The Holy Ghost is The Father of Jesus Christ

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p_rehbein

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You sound like a child. Another what? Because my expression of what I believe doesn't match yours?

Look at this thread and how you all have attacked the OP. What did he say that was wrong. What was in Mary's womb was OF the Holy Spirit. Jesus stated that His Father was God. Therefore God and the Father IS the Holy Spirit, of which Jesus is OF.

And yet you all attack him for saying what a child can figure out by reading it. But to hold on to your established traditions of "accepted doctrines," you will denounce even the plain truth?
Funny..............as I read your comments, I see how child like they are in the understanding of Scripture..........and I see, by reading the above, that you understood no better than the Author of the OP the statements of others here.......

Go in peace...........
 
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Funny..............as I read your comments, I see how child like they are in the understanding of Scripture..........and I see, by reading the above, that you understood no better than the Author of the OP the statements of others here.......

Go in peace...........
If this was simply about scripture with you, then simply post scripture on your view. I can post scripture to support my view, as well. But don't just attack me. It is the world that is deceived. I sound different, because out of it, I have different teachers.
 

p_rehbein

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Go in peace..............as shall I.................


(and, again, my "ignore" list grows)
 
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ummmmkay...Last time I checked God the Father God the Son and God the Holy Spirit are the same.....3 in 1.
John 14:28
Ye have heard how I said unto you,
I go away, and come again unto you.
If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said,
I go unto the Father:


for my Father is greater than I.
 

notuptome

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Im not lessening God's power, I rather understand it. We were all born male AND female. We are all married. And when the bible says "let US make man in OUR image, it is the male attribute of the Spirit talking to the female attribute of the Spirit. God is power and light, the male which possessed WISDOM, the female in the beginning. She acts as described in proverbs 8 in stark contrast to devilish wisdom from below in which men (mankind) has fornicated with.
Let Us make man in Our image is a reference to the pre-existence of the triune God. Father, Son and Holy Spirit are the Us. Now God is Spirit and there is no male or female in Spirit.

Adam was created from the dust of the earth and Eve was taken from Adams side. God made Eve to fulfill a need that Adam had as a man created from the dust of the earth. A need that God supplied in a wonderful way, a help meet for him.

Interestingly enough there has been much speculation given our level of scientific knowledge as to the genetic makeup of Jesus the Christ. If God can make a man out of dust of the earth then God can make a Savior out of the womb of a woman.

Wisdom was with God when God created the universe. Why is wisdom seen as female? Perhaps to make wisdom seem more desirable to man. Wisdom continues the help meet for man pattern God established with Adam in the garden. Man needs wisdom and man must seek wisdom to obtain knowledge and understanding.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
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Philippians 2:5 .) Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
6 .) Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
7 .) But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
8 .) And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
9 .) Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
10 .) That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
11 .) And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
I could ask you questions pertaining to this you have
posted and you will not be able to answer me correctly or without contradicting yourself.
Because you do not comprehend it.
 

posthuman

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John 14:28
Ye have heard how I said unto you,
I go away, and come again unto you.
If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said,
I go unto the Father:


for my Father is greater than I.

interesting.

does the one who is lesser send the one who is greater, or the other way around?

And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Helper, to be with you forever, even the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees him nor knows him. You know him, for he dwells with you and will be in you.
(John 14:16-17)


But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you.
(John 14:26)


is the greater one sent in the name of the lesser?
or is the lesser sent in the name of the greater..



 

notuptome

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I could ask you questions pertaining to this you have
posted and you will not be able to answer me correctly or without contradicting yourself.
Because you do not comprehend it.
What a condescending remark.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
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to the contrary, I did answer the question............for those who understood the answer............ :)
well next time you must answer the one who ask the question ...he said you did not answer and I agree...
 
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So are you gonna tell us next that Jesus and satan are brothers? Or that Jesus is the archangel Michael?
no...those are not the debate.... all I am saying is you did not answer the question...or explain what you think the two scripture means....with supporting scripture...how did you arrive at that comment????
 
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no...those are not the debate.... all I am saying is you did not answer the question...or explain what you think the two scripture means....with supporting scripture...how did you arrive at that comment????
Here is something for you to chew on. It's difficult for me to type a long explanation on my phone so here is a link to get the ball rolling.

What does the Bible teach about the Trinity?
 
