Pope Wants Freedom Of Speech Limited

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I've probably read more history than you. Again, there is no such thing as free speech for one and even more generally there is no such thing as freedom in this world. For two, even in the ancient sources the Bible is the most prevalent collection of books by leaps and bounds with the Homeric Epics coming in a very distant second. Knowing history you would know outside Israel, and even inside Israel during certain era, that many times people tried to ban the Bible or suppress it. They all did fail.

Even in modern times the Bible is banned in a ridiculous amount of countries. Yet that doesn't stop anyone from obtaining and reading it if they want to.

But why did they fail? It couldn't be that good people sacrificed their live so others could have it....even by the sword.
 
A person with "a love for Jesus" would never hold the attitude, much less verbalize that a mom, dad's, brother, sister etc etc died in vain. Would you say that to their face...that their son's or daughters sacrifice isn't good enough for you? Your credibility and "your love for Jesus" is phony as a 3 dollar bill.

I would tell those people don't join this war or they run that risk of dying in vain. You talk about their sacrifice, to whom are they being sacrificed and for what? I know plenty of people who have come out of this war that deeply distrust the government, for both good reasons (that the US has rescinded many of the fake freedoms it promises to its slaves) and even wrong reasons (a shocking number of vets think 9/11 was done by the US.)

Furthermore not one of them signed up to defend fake freedom or Christianity or any of that propaganda malarky. Either they were poor and had no where to go or they bought into the recruiter's bullcrap. It is indeed sad so many people I know have seen or have got mutilated and killed for absolutely nothing.
 
But why did they fail? It couldn't be that good people sacrificed their live so others could have it....even by the sword.

They failed because even when they ban the Bible people still read it while it is supposed to be banned of course.
 
I would tell those people don't join this war or they run that risk of dying in vain. You talk about their sacrifice, to whom are they being sacrificed and for what? I know plenty of people who have come out of this war that deeply distrust the government, for both good reasons (that the US has rescinded many of the fake freedoms it promises to its slaves) and even wrong reasons (a shocking number of vets think 9/11 was done by the US.)

Furthermore not one of them signed up to defend fake freedom or Christianity or any of that propaganda malarky. Either they were poor and had no where to go or they bought into the recruiter's bullcrap. It is indeed sad so many people I know have seen or have got mutilated and killed for absolutely nothing.

There is a whole bunch of crosses in the ground on the beaches of Europe that disagree with your assertion that only Jesus died for you.
 
I would tell those people don't join this war or they run that risk of dying in vain. You talk about their sacrifice, to whom are they being sacrificed and for what? I know plenty of people who have come out of this war that deeply distrust the government, for both good reasons (that the US has rescinded many of the fake freedoms it promises to its slaves) and even wrong reasons (a shocking number of vets think 9/11 was done by the US.)

Furthermore not one of them signed up to defend fake freedom or Christianity or any of that propaganda malarky. Either they were poor and had no where to go or they bought into the recruiter's bullcrap. It is indeed sad so many people I know have seen or have got mutilated and killed for absolutely nothing.

And to even add to this. Ask yourself why so many coming back from the War of Terror with PTSD. Ask yourself why they committing suicide so much. Ask yourself why there so much intra-military violence against eachother.

It ain't nothing to wonder too far at. It ain't no secret some of the biggest opponents of this war are vets themselves. I ain't glad to government because they sent my people to fight their messed up war for them. I'm glad to God they survived it and returned.
 
There is a whole bunch of crosses in the ground on the beaches of Europe that disagree with your assertion that only Jesus died for you.

They didn't die for me, they died because they were sent to die.

One of my best friend's grandpas whom passed away last year was at Normandy and he saw the carnage and told how it was evil beyond imagination. One of the biggest anti-war people I ever met.
 
I would tell those people don't join this war or they run that risk of dying in vain. You talk about their sacrifice, to whom are they being sacrificed and for what? I know plenty of people who have come out of this war that deeply distrust the government, for both good reasons (that the US has rescinded many of the fake freedoms it promises to its slaves) and even wrong reasons (a shocking number of vets think 9/11 was done by the US.)

Furthermore not one of them signed up to defend fake freedom or Christianity or any of that propaganda malarky. Either they were poor and had no where to go or they bought into the recruiter's bullcrap. It is indeed sad so many people I know have seen or have got mutilated and killed for absolutely nothing.

No matter if the purpose for war was "false flag" or not...the people who volunteered did so out of an obligation for the people who died that day. They did so because they believed in something bigger than themselves. They risked themselves to defend those could not defend themselves. Who are you to so flippantly take that away from them? While I may agree that there is a sinister thing going on at the upper echelons of this world.....tearing at the soul of loved ones who want to remember that their son or daughter died for a purpose is just plain mean.
 
They failed because even when they ban the Bible people still read it while it is supposed to be banned of course.
Yea they failed because men knew that free-speech would set people free from bondage and begin to publish the bible under the danger of death.
 
They didn't die for me, they died because they were sent to die.

One of my best friend's grandpas whom passed away last year was at Normandy and he saw the carnage and told how it was evil beyond imagination. One of the biggest anti-war people I ever met.

Oh really....If America had not stopped the Germans the carnage would have been unimaginable. The germans were close to an n bomb. You'd be living in a nuclear wasteland if you were alive at all.... if it were not for the greatest generation.
 
No matter if the purpose for war was "false flag" or not...the people who volunteered did so out of an obligation for the people who died that day. They did so because they believed in something bigger than themselves. They risked themselves to defend those could not defend themselves. Who are you to so flippantly take that away from them? While I may agree that there is a sinister thing going on at the upper echelons of this world.....tearing at the soul of loved ones who want to remember that their son or daughter died for a purpose is just plain mean.

