Pope Wants Freedom Of Speech Limited

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GodIsSalvation said:
Justice will come for them at the end of the world for justice is not of the world. Behold I will give you a true sword.

As it is touching on Islam, your form of justice resembles the verses of the koran very much. This is why bullets and bombs will not avail you against Islam for you have played into the very law of Islam when you do such.

As it is if you trully want to defeat Islam and you trully love the people that are enslaved and oppressed by it remember this.

"Love your enemies and pray for them."

That is the verse that defeats Islam for it is the verse that defies all Islam. That is the verse that has led many to be freed from Islam. We will continue this conversation at a later time. Think on it for a night.
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Love don't let criminals run loose...love upholds justice...love protects the weak from the wicked...This is love and Gods Will...
Re 13:10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword
 
kennethcadwell said:
How else do you turn one over to satan to destroy his flesh, so that his spirit can be saved ???
This is speaking as in it can be applied to the corrupt justice system that we have now, rather it be political or judicial. When you catch somebody doing wrong you hand them over to the corrupt system, and let them deal with it. In by doing this hopefully it will make them realize the wrong and turn from it, saving their spirit.....
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Kenneth your talking about two completely different things and I im tired of trying to explain the bible to you...you seem to just make it mean whatever you dream up... and clearly its not what you tried to make it...so for once just admit your wrong instead of making up more nonsense to cover your last nonsense.

If God would turn Christians over to the devil for punishment or over to the sword of justice ...how much more these criminals islamist?
 
Mitspa said:
Kenneth your talking about two completely different things and I im tired of trying to explain the bible to you...you seem to just make it mean whatever you dream up... and clearly its not what you tried to make it...so for once just admit your wrong instead of making up more nonsense to cover your last nonsense.

If God would turn Christians over to the devil for punishment or over to the sword of justice ...how much more these criminals islamist?
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Just because you deny the scripture does not mean I do, so you can keep your demeaning commits to yourself as it shows you still have room for the Spirit to work in your life. As you still have not gotten a handle on how to be patient, and handle others in a loving and respectful way......

Pray for you always...........Hopefully the Holy Spirit will bring you around.
 
kennethcadwell said:
Just because you deny the scripture does not mean I do, so you can keep your demeaning commits to yourself as it shows you still have room for the Spirit to work in your life. As you still have not gotten a handle on how to be patient, and handle others in a loving and respectful way......

Pray for you always...........Hopefully the Holy Spirit will bring you around.
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Like I said you seem to just make stuff up out of thin air....and its clearly not calling the justice system a work of satan...that is just silly.
 
GodIsSalvation said:
Aye indeed

Therefore I say again, don't fight this war. Let them fight their own war.
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here is Gods Will for criminals...

Ro 13:4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.

And when God brings justice on these people...we can all rejoice in His good work.
 
Mitspa said:
here is Gods Will for criminals...

Ro 13:4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.

And when God brings justice on these people...we can all rejoice in His good work.
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Aye indeed. Those whom did mock did they get slain? And those whom did murder then the innocent jewry, did they get slain?

Therefore, why seek you more blood?

Romans 10:1-4

1 Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
 
GodIsSalvation said:
Aye indeed. Those whom did mock did they get slain? And those whom did murder then the innocent jewry, did they get slain?

Therefore, why seek you more blood?

Romans 10:1-4

1 Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
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Where not talking about Jews we are talking about those that kill Jews...The love and mercy of God was given to change the hearts of man not to approve their criminal behavior....AND THE SCRIPTURE CLEARLY SAYS...

he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.

dO THESE PEOPLE DOETH EVIL? YES THEN God has a system of justice for them called the Armed Forces of the United States of America :) Ordained by God to bring justice and Gods wrath upon Islam....watch and see
 
DONT MESS WITH OUR FREEDOM

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[h=1]Matthew 16:25[/h] [SUP]25 [/SUP]For whoever wishes to save his life will lose it; but whoever loses his life for My sake will find it.
 
