Romans 14:22-23
22 Hast thou faith? have it to thyself before God. Happy is he that condemneth not himself in that thing which he alloweth.
23 And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin.
That's ok, I have faith. Thats why I work at the law. Because I have faith and now I can be subject to it...
faith is word #G4102 - pistisStrong's Concordance
pistis: faith, faithfulness
Original Word: πίστις, εως, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: pistis
Phonetic Spelling: (pis'-tis)
Short Definition:
faith, belief, trust
Definition: faith,
belief, trust, confidence; fidelity, faithfulness.
After our back and forth IDK if you being sarcastic here or, but I can say personally that I read the Law to physically get it in my brain so He can do the rest, example; I had heard about the Messiah but I read in detail to know more about Him and what He said, for me same goes for the Law or more accurately Instructions.
But I do agree "anything that is not of faith is sin"
That is why I believe this principle;
Yaaqob 2:26, "For just as the body without the spirit is dead, so the faith without works is dead also."
Faith + no works = dead
Works + no faith = dead
We need faith and works, AND OUR FAITH AND OUR WORKS HAS TO BE POINTED AT THE RIGHT DIRECTION
[SUP]11 [/SUP]But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.
Uh-oh. Working at the Law is not of faith and therefore sin?? I thought those were His Instructions. How can I do His Will if I am not working at the Law??
Uh-oh! Someone misunderstood Paul! Well lets see:
Ephesians 6:2-3, "
Honor your father and mother; which is
the first commandment with a promise: That it may be well with you, and you may live long on the earth."
Uh-oh. Working at the Law is not of faith and therefore sin?? I thought those were His Instructions. How can I do His Will if I am not working at the Law??
Why is Paul teaching us a Commandment, word for word from the OT then?
Galatians 3:13,(KJV) "Christ hath
redeemed us from the curse of the Law, being made a curse for us, for it is written, Cursed is everyone who hangeth on a tree."
1 Corinthians 7:19, "For neither circumcision counts for anything nor uncircumcision,
but keeping the commandments of God?"
Why is Paul teaching obeying Commandments are right?
Acts 24:14, "But
I confess this to you, that after the way which they call heresy--
so I worship the Father of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the Law and in the Prophets."
Why is Paul teaching us he believes the Law and worships accordingly if it is "not of faith"?
Romans 7:25, "Thanks be to Yahweh, I have deliverance through Yahshua Messiah our King! So then,
with this same mind,
I myself serve the Law of Yahweh,
while in the flesh that is yet subject to the law of sin."
Acts 21:24, "Take them, and be purified with them, and pay their expenses so that they may shave their heads.
Then everyone will know that those things they were informed about you (forsaking the Law),
were lies, and
that you, yourself, walk orderly, and keep the Law."
So we either have a contradiction or a misunderstanding, lets look at a few more verses as Paul can "be hard to understand...twisted into Lawlessness" (2 peter 3:15-17) as in a number of places he himself said he followed the Creator's Law;
[SUP]11 [/SUP]But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.
Uh-oh. Working at the Law is not of faith and therefore sin?? I thought those were His Instructions. How can I do His Will if I am not working at the Law??
Galatians 3:10-14, "10For all who
rely on works of the law are under a curse;
for it is written, “
Cursed be everyone who does not abide by all things written in the Book of the Law, and do them.” 11Now it is
evident that no one is
justified before God by the law, for “The righteous shall live by faith.”d 12But the law is not of faith, rather “The one who does them shall live by them.” 13Christ
redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us—for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who is hanged on a tree”— 14so that in Christ Jesus the blessing of Abraham might come to the Gentiles, so that we might receive the promised Spirite through faith."
This passage and virtually Galatians as a whole was written to peole who, *apparently* thought their own works could save them.... There is a big gap between "own works saving" and "obedience to what He says... The Creator's standard of love:
Romans 13:9-10, "For
the commandments: You shall not commit adultery, You shall not murder, You shall not steal, You shall not bring false testimony, You shall not covet, and
all other commandments are summed up in these Laws; namely: You must love your neighbor as yourself. Love does no wrong to a neighbor; therefore
love is the fulfilling of the
law."
summed up is word #G346 - anakephalaioó
Strong's Concordance
anakephalaioó: to sum up, gather up
Original Word: ἀνακεφαλαιόω
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: anakephalaioó
Phonetic Spelling: (an-ak-ef-al-ah'-ee-om-ahee)
Short Definition:
I sum up, summarize, recapitulate, gather up in one
Definition:
I sum up, summarize, recapitulate, gather up in one
So how can we reconcile just the few verses quoted of Paul here? The Galatians as a whole was written to people who, *apparently* thought their own works could save them.... Do we then walk off the path or make our own standard of what love is because of their error? Or do we learn from that lesson and know noting we can do of our own works can save us, but rather use the mercy granted to us by the Most High as a spring board to follow what He says, whatever one thinks that might be....
