjoy my life! I don't always want to go around thinking I deserve it and enjoying pain where I get it! That's just messed up! How do I stop this?! Being like this?!

If there is anyone out there who thinks they can help me, give me some verses, or has been through my problem, please let me know. I want some posts on how to stop this guilty living and live with conviction, strength, and assurance.

 

[breno785au]

I know how you feel brother, feeling guilty about my character flaws and that I should be like this and that even though I haven't done anything willfully wrong etc.
Then this dawned on me one day and revelation came:
Romans 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.

Personally, I took me years to understand this but meditate on that, let the Holy Spirit renew your thoughts on this as you ponder on what it really means God really does have your back, He's not expecting you to have it all together right now but learn to put your cares and worries to Him in prayer, what does that mean? For me I've learned that's simply just going to God and telling Him you feel powerless to change and that You want Him to do His work in you, then have patience for that change and just delight yourself in Him, Jesus paid the price so we don't have to, rest in that.

This is what i've learned and am still learning after many years

 

[jaybird88]

you made a good step by coming here and reaching out. its good to have shame but you dont want to hate yourself ether. make friends, and talk. that always helps.

 

[Elijah19]

Thanks breno785au! That really helps a lot!

 

[Mitspa]

Hey guys, I really hope you can help me.

So, recently I've become very aware of a personal character flaw that has held me back significantly in life. I've always previously thought it was a virtue, but now I'm thinking it's actually a destructive vice.

You see, I have a very guilty conscience about everything. My outlook on life and how I choose my moral actions is entirely based on how guilty I feel about anything. And I always go around feeling guilty, all the time. It's not that I've actually done anything wrong (I haven't), I just always let undue guilt fall on me because I tend to believe that's the responsible action to take... bearing my and others burdens and all. But this makes me gullible to people who can use that against me and try to manipulate me.

My family tells me that instead of basing my sense of morality on a strong sense guilt, I should try to base my morality on conviction. They tell me that because Jesus died for me, my guilt has been taken away, and that now I should live in conviction of how I know right from wrong, and have the strength to stand up for or against what I know to be each. They worry that I'll get myself hurt in my relationships and in my work by having a sense of morality and social relation with others around me based entirely on my own level or personal guilt.

My loved ones even warn me that always feeling guilty about everything I do is selfish, because instead of focusing on God and others and how my actions make them feel, I am focusing on how I feel about myself. This, they tell me, is similar to what a suicide or a self-harm patient does by hurting themselves. They derive a sense of selfish pleasure from the pain, thinking it makes them more noticeable, more lovable as a pitied person, or more right with goodness because they think they deserve the pain.

And, as a last confession, I am probably like this because I am a Masochist. I don't say this just to get attention, I am full-on clinically certified as what I just said. It affects my thoughts sexuality as well. This is something I am beginning to hate about myself, and I wonder is there a way out of it. I don't want to be like this anymore! I don't want to feel ashamed of everything I do and feel like I want to be punished and to be in pain/hurt. I don't want to feel like I have to suffer before I can enjoy my life! I don't always want to go around thinking I deserve it and enjoying pain where I get it! That's just messed up! How do I stop this?! Being like this?!

If there is anyone out there who thinks they can help me, give me some verses, or has been through my problem, please let me know. I want some posts on how to stop this guilty living and live with conviction, strength, and assurance.

Shame came to man at the fall...God justifies us and gives us His very own righteousness to restore us from the shame Adam brought upon us ...Its the most righteous thing we will ever do to accept Gods righteousness...its right because God says it right even when your natural mind tries to argue against it. Become a fool and God will make you wise...become weak and God will make you strong...STOP TRYING to judge good and evil in yourself and accept Gods righteous judgment.

 

[Ihsomiet]

Consider God, not your circumstances.

 

[crossnote]

1. There is a fountain filled with blood,
   Drawn from Immanuel’s veins,
   And sinners plunged beneath that flood
   Lose all their guilty stains.
2. The dying thief rejoiced to see
   That fountain in His day;
   And there have I, though vile as he,
   Washed all my sins away.
3. Dear dying Lamb, Thy precious blood
   Shall never lose its pow’r,
   Till all the ransomed church of God
   Are safe, to sin no more.
4. E’er since by faith I saw the stream
   Thy flowing wounds supply,
   Redeeming love has been my theme,
   And shall be till I die.
5. When this poor, lisping, stamm’ring tongue
   Lies silent in the grave,
   Then in a nobler, sweeter song,
   I’ll sing Thy pow’r to save.
6. -William Cowper

Read about Cowper's struggle he had with guilt.
This was his River of Consolation.

