Who is Babylon the Great Harlot?

eternally-gratefull · Jan 19, 2015

the only thing which is the same, is both are lost.

Otherwise, they do nto even look the same.

Not to mention. the world hates the one. and loves the other.

JesusistheChrist · Jan 19, 2015

kennethcadwell said:

Will somebody else here please help this man? He said that I used Revelation 17:6 to make a point about Jesus dying in Jerusalem when I did no such thing. Then I showed him that I actually cited something from Revelation chapter 11 to make that point and he still didn't get it. To make matters worse, he cited something in which I NEVER MENTIONED JESUS DYING IN JERUSALEM and he thinks that he "showed me how I did use that scripture to make my point". The guy needs help. He apparently can't even read English and comprehend the same, but now he's foretelling the future...even though, by his own testimony, God forbade him from doing the same.

He's all yours...

djness · Jan 19, 2015

I have learned one thing from this thread for sure.
Can you guess what it is?
Christians shouldn't be allowed on the internet.

kennethcadwell · Jan 19, 2015

JesusistheChrist said:

Once again there you go twisting what I just said, as what I said is how you used Revelation 17:6 and chapter 18 to use for your defense of calling Jerusalem....Babylon.

kennethcadwell · Jan 19, 2015

djness said:

No we should be on the internet, the problem is those who call themselves Christians. Yet constantly demean, belittle, call names, and use unedifying words toward others just because they do not agree with them. People as Christians need to learn how to do what Paul and especially James said, and that is learn to bridle their tongue's.

JesusistheChrist · Jan 19, 2015

kennethcadwell said:

Which, of course, is a change in what you repeatedly said prior to that. Seriously, are you too proud to just admit that you were in error? For crying out loud, it's right there for everybody here to read...

Anyhow, I'm through wasting time on this thread. I've already said what needs to be said and you can all do with it whatever you choose to do with it.

I am still hoping, however, to start a thread on "The Israel of God" some time soon in that that issue has a lot to do with this one.

Btw, calling a teacher of heresy such as yourself a "heretic" is not "demeaning", " belittling", "name calling" or "unedifying". In fact, it's simply stating the truth. Anyhow, seeing how God Himself told you not to be a prophecy teacher (for obvious reasons) and seeing how you're presently here seeking to do the same, I don't expect that anything that I can ever say to you will persuade you towards the truth.

Unsubscribing...

Chopper · Jan 19, 2015

eternally-gratefull said:

Ooohh... the mother of Harlots? that one was already answered in pointing out the Roman Catholic Church, and thier claims to be higher authority than the Bible, and their attempts to change times and laws, as well as stating any other churches who observe their "mark" of authority in the attempt to change the Sabbath to the first day of the week as opposed to the seventh, to which there is absolutely ZERO scriptural authority to do so, and is also in direct opposite of the sabbath being the seal between Yahuwah and man, that He is their Elohim, and the Sabbath is the seal or mark of who are His children.

American Catholic Quarterly Review (January 1883):
Sunday...is purely a creation of the Catholic Church.

Catholic American Sentinel (June 1893):
Sunday...It is a law of the Catholic Church alone...

Pope Leo XIII, Praeclara Gratulationis Publicae (The Reunion of Christendom), June 20, 1894:  
We hold upon this earth the place of God Almighty.

“Pope,” Ferraris’ Ecclesiastic Dictionary:
The Pope is of so great dignity and so exalted that he is not a mere man, but as it were God, and the vicar of God.

Letter from C.F. Thomas, Chancellor of Cardinal Gibbons on October 28, 1895:
Of course the Catholic Church claims that the change was her act…And the act is a MARK of her ecclesiastical power and authority in religious matters.

Our Sunday Visitor (April 18, 1915): 3:
The letters inscribed in the Pope’s miter are these: VICARIUS FILLII DEI, which is the Latin for, “Vicar of the Son of God.”

Chancellor Albert Smith for Cardinal of Baltimore Archdiocese, letter dated February 10, 1920:
If Protestants would follow the Bible, they should worship God on the Sabbath day by God is Saturday. In keeping the Sunday, they are following a law of the Catholic Church.

Catholic Record (September 1, 1923):
The [catholic] Church is above the Bible, and this transference of the Sabbath observance is proof of that fact.

John A. O'Brien, The Faith of Millions: the Credentials of the Catholic Religion Revised Edition (Our Sunday Visitor Publishing, 1974): 400-401:
But since Saturday, not Sunday, is specified in the Bible, isn't it curious that non-Catholics, who claim to take their religion directly from the Bible and not from the Church, observe Sunday instead of Saturday? Yes, of course, it is inconsistent; but this change was made about fifteen centuries before Protestantism was born, and by that time the custom was universally observed. They have continued the custom even though it rests upon the authority of the Catholic Church and not upon and explicit text in the Bible. That observance remains as a reminder of the Mother Church from which the non-Catholic sects broke away—like a boy running away from home but still carrying in his pocket a picture of his mother or a lock of her hair.

Stephen Keenan, Catholic—Doctrinal Catechism 3rd Edition: 174:
Question: Have you any other way of proving the Church has power to institute festivals of precept?

Answer: Had she not such power, she could not have done that in which all modern religionists agree with her, she could not have substituted the observance of Sunday the 1st day of the week, for the observance of Saturday the 7th day, a change for which there is no Scriptural authority.i

Catholic Priest T. Enright, CSSR, Kansas City, MO:
It was the holy Catholic Church that changed the day of rest from Saturday to Sunday, the 1st day of the week. And it not only compelled all to keep Sunday, but at the Council of Laodicea, AD 364, anathematized those who kept the Sabbath and urged all persons to labor on the 7th day under penalty of anathema.