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Let Us make man in Our image is a reference to the pre-existence of the triune God. Father, Son and Holy Spirit are the Us. Now God is Spirit and there is no male or female in Spirit.

Adam was created from the dust of the earth and Eve was taken from Adams side. God made Eve to fulfill a need that Adam had as a man created from the dust of the earth. A need that God supplied in a wonderful way, a help meet for him.

Interestingly enough there has been much speculation given our level of scientific knowledge as to the genetic makeup of Jesus the Christ. If God can make a man out of dust of the earth then God can make a Savior out of the womb of a woman.

Wisdom was with God when God created the universe. Why is wisdom seen as female? Perhaps to make wisdom seem more desirable to man. Wisdom continues the help meet for man pattern God established with Adam in the garden. Man needs wisdom and man must seek wisdom to obtain knowledge and understanding.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
Unfortunately, this is not the case but mainstream deceit. Wisdom is the woman or female half of that one Spirit. It was WISDOM that said she was with HIM in the beginning. It was Christ that stated that WISDOM will be justified by her children. And it is this very same book that states that Christ is both the POWER AND WISDOM of God.

Power is a male attribute. It is the masculine of the Spirit. Wisdom is the female attribute. it is the feminine of the Spirit. Together, they are ONE Spirit, in which wisdom acts as a woman should! SHE IS SILENT! It is the male that leads!j

But there is another woman who sits over the us as Revelation states, of whom the world has fornicated with. She is NOT silent and has power over the man (mankind). She is the wisdom of the earth and that whore.
 
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Do you believe God is a Spirit?

If you say yes,

then I will ask you

do you believe

God is a Holy Spirit?

If you say yes then I will

Ask you do you believe

The Holy Spirit is God?

Well?

Do you believe the Holy Spirit is God?

Yes or no?
 

CS1

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Do you believe God is a Spirit?

If you say yes,

then I will ask you

do you believe

God is a Holy Spirit?

If you say yes then I will

Ask you do you believe

The Holy Spirit is God?

Well?

Do you believe the Holy Spirit is God?

Yes or no?
when we approach the God head we must do so reverently and knowing we cannot fully understand the Godhead. now what is your Q?
 
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when we approach the God head we must do so reverently and knowing we cannot fully understand the Godhead. now what is your Q?
Why do you believe that someone
with the indwelling of the Holy Ghost cannot fully understand what the Spirit of truth taught them?

I think it is because you do not have the indwelling of the Holy Ghost.

Am I right?
 
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Here is something for you to chew on. It's difficult for me to type a long explanation on my phone so here is a link to get the ball rolling.

What does the Bible teach about the Trinity?
nothing on that site proves a trinity ....it is for those who have a pre conceived notion that there is a trinity and they use those scriptures to argue their point...
scripture says ...to us who believe in God The Father and our Lord Jesus Christ...
1 Corinthians 8:6
But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

look at the foolish image they use to represent the make up of their trinity...do you notice God and the Father are represented by two different circles....they make the Father on a different level from God...and scripture is clear there is but one God the Father....

do you believe Paul???

do you believe John?...
[h=1]1 John 1 King James Version (KJV)[/h] 1 That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;

[SUP]2 [/SUP](For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us;)

[SUP]3 [/SUP]That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.


[h=1]2 John 1 King James Version (KJV)[/h] [SUP]1 [/SUP]The elder unto the elect lady and her children, whom I love in the truth; and not I only, but also all they that have known the truth;
[SUP]2 [/SUP]For the truth's sake, which dwelleth in us, and shall be with us for ever.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]Grace be with you, mercy, and peace, from God the Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of the Father, in truth and love.

[SUP]4 [/SUP]I rejoiced greatly that I found of thy children walking in truth, as we have received a commandment from the Father.


do you believe James...????

[h=1]James 1 King James Version (KJV)[/h] 1 James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.

do you believe Peter...????

[h=1]1 Peter 1 King James Version (KJV)[/h] 1 Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia,
[SUP]2 [/SUP]Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

[h=1]2 Peter 1 King James Version (KJV)[/h] 1 Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ:

[SUP]2 [/SUP]Grace and peace be multiplied unto you through the knowledge of God, and of Jesus our Lord,


do you believe the author of Hebrews...????


[h=1]Hebrews 1 King James Version (KJV)[/h] 1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,

[SUP]2 [/SUP]Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
[SUP]3 [/SUP]Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:

tell me where do you see anyone of them recognising or making salutations a trinity.....?????????????