 

[JesusistheChrist]

Hey guys, I really hope you can help me.

So, recently I've become very aware of a personal character flaw that has held me back significantly in life. I've always previously thought it was a virtue, but now I'm thinking it's actually a destructive vice.

You see, I have a very guilty conscience about everything. My outlook on life and how I choose my moral actions is entirely based on how guilty I feel about anything. And I always go around feeling guilty, all the time. It's not that I've actually done anything wrong (I haven't), I just always let undue guilt fall on me because I tend to believe that's the responsible action to take... bearing my and others burdens and all. But this makes me gullible to people who can use that against me and try to manipulate me.

My family tells me that instead of basing my sense of morality on a strong sense guilt, I should try to base my morality on conviction. They tell me that because Jesus died for me, my guilt has been taken away, and that now I should live in conviction of how I know right from wrong, and have the strength to stand up for or against what I know to be each. They worry that I'll get myself hurt in my relationships and in my work by having a sense of morality and social relation with others around me based entirely on my own level or personal guilt.

My loved ones even warn me that always feeling guilty about everything I do is selfish, because instead of focusing on God and others and how my actions make them feel, I am focusing on how I feel about myself. This, they tell me, is similar to what a suicide or a self-harm patient does by hurting themselves. They derive a sense of selfish pleasure from the pain, thinking it makes them more noticeable, more lovable as a pitied person, or more right with goodness because they think they deserve the pain.

And, as a last confession, I am probably like this because I am a Masochist. I don't say this just to get attention, I am full-on clinically certified as what I just said. It affects my thoughts sexuality as well. This is something I am beginning to hate about myself, and I wonder is there a way out of it. I don't want to be like this anymore! I don't want to feel ashamed of everything I do and feel like I want to be punished and to be in pain/hurt. I don't want to feel like I have to suffer before I can enjoy my life! I don't always want to go around thinking I deserve it and enjoying pain where I get it! That's just messed up! How do I stop this?! Being like this?!

If there is anyone out there who thinks they can help me, give me some verses, or has been through my problem, please let me know. I want some posts on how to stop this guilty living and live with conviction, strength, and assurance.

Hi, Elijah19.

There is only one cure for your guilty conscience and it is found here:

Hebrews chapter 9

[1] Then verily the first covenant had also ordinances of divine service, and a worldly sanctuary.
[2] For there was a tabernacle made; the first, wherein was the candlestick, and the table, and the shewbread; which is called the sanctuary.
[3] And after the second veil, the tabernacle which is called the Holiest of all;
[4] Which had the golden censer, and the ark of the covenant overlaid round about with gold, wherein was the golden pot that had manna, and Aaron's rod that budded, and the tables of the covenant;
[5] And over it the cherubims of glory shadowing the mercyseat; of which we cannot now speak particularly.
[6] Now when these things were thus ordained, the priests went always into the first tabernacle, accomplishing the service of God.
[7] But into the second went the high priest alone once every year, not without blood, which he offered for himself, and for the errors of the people:
[8] The Holy Ghost this signifying, that the way into the holiest of all was not yet made manifest, while as the first tabernacle was yet standing:
[9] Which was a figure for the time then present, in which were offered both gifts and sacrifices, that could not make him that did the service perfect, as pertaining to the conscience;
[10] Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation.
[11] But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building;
[12] Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.
[13] For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh:
[14] How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?