Then we also need to pay attention to the colors the RCC uses as mentioned in the scriptures as well and there is even more when digging deeper.

kennethcadwell · Jan 19, 2015

JesusistheChrist said:

Yes it is because you do not know where my heart is, and all prophecy teaching to this point is all assumption to this point. To act like you have all truth in prophecy, and anybody that does not see eye to eye with you you call a heretic. Which would be misplaced and uncalled for name calling.

djness · Jan 19, 2015

kennethcadwell said:

I agree. You know my other thread on that. Unfortunately I see it as the kid in the class who keeps drawing on the wall with the crayons.
Nobody gets the crayons anymore.

I'm ok with people disagreeing but we are making it pretty easy for the unbeliever to say ''They aren't different.''

Hizikyah · Jan 19, 2015

Hizikyah said:

eternally-gratefull said:

Esoteric and exoteric...

For they are all kabbalistis at the top... even the "muslims"

....cube worship...planned thievery....most have no clue....

eternally-gratefull · Jan 19, 2015

Chopper said:

exactly. and where does the roman catholic church (harlot) sit?

that great city by the sea, with 7 hills. also known as rome. who is the great harlot. and the city which will be destroyed. Not jerusalem.

yes, I agree!

eternally-gratefull · Jan 19, 2015

Hizikyah said:

may be true.

when when compaired to roman pagainsim, which is worldwide in scope. and the whole world get rich by selling her goods. They do not even compair.

kennethcadwell · Jan 19, 2015

Chopper said:

I use to believe this way too about Rome and even the U.S., until I actually got into biblical studies. All the descriptions for Babylon does not fit the U.S. or Rome. The only place all the descriptions fit the best is Saudi Arabia. Rome will play a part but only as the false prophet in the 10 kingdoms that follows the antichrist. Rome does not destroy itself, nor does the antichrist destroy the false prophet. So this would have to place Babylon somewhere else, and we see Saudi Arabia home of the Islamic religion that has been responsible for killing tons of Christians and Jews.....

And once again its capital sea port city Mecca, means mother.............

kennethcadwell · Jan 19, 2015

eternally-gratefull said:

Mecca (mother) in Saudi Arabia sits on 7 hills too............

eternally-gratefull · Jan 19, 2015

kennethcadwell said:

true, but mecca looks nothing like paganism, or babylon, nor are the kings of the world getting rich by selling her goods. Nor does it resemble in any way shape or form the mother child

Hizikyah · Jan 19, 2015

kennethcadwell said:

"pyramid scheme"

satan>Jerusalem>Rome>Mecca>bankers in London>bankers in NY>continually>down>the>line>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

"pyramid scheme"

kennethcadwell · Jan 19, 2015

eternally-gratefull said:

Yes they are as the main source of oil comes from there, and everything else that Saudi Arabia gets that have to buy and import from other countries. Watch this video as it really breaks it down better than I can;

[video=youtube;uY20IFaWlsQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uY20IFaWlsQ[/video]

kennethcadwell · Jan 19, 2015

Hizikyah said:

Watch the video in post #437 it really breaks down how Saudi Arabia and its sea port capital Mecca fits the bill of Babylon more then anywhere else. Plus like I said the catholic churches pope fits the bill of the false prophet, that follows the antichrist and does not get destroyed by the antichrist. The bible says the antichrist destroys Babylon, and Rome follows him to do this destruction......

Hizikyah · Jan 19, 2015

eternally-gratefull said:

Mecca is there too..

eternally-gratefull said:

[h=1]List of countries by oil production[/h]

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[TR]
[TH][/TH]
[TH]Country[/TH]
[TH]Production (bbl/day)[/TH]
[TH]Share of
World %[/TH]
[TH]Date of
Information[/TH]
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[TD]—[/TD]
[TD="align: center"] World[/TD]
[TD]84,951,200[/TD]
[TD]100%[/TD]
[TD]2014 est.[SUP][6][/SUP][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1[/TD]
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Russia[/TD]
[TD]10,580,000[/TD]
[TD]14.05%[/TD]
[TD]2014 est.[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]2[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]

Saudi Arabia[/TD]
[TD]9,693,200[/TD]
[TD]13.09%[/TD]
[TD]2013 est.[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]3
[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]

United States[/TD]
[TD]7,441,200[/TD]
[TD]12.23%
[/TD]
[TD]2013 est.[SUP][7
[/SUP]

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eternally-gratefull said:

[video=youtube;igoydzFZZX0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igoydzFZZX0[/video]

satan>Jerusalem>Rome>Mecca>bankers in London>bankers in NY>continually>down>the>line>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Revelation 13:7
"Also it was allowed to make war on the saints and to conquer them. And authority was given it over every tribe and people and language and nation,"

eternally-gratefull · Jan 19, 2015

kennethcadwell said:

No. the middle east is getting rich.

Mecca is not babylon. it looks nothing like paganism.

read the OT things of Babylon, greece, rome, Baal worship etc etc.

that is the harlot and the harlot will look like her.

Islam has no power. they do not even have an army, all they have is a few poor kids who think they will get many virgivns if they kill people by killing themselves.

Who is Babylon the Great Harlot?

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