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Mitspa said:
Like I said you seem to just make stuff up out of thin air....and its clearly not calling the justice system a work of satan...that is just silly.
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Well then when the antichrist comes to power, go ahead and follow him and his system taking his mark and see if you are still end up saved. Plus whenever our government passes a bill that is against God's will and tries to make you follow it, go ahead and support it and abide by it and see where it gets you.....
 
didymos said:
Oop, he did it again. Frankie says:

'... there are limits to freedom of speech, especially when it insults or ridicules someone's faith, in comments that the Vatican later said Friday did not mean justifying the attack on the satirical French magazine Charlie Hebdo. Francis spoke about the Paris terror attacks while en route to the Philippines on Thursday, defending free speech as not only a fundamental human right but a duty to speak one's mind for the sake of the common good.
But he said there were limits...

He said such horrific violence in God's name couldn't be justified and was an "aberration." But he said a reaction of some sort was to be expected...'

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/A/AS_REL_FRANCE_ATTACKS_POPE?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

Does this mean he wants us to show understand the motives of the terrorists? What this pope should have done is wear a 'Je suis Charlie' in public. You're either 100% in favour freedom of speech or you're not.
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Why shouldn't we understand the motives of the terrorists? Surely, the occurrence at Charlie Hedbo was atrocious, but this is a globalized world, and we in the West take it for granted that satirically mocking people in digital or printed media is going to be received throughout the world as humorous. Well, Charlie Hedbo shows it isn't.

There's a massive difference between being an advocate of free speech (as I am) and recognizing that such a freedom comes with a huge amount of responsibility. If you're going to give a metaphorical two fingers to jihadists in a globalized society in the Middle of perhaps the most critical point in history in regards to terrorism, world religion and the globalization of society, what do you expect to happen?

Nobody deserves that fate for writing an article, but perhaps it might make people think about the way in which the real world works. It's a changing place, and the old rules no longer apply.

New approach please.
 
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kennethcadwell said:
Well then when the antichrist comes to power, go ahead and follow him and his system taking his mark and see if you are still end up saved. Plus whenever our government passes a bill that is against God's will and tries to make you follow it, go ahead and support it and abide by it and see where it gets you.....
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GodIsSalvation said:
Aye indeed. Those whom did mock did they get slain? And those whom did murder then the innocent jewry, did they get slain?

Therefore, why seek you more blood?

Romans 10:1-4

1 Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
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Some did...but the Jews and muslims are not the same, we love the Jews because they are Gods children according to the promise made to the Fathers...but they are enemies for sake of the gospel...

But islam has proven itself to be nothing more than a group of criminals out to rape and murder ....and the sword of justice should be laid upon them.... " think not that I came to bring peace, but a sword"
 
Human said:
Why shouldn't we understand the motives of the terrorists? Surely, the occurrence at Charlie Hedbo was atrocious, but this is a globalized world, and we in the West take it for granted that satirically mocking people in digital or printed media is going to be received throughout the world as humorous. Well, Charlie Hedbo shows it isn't.

There's a massive difference between being an advocate of free speech (as I am) and recognizing that such a freedom comes with a huge amount of responsibility. If you're going to give a metaphorical two fingers to jihadists in a globalized society in the Middle of perhaps the most critical point in history in regards to terrorism, world religion and the globalization of society, what do you expect to happen?

Nobody deserves that fate for writing an article, but perhaps it might make people think about the way in which the real world works. It's a changing place, and the old rules no longer apply.

New approach please.
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The rules and laws do apply ...if we uphold the rules and defend our rights....If we allow criminals to make the rules we will have a society like those where islam has taken over...poor and bitter places....cursed by the yoke of satan!
 
kennethcadwell said:
Well then when the antichrist comes to power, go ahead and follow him and his system taking his mark and see if you are still end up saved. Plus whenever our government passes a bill that is against God's will and tries to make you follow it, go ahead and support it and abide by it and see where it gets you.....
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What?


Ro 13:1 ¶ Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.
3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:
4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.
 
prodigal said:
DONT MESS WITH OUR FREEDOM

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Matthew 16:25

[SUP]25 [/SUP]For whoever wishes to save his life will lose it; but whoever loses his life for My sake will find it.
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Think not that I came to bring peace, but a sword!

A man who would not defend his own family and people is worse than an infidel.
 
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