In this chapter, the author was contrasting the "worldly sanctuary" (vs. 1) or the tabernacle which was set up by Moses which "served unto the example and shadow of heavenly things" (Hebrews 8:5) with "the true tabernacle, which the Lord pitched, and not man" (Hebrews 8:2) which is in heaven. The "worldly sanctuary" had a section "called the Holiest of all" (vs. 3) or "the holy of holies" which was blocked by a "second veil" (vs. 3) and into which "went the high priest alone once every year, not without blood, which he offered for himself, and for the errors of the people" (vs. 7) on the Day of Atonement. This veiled entrance "signified that the way into the holiest of all was not yet made manifest while as the first tabernacle was yet standing" (vs. 8), BUT WHEN CHRIST DIED, THINGS CHANGED DRASTICALLY. We read:

"And Jesus cried with a loud voice, and gave up the ghost. And the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom." (Mark 15:37-38)

When Jesus died, "the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom" thus signifying that THE WAY INTO THE HOLIEST OF ALL WAS NOW MADE MANIFEST AND AVAILABLE TO ALL OF US WHO BELONG TO CHRIST. IOW, we no longer need a high priest to enter into "the Holiest of all" once a year with the blood of bulls and goats which can never take away sins and never purge our guilty consciences:

Hebrews chapter 10

[1] For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect.
[2] For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins.
[3] But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year.
[4] For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.

Whereas with the Old Testament "sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year" (vs. 3), THE NEW TESTAMENT SACRIFICE OF JESUS CHRIST, OUR ETERNAL HIGH PRIEST, CAN PURGE YOUR CONSCIENCE FROM DEAD WORKS THAT YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO SERVE THE LIVING GOD. Again, we read:

Hebrews chapter 9

[11] But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building;
[12] Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.
[13] For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh:
[14] How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?

You need to get your focus off of yourself and on to Christ. You are NOT the world's "scapegoat", Elijah...JESUS IS. Confess your sins before God and allow any genuine guilt which you have to be placed upon Jesus Christ. This is why He came, Elijah...to bear your guilt and shame. Isaiah prophesied of Christ:

Isaiah chapter 53

[1] Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed?
[2] For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.
[3] He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.
[4] Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.
[5] But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.
[6] All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.
[7] He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.
[8] He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.
[9] And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth.
[10] Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.
[11] He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.
[12] Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.

Do YOU believe this report, Elijah? If you do, then understand that Jesus Christ was "wounded for YOUR transgressions, He was bruised for YOUR iniquities: the chastisement of YOUR peace was upon Him; and with His stripes YOU are healed" (vs. 5). Based upon what Christ has done for YOU, YOU now have access into "the Holiest of all" IN HEAVEN ITSELF through Jesus Christ. Yes, Elijah, the "second veil" has been removed...so go inside, via Christ, and find fellowship with your heavenly Father.

I hope that his helps.

Ephesians chapter 2

[8] For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
[9] Not of works, lest any man should boast.
[10] For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
[11] Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;
[12] That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
[13] But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
[14] For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;
[15] Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
[16] And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:
[17] And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.
[18] For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.

 

[Radius]

Hi, Elijah19.

There is only one cure for your guilty conscience and it is found here:

Hebrews chapter 9

[1] Then verily the first covenant had also ordinances of divine service, and a worldly sanctuary.
[2] For there was a tabernacle made; the first, wherein was the candlestick, and the table, and the shewbread; which is called the sanctuary.
[3] And after the second veil, the tabernacle which is called the Holiest of all;
[4] Which had the golden censer, and the ark of the covenant overlaid round about with gold, wherein was the golden pot that had manna, and Aaron's rod that budded, and the tables of the covenant;
[5] And over it the cherubims of glory shadowing the mercyseat; of which we cannot now speak particularly.
[6] Now when these things were thus ordained, the priests went always into the first tabernacle, accomplishing the service of God.
[7] But into the second went the high priest alone once every year, not without blood, which he offered for himself, and for the errors of the people:
[8] The Holy Ghost this signifying, that the way into the holiest of all was not yet made manifest, while as the first tabernacle was yet standing:
[9] Which was a figure for the time then present, in which were offered both gifts and sacrifices, that could not make him that did the service perfect, as pertaining to the conscience;
[10] Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation.
[11] But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building;
[12] Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.
[13] For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh:
[14] How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?