Nah, they got spun a yarn. Man I was in the recruiters office when my friend signed up for the Marines. I saw how they play people into going off to fight their war for them. It's real sly how they do it too. They got these tiles which say crap like "adventure" or "financial security" or "free college", etc. Then they have the person they are trying to seduce arrange the tiles in which order they think best. Then they give them this big old yarn about how they can have all that stuff and more if they just sign a piece of paper that makes them property of the US government.

As for 9/11 it wasn't an inside job, al-qaeda really did it. Though they might have had help from a certain government that America sells itself out for if the talk about the missing 28 pages of 9/11 Commission is true. The fact so many vets from this war think 9/11 was an inside job is very revealing though. My same Marine friend will not be convinced it wasn't.
 
Glad we who have fought can and have defended the right of those who don't, to speak their minds in liberty...and Thank God we still have many young brave American boys who have enough sense to stand up to the monsters in this world like the Nazis and Islam. And thank God we have rights and people who still have the courage to call evil what it is..evil!
 
Oh really....If America had not stopped the Germans the carnage would have been unimaginable. The germans were close to an n bomb. You'd be living in a nuclear wasteland if you were alive at all.... if it were not for the greatest generation.

Everyone talks about the nazis so much as if America was the only nation to fight the nazis. You know in truth it wasn't America that bore the brunt of the war with the nazis right? Nor did they fight and die for me. They fought and died cause they were sent to do it with no choice.

Guess what country fought the nazis more and lost the most people. I'll give you a hint:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-6CesO8YPs

[video=youtube;P-6CesO8YPs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-6CesO8YPs[/video]
 
Everyone talks about the nazis so much as if America was the only nation to fight the nazis. You know in truth it wasn't America that bore the brunt of the war with the nazis right? Nor did they fight and die for me. They fought and died cause they were sent to do it with no choice.

Guess what country fought the nazis more and lost the most people. I'll give you a hint:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-6CesO8YPs

[video=youtube;P-6CesO8YPs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-6CesO8YPs[/video]

Interesting that u would post the USSR national anthem.....hmmm.
 
Interesting that u would post the USSR national anthem.....hmmm.

Just the facts of history. That be the nation that fought the nazis the most and suffered the most casualties in World War 2.

You be assured they didn't fight for yours or my freedom and they certainly did not fight for Christianity. In fact their most successful general Zhukov was denied a Christian burial because of the sick atheist regime of the USSR.
 
Yea...this guy seems to have a agenda ....For some reason I don't trust him :(

My agenda is forthright and I have declared it to you for days now. It is to stop you warmongers from seducing my brethren into fighting and dying in vain in your war between Western pagans and Islamic pagans.
 
My agenda is forthright and I have declared it to you for days now. It is to stop you warmongers from seducing my brethren into fighting and dying in vain in your war between Western pagans and Islamic pagans.
Well you can call yourself a pagan...but the folks I know and love here in the good ole USA are for the most part Christian...and just as we had to defend our country from the pagans Nazis...its time to defend ourselves from these pagan Islamist.... And you can call justice a vain thing if you want? But justice and freedom have made us a great Christian nation...above all other nations we are blessed because we have liberty to preach and believe the gospel of Jesus Christ.
 
Well you can call yourself a pagan...but the folks I know and love here in the good ole USA are for the most part Christian...and just as we had to defend our country from the pagans Nazis...its time to defend ourselves from these pagan Islamist.... And you can call justice a vain thing if you want? But justice and freedom have made us a great Christian nation...above all other nations we are blessed because we have liberty to preach and believe the gospel of Jesus Christ.

Then stop trying to seduce them into fighting your war.

Again you talk about justice, but your justice is to have Christians killed in a war between a nation that is against Christianity just so they can fight Islam for you? What sort of justice is that? Your justice is broken.

Again, what freedom? There isn't any freedom in this whole world. Freedom is absence from the world.
 
Well you can call yourself a pagan...but the folks I know and love here in the good ole USA are for the most part Christian...and just as we had to defend our country from the pagans Nazis...its time to defend ourselves from these pagan Islamist.... And you can call justice a vain thing if you want? But justice and freedom have made us a great Christian nation...above all other nations we are blessed because we have liberty to preach and believe the gospel of Jesus Christ.


That is funny because every time the thought of war has been brought up here in the U.S., the American public has stepped up and shut it down. The majority of the people in the U.S. want to stay out of another war. Remember back when Obama first took office he wanted to go into Syria, the American public stepped up and told him no. He then listened and backed out of it. Same as every time McCain, Romney, or any other person in political office as stepped up to speak about sending our troops into a war effort. The American public has stepped up and shut them all down, as McCain was even called out by some to be tried for treason..........
 
That is funny because every time the thought of war has been brought up here in the U.S., the American public has stepped up and shut it down. The majority of the people in the U.S. want to stay out of another war. Remember back when Obama first took office he wanted to go into Syria, the American public stepped up and told him no. He then listened and backed out of it. Same as every time McCain, Romney, or any other person in political office as stepped up to speak about sending our troops into a war effort. The American public has stepped up and shut them all down, as McCain was even called out by some to be tried for treason..........

Sad thing is we are actually now officially involved in the Syrian theater of this war. America has been spending over 1 billion dollars to fund Syrian rebels for the past two years at the least. I had seen earlier on the news they now plan on even training them. There goes America again claiming to fight for all this claptrap propaganda while funding the very same people that will be fighting them the next day.

Of course they call them the "moderate rebels" to make it sound like it's all okay. However anyone that has seen the very same videos these rebels themselves post knows they are far from moderate.