[SUP]37 [/SUP]Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
[SUP]38 [/SUP]This is the first and great commandment.
[SUP]39 [/SUP]And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
[SUP]40 [/SUP]On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
Clearly, the Lord Jesus is telling us to work at the Law, so Paul must be wrong. Its ok that Paul is wrong because Peter tells us that Paul is hard to understand anyway.
No Yahshua/Jesus is explain the ONLY TRUE standard of love..... Not my standard, your standard, the gas station attendants standard, the politicians standard, or *insert anyone here* standard, but
the KEY points of the standard of the Creator....
[SUP]22 [/SUP]But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
[SUP]23 [/SUP]Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
This is the fruit of working at the Law? Well why is Love one of the fruits if my working at the law is what has produced love? I am the one that has decided to love God and I am the one who has decided to love my neighbor. I decide whether I will follow Jesus Christ and I am the one that has determined to run the race and persevere.
Working at the Law? I guess this can be thrown in many directions to "break the bands asunder" Yet the Spirit speaks the same thing s the Law.... Everything promoted in the Law is a fruit of the Spirit, everything forbidden in the Law is a work of the flesh...
Is it "working at the NT Law" if I read this and think it is a right idea:
James 2:1-13 (ESV)
1 My brothers,show no partiality as you hold the faith in our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory. 2 For if a man wearing a gold ring and fine clothing comes into your assembly, and a poor man in shabby clothing also comes in, 3 and if you pay attention to the one who wears the fine clothing and say, "You sit here in a good place,"while you say to the poor man, "You stand over there," or, "Sit down at my feet," 4 have you not then made distinctions among yourselves and become judges with evil thoughts? 5 Listen, my beloved brothers, has not God chosen those who are poor in the world to be rich in faith and heirs of the kingdom, which he has promised to those who love him? 6 But you have dishonored the poor man. Are not the rich the ones who oppress you, and the ones who drag you into court? 7 Are they not the ones who blaspheme the honorable name by which you were called? 8 If you really fulfill the royal law according to the Scripture, "You shall love your neighbor as yourself," you are doing well."
No? Well it is a explaining/commentary of;
Leviticus 19:15, "Do not pervert judgment: You shall not show partiality to the poor, nor honor to the person of the great. In righteousness you shall judge your neighbor fairly."
Is every right principle given commentary/explanation in the "NT" ?
And am I "fallen" if I read i in the "OT" and oh so spiritual if I read it in the "NT"? I read both thoroughly, Yah willing.
No rather
Timothy 3:15-17, "And that
from a child you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to
make you wise unto salvation, through the faith which is in Yahshua Messiah.
All Scripture that is given through inspiration of Yahweh is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction,
for instruction in righteousness:
That the man of Yahweh may become perfect, thoroughly furnished for every righteous work."
When Paul wrote this
what was "Scripture" ?
1 Corinthians 10:11, "Now these things happened to them as an
example, and they were
written for our instruction, upon whom the ends of the ages have come"
Romans 15:4, "For
whatever was written in former days was written for our instruction, that through endurance and through the encouragement of the Scriptures we might have hope."
But it seems the adversary has people so scared of ever doing what YHWH says He wants man to be like and do they wont even read, as beneficial, most of the book....I believe this is A reason for the " mystery of iniquity already working" for it mysterious that people believe "I saved, now the only way I can lose my Salvation is if I seek to obey Him"
That thinking is mystery indeed....
2 Thess 2:6-12, "For the
mystery of iniquity (secret initiation of lawlessness*) is already working, but the One restraining him will continue to restrain him, until he is made to appear in the midst. And then that lawless one will be revealed, whom Yahshua will remove with the breath of His mouth, and make powerless with the appearance of His coming-- Whose coming is according to the energy of Satan, who works with all power, and signs, and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of sin in those who are perishing, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this reason, Yahweh will send them strong delusion, that they would believe the deception, In order that all those may be judged as not having believed the truth, but as having delighted in sin."
John 15:4-5
[SUP]4 [/SUP]Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
Maybe I have this all wrong. Maybe His Ways truly are Higher than my ways and He is the One who produces the fruit of obedience in my life. Fruit of obedience? How can the Lord give me obedience? Don't I have to obey in order to be obedient?
Matthew 11:28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
Yes there is only one way to Yah, and that is Messiah. No question.
Rest from satan and his ways? or rest from the Father and His ways? The world gave me nothing but physical and spiritual death, constantly misleading me, sending me hardship, trickery, depict, etc, but He and His ways have brought me joy, comfort, piece of mind, and gave me hope.