In this chapter, the author was contrasting the "worldly sanctuary" (vs. 1) or the tabernacle which was set up by Moses which "served unto the example and shadow of heavenly things" (Hebrews 8:5) with "the true tabernacle, which the Lord pitched, and not man" (Hebrews 8:2) which is in heaven. The "worldly sanctuary" had a section "called the Holiest of all" (vs. 3) or "the holy of holies" which was blocked by a "second veil" (vs. 3) and into which "went the high priest alone once every year, not without blood, which he offered for himself, and for the errors of the people" (vs. 7) on the Day of Atonement. This veiled entrance "signified that the way into the holiest of all was not yet made manifest while as the first tabernacle was yet standing" (vs. 8), BUT WHEN CHRIST DIED, THINGS CHANGED DRASTICALLY. We read:

"And Jesus cried with a loud voice, and gave up the ghost. And the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom." (Mark 15:37-38)

When Jesus died, "the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom" thus signifying that THE WAY INTO THE HOLIEST OF ALL WAS NOW MADE MANIFEST AND AVAILABLE TO ALL OF US WHO BELONG TO CHRIST. IOW, we no longer need a high priest to enter into "the Holiest of all" once a year with the blood of bulls and goats which can never take away sins and never purge our guilty consciences:

Hebrews chapter 10

[1] For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect.
[2] For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins.
[3] But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year.
[4] For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.

Whereas with the Old Testament "sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year" (vs. 3), THE NEW TESTAMENT SACRIFICE OF JESUS CHRIST, OUR ETERNAL HIGH PRIEST, CAN PURGE YOUR CONSCIENCE FROM DEAD WORKS THAT YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO SERVE THE LIVING GOD. Again, we read:

Hebrews chapter 9

[11] But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building;
[12] Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.
[13] For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh:
[14] How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?

You need to get your focus off of yourself and on to Christ. You are NOT the world's "scapegoat", Elijah...JESUS IS. Confess your sins before God and allow any genuine guilt which you have to be placed upon Jesus Christ. This is why He came, Elijah...to bear your guilt and shame. Isaiah prophesied of Christ:

Isaiah chapter 53

[1] Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed?
[2] For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.
[3] He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.
[4] Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.
[5] But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.
[6] All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.
[7] He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.
[8] He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.
[9] And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth.
[10] Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.
[11] He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.
[12] Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.

Do YOU believe this report, Elijah? If you do, then understand that Jesus Christ was "wounded for YOUR transgressions, He was bruised for YOUR iniquities: the chastisement of YOUR peace was upon Him; and with His stripes YOU are healed" (vs. 5). Based upon what Christ has done for YOU, YOU now have access into "the Holiest of all" IN HEAVEN ITSELF through Jesus Christ. Yes, Elijah, the "second veil" has been removed...so go inside, via Christ, and find fellowship with your heavenly Father.

I hope that his helps.

Ephesians chapter 2

[8] For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
[9] Not of works, lest any man should boast.
[10] For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
[11] Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;
[12] That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
[13] But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
[14] For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;
[15] Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
[16] And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:
[17] And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.
[18] For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.

excellent post!

 

[Saint-John]

You can have a great and powerfull victory over all things IF you...

Repent (baby's cant )( turn to God His way not some religious words though they may sound sweet )

Be Baptized ( fully immersed in water ..its what the word means !)

Receive the Holy Ghost ( first 2 are your moves this is his big finale ..what Jesus died to give )

Mr 16:17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; .............

Joh 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

something real and tangible not just words ...an experience of a lifetime..(eternal)

between you and him ..mano e mano

its not hard..and its free...


Joh 14:13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.

if you obtain the true Holy Spirit...........

 

[psychomom]

Elijah, hoping this may help you--

1 John 3:18-23
Little children, let us not love with word or with tongue, but in deed and truth.
We will know by this that we are of the truth, and will assure our heart before Him
in whatever our heart condemns us; for God is greater than our heart and knows all things.

Beloved, if our heart does not condemn us, we have confidence before God;
and whatever we ask we receive from Him, because we keep His commandments and do the things that are pleasing in His sight.

This is His commandment, that we believe in the name of His Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, just as He commanded us.

 

[Sirk]

Guilt is good if you use it as a learning tool. It sounds like what you are experiencing is shame.

 

[Ugly]

Hey guys, I really hope you can help me.

So, recently I've become very aware of a personal character flaw that has held me back significantly in life. I've always previously thought it was a virtue, but now I'm thinking it's actually a destructive vice.

You see, I have a very guilty conscience about everything. My outlook on life and how I choose my moral actions is entirely based on how guilty I feel about anything. And I always go around feeling guilty, all the time. It's not that I've actually done anything wrong (I haven't), I just always let undue guilt fall on me because I tend to believe that's the responsible action to take... bearing my and others burdens and all. But this makes me gullible to people who can use that against me and try to manipulate me.

