I thought I might add that of course the earth is not God Himself, but the earth was adopted...kinda like a rod of iron?
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Re: Your eyes are sewn shut...
is that what your trinity teaches you?...why would I want to be a part of that???
very mature and christianlike
is that what your trinity teaches you?...why would I want to be a part of that???
or did you learn that in the Greek????Originally Posted by afterbirth
is that your best response....still no trinity......
very mature and christianlike
Re: Your eyes are sewn shut...
Its always interesting what you choose to respond to...
Its always interesting what you choose to respond to...
In the parable of the sun, moon, earth, and outer space...which one or two or three or all could leave and life would still exist?
Re: Your eyes are sewn shut...
it's always interesting how you respond...it is what comes out from a man that defiles him
it's always interesting how you respond...it is what comes out from a man that defiles him
Re: Your eyes are sewn shut...
and that is one line you will never find anywhere in scripture...and there is a reason....
and that is one line you will never find anywhere in scripture...and there is a reason....
There is The Holy Spirit unmeasurable...and there is those in Christ Jesus of Nazareth who are born a holy spirit with a measure.
Don't you love babies? I do.
Don't you love babies? I do.
scripture is clear ... 1 Corinthians 8:6
But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
there is only one God the Father and under his authority there is only one who we call LORD...that is Jesus the Christ...
do you see a trinity making an abode in man??? or just Jesus and the Father?
John 14:23
Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
look where you have the Father in your triangle...broken in two...one as God and one as the Father...there is one God the Father....
But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
there is only one God the Father and under his authority there is only one who we call LORD...that is Jesus the Christ...
do you see a trinity making an abode in man??? or just Jesus and the Father?
John 14:23
Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
look where you have the Father in your triangle...broken in two...one as God and one as the Father...there is one God the Father....
If The Holy Spirit didnt exist...then Neither would The Son/Sword of The Spirit, and if Jesus The Son didn't exist then neither would The Father.
The Holy Spirit will convince those who are God's what is true or not, I wouldn't listen to these people who argue against the Trinity since they clearly don't understand. It's like asking an insane person what is sanity?
Re: Your eyes are sewn shut...
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Acts 5:3-4 (HCSB)
[SUP]3 [/SUP]Then Peter said, “Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit
and keep back part of the proceeds from the field?
[SUP]4 [/SUP]Wasn’t it yours while you possessed it? And after it was sold, wasn’t it at your disposal?
Why is it that you planned this thing in your heart? You have not lied to men but to God!”
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Acts 5:3-4 (HCSB)
[SUP]3 [/SUP]Then Peter said, “Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit
and keep back part of the proceeds from the field?
[SUP]4 [/SUP]Wasn’t it yours while you possessed it? And after it was sold, wasn’t it at your disposal?
Why is it that you planned this thing in your heart? You have not lied to men but to God!”
So now you share your intellect by comparing these people to the insane?
You can't read scripture: I and the Father are one.
God is Spirit. The Father is God. The Son is Emmanuel , which means God with us, who went back to the Father who poured Himself out opon mankund on the day of Penticost. WHAT DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND??????
you are starting a new discussion based on your misunderstanding....you are concluding that someone is saying the HS does not exist...no one said that....it is the trinity that does not exist....
Re: Your eyes are sewn shut...
based on this argument ...you also agree the Son is the Father....so there can be no trinity...God is not divided
John 14:9
Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?
based on this argument ...you also agree the Son is the Father....so there can be no trinity...God is not divided
John 14:9
Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?
If you do not believe the word ...how will the HS convince you...??? scripture is clear ....the knowledge is not in every man ...so they go about to lean upon their own understanding...
1 Corinthians 8:5-7King James Version (KJV)
[SUP]5 [/SUP]For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,)
[SUP]6 [/SUP]But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]Howbeit there is not in every man that knowledge: for some with conscience of the idol unto this hour eat it as a thing offered unto an idol; and their conscience being weak is defiled.
Isn't the words triune and trinity simply a way of communicating an idea? Kinda like the word Christian?
I really am having a hard time understanding if the debate is about word definitions or who God is?
Exodus 3 King James Version (KJV)
3*Now Moses kept the flock of Jethro his father in law, the priest of Midian: and he led the flock to the backside of the desert, and came to the mountain of God, even to Horeb.
2*And the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a flame of fire out of the midst of a bush: and he looked, and, behold, the bush burned with fire, and the bush was not consumed.
In this passage we see light, sound, and substance that can be felt/heat.
We see an earthen vessel not corruptible, light not corruptible, sound not corruptible...even if it is body language at first.
Moses was drawn to such a language...and the story goes on.
If someone says that God is one...they are not lying.
If someone says that God is two...they are not lying.
If someone says that God is three...they are not lying.
Both and all are true. One plus a billion can still equal one with God.
There is no doubt that The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit all equally have no beginning or ending. We are adopted with a beginning and into no ending.
I really am having a hard time understanding if the debate is about word definitions or who God is?
Exodus 3 King James Version (KJV)
3*Now Moses kept the flock of Jethro his father in law, the priest of Midian: and he led the flock to the backside of the desert, and came to the mountain of God, even to Horeb.
2*And the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a flame of fire out of the midst of a bush: and he looked, and, behold, the bush burned with fire, and the bush was not consumed.
In this passage we see light, sound, and substance that can be felt/heat.
We see an earthen vessel not corruptible, light not corruptible, sound not corruptible...even if it is body language at first.
Moses was drawn to such a language...and the story goes on.
If someone says that God is one...they are not lying.
If someone says that God is two...they are not lying.
If someone says that God is three...they are not lying.
Both and all are true. One plus a billion can still equal one with God.
There is no doubt that The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit all equally have no beginning or ending. We are adopted with a beginning and into no ending.
and scripture says he is one...scripture does not say he is two...if you say two you are lying...scripture does not say he is three ...if you say three you are lying...