My family tells me that instead of basing my sense of morality on a strong sense guilt, I should try to base my morality on conviction. They tell me that because Jesus died for me, my guilt has been taken away, and that now I should live in conviction of how I know right from wrong, and have the strength to stand up for or against what I know to be each. They worry that I'll get myself hurt in my relationships and in my work by having a sense of morality and social relation with others around me based entirely on my own level or personal guilt.

My loved ones even warn me that always feeling guilty about everything I do is selfish, because instead of focusing on God and others and how my actions make them feel, I am focusing on how I feel about myself. This, they tell me, is similar to what a suicide or a self-harm patient does by hurting themselves. They derive a sense of selfish pleasure from the pain, thinking it makes them more noticeable, more lovable as a pitied person, or more right with goodness because they think they deserve the pain.

And, as a last confession, I am probably like this because I am a Masochist. I don't say this just to get attention, I am full-on clinically certified as what I just said. It affects my thoughts sexuality as well. This is something I am beginning to hate about myself, and I wonder is there a way out of it. I don't want to be like this anymore! I don't want to feel ashamed of everything I do and feel like I want to be punished and to be in pain/hurt. I don't want to feel like I have to suffer before I can enjoy my life! I don't always want to go around thinking I deserve it and enjoying pain where I get it! That's just messed up! How do I stop this?! Being like this?!

If there is anyone out there who thinks they can help me, give me some verses, or has been through my problem, please let me know. I want some posts on how to stop this guilty living and live with conviction, strength, and assurance.

Circular thinking. I am a masochist, so i hate myself. I enjoy (on some level) the feelings hating myself (and guilt) bring on me, which feeds my masochism. And this is one giant circle that constantly feeds on itself. The masochism is likely part of the symptoms, not the problem. It's like a woman who is in an abusive relationship, not because she can't get out, but because she feels she deserves it. So it makes it seem easier to accept if you claim it as an identity.
So you need to change the guilt first, as you learn to accept yourself and accept Gods grace, the masochism should go away as well.

 

[Sirk]

Circular thinking. I am a masochist, so i hate myself. I enjoy (on some level) the feelings hating myself (and guilt) bring on me, which feeds my masochism. And this is one giant circle that constantly feeds on itself. The masochism is likely part of the symptoms, not the problem. It's like a woman who is in an abusive relationship, not because she can't get out, but because she feels she deserves it. So it makes it seem easier to accept if you claim it as an identity.
So you need to change the guilt first, as you learn to accept yourself and accept Gods grace, the masochism should go away as well.

Pain cycle=Experiences pain.....tells self lie.......self medicates with favorite addiction.....lather rinse repeat.

 

[Sirk]

Peace cycle=recognizes pain as real.....processes by putting a label on it.......speaks truth to self......does something positive like origami or something.

 

[4enlightment]

Hey guys, I really hope you can help me.

So, recently I've become very aware of a personal character flaw that has held me back significantly in life. I've always previously thought it was a virtue, but now I'm thinking it's actually a destructive vice.

You see, I have a very guilty conscience about everything. My outlook on life and how I choose my moral actions is entirely based on how guilty I feel about anything. And I always go around feeling guilty, all the time. It's not that I've actually done anything wrong (I haven't), I just always let undue guilt fall on me because I tend to believe that's the responsible action to take... bearing my and others burdens and all. But this makes me gullible to people who can use that against me and try to manipulate me.

My family tells me that instead of basing my sense of morality on a strong sense guilt, I should try to base my morality on conviction. They tell me that because Jesus died for me, my guilt has been taken away, and that now I should live in conviction of how I know right from wrong, and have the strength to stand up for or against what I know to be each. They worry that I'll get myself hurt in my relationships and in my work by having a sense of morality and social relation with others around me based entirely on my own level or personal guilt.

My loved ones even warn me that always feeling guilty about everything I do is selfish, because instead of focusing on God and others and how my actions make them feel, I am focusing on how I feel about myself. This, they tell me, is similar to what a suicide or a self-harm patient does by hurting themselves. They derive a sense of selfish pleasure from the pain, thinking it makes them more noticeable, more lovable as a pitied person, or more right with goodness because they think they deserve the pain.

And, as a last confession, I am probably like this because I am a Masochist. I don't say this just to get attention, I am full-on clinically certified as what I just said. It affects my thoughts sexuality as well. This is something I am beginning to hate about myself, and I wonder is there a way out of it. I don't want to be like this anymore! I don't want to feel ashamed of everything I do and feel like I want to be punished and to be in pain/hurt. I don't want to feel like I have to suffer before I can enjoy my life! I don't always want to go around thinking I deserve it and enjoying pain where I get it! That's just messed up! How do I stop this?! Being like this?!

If there is anyone out there who thinks they can help me, give me some verses, or has been through my problem, please let me know. I want some posts on how to stop this guilty living and live with conviction, strength, and assurance.

John 16:13 But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come.

 

[Elijah19]

Thank you so much for writing this, brother! I needed to hear it more than anything else, believe me. I accepted Jesus Christ as my personal Savior and Lord when I was 14 years old, and after reading this I realize that all my shame has already been turned over to him. I don't need to hurt anymore! Through Jesus, my sin has already been taken away... Nothing I do can repay that, and nothing I do can replicate it. No sin I ever commit could be covered by anything other than his blood! It is not my shame and guilt, nor my pain, which cleanses me. Salvation cannot be bought with penitent pain and guilt, but instead with the Strength and Power of Christ Almighty! Praise God for you, and thank you for posting this, JesusistheChrist. I must rely on him and not myself, and choose to live in the Joy of His salvation! I AM FREE!!!

 

[Elijah19]

Thank you. I needed to hear this...

 

[Jeff_56]

Repent (baby's cant )( turn to God His way not some religious words though they may sound sweet )
Be Baptized ( fully immersed in water ..its what the word means !)
.....its not hard..and its free...
John 14:13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son..

yes, simply do as Yahshua always says to do.
without repentance, there's no remission of sin.
after repentance, and starting to do what Yahshua says to do- to live HIS life, Hebrews shows clearly how we have a clear free conscience even at the throne in heaven !

 

[JesusistheChrist]

Thank you so much for writing this, brother! I needed to hear it more than anything else, believe me. I accepted Jesus Christ as my personal Savior and Lord when I was 14 years old, and after reading this I realize that all my shame has already been turned over to him. I don't need to hurt anymore! Through Jesus, my sin has already been taken away... Nothing I do can repay that, and nothing I do can replicate it. No sin I ever commit could be covered by anything other than his blood! It is not my shame and guilt, nor my pain, which cleanses me. Salvation cannot be bought with penitent pain and guilt, but instead with the Strength and Power of Christ Almighty! Praise God for you, and thank you for posting this, JesusistheChrist. I must rely on him and not myself, and choose to live in the Joy of His salvation! I AM FREE!!!

Hi, Elijah.

You'll need to remember what I bold-faced for the rest of your life. Even as Christians, we will inevitably mess up at times and when we do then the cure is godly sorrow which leads to repentance (II Corinthians 7:8-11) AND THE SPRINKLING OF THE BLOOD OF JESUS TO CLEANSE US. Peter wrote:

"Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied."
(I Peter 1:2)

God desires that we be sanctified or set apart unto Him by His Spirit (we can never do it in our own strength alone) and that we obey Him and His Word and when we fall short of the same there is but one thing which can cleanse us and that one thing is the "sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ":

Nothing but the blood - Robert Lowry

What can wash away my sin?
Nothing but the blood of Jesus;
What can make me whole again?
Nothing but the blood of Jesus.

Refrain:
Oh! precious is the flow
That makes me white as snow;
No other fount I know,
Nothing but the blood of Jesus.

For my pardon, this I see,
Nothing but the blood of Jesus;
For my cleansing this my plea,
Nothing but the blood of Jesus.

Nothing can for sin atone,
Nothing but the blood of Jesus;
Naught of good that I have done,
Nothing but the blood of Jesus.

This is all my hope and peace,
Nothing but the blood of Jesus;
This is all my righteousness,
Nothing but the blood of Jesus.

Now by this I’ll overcome—
Nothing but the blood of Jesus;
Now by this I’ll reach my home—
Nothing but the blood of Jesus.

Glory! Glory! This I sing—
Nothing but the blood of Jesus,
All my praise for this I bring—
Nothing but the blood of Jesus.