High School should be outlawed...

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Elijah19

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Completely unrelated to anything, and basically just my opinion, but High School is basically hell on earth. I think that after Middle school people should just start going to college and not waste 4 years of their life becoming Glee-show mindless drones. Better to get into real society and learn the real trades of adulthood than stay in hormone-poisoned pixie-land forever...

Seriously, High School doesn't teach you anything! You learn everything you will ever need to know from home, school up to the end of middle school, and college. Skip the pointless step and cut out the middle man. We should all just universally ban the existence of High School and send graduated Middle Schoolers straight to College...
 
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I actually have that same viewpoint about my college. I got my bachelor's last May and right now I have a job that I haven't worked at for two weeks because they don't need me. It's not even related to the subject I studied. I don't know if it's the frustration but part of me is feeling my college experience was just a scam.
 
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Back in my day, a long, long, time ago, the only people who went to collage were Dr., teachers, engineers.
The rest of us went to the military or went out and got a job that taught us a trade.
It would be best if we went back to teaching young people a trade so they could be more productive
 
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Tintin

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I hated much of high school due to the constant bullying I received, daily and some horrible, horrible teachers. But I did learn lots there and made some great friends and had a few good teachers. That didn't prevent it from basically being hell on earth though. I'm very glad that part of my life is over.
 
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actually, for teenagers..............8th Grade to Seniors.........life in general is hell on earth.......raging hormones 'n' such I suspect...........

I loved and hated my High School years............weird I know, but it is quite true.......Will say I have never attended a class reunion though...........

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3Scoreand10 said:
Back in my day, a long, long, time ago, the only people who went to collage were Dr., teachers, engineers.
The rest of us went to the military or went out and got a job that taught us a trade.
It would be best if we went back to teaching young people a trade so they could be more productive
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That was the way it was for most of the folks in my high school. I had it both ways, I went from high school to the military and then to college.

I quite enjoyed high school, though.
 
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As much as I can agree with you, the fault doesn't entirely lie on the age group and type of level of schooling is considered to be a waste of time or not. It's all to do with what type of school it is. Urban public school and tuition private school, for example, have clear differences as to what level and environments that impacts on what each of the students learn. Unions play a huge role as to how each schools run and the quality that the teachers provide for their students. Levels as to what a student is 'capable' of learning or not can determine how much they are provided.

If anything, American schools should definitely go by how some European educations role. Primary and secondary schooling til age sixteen, have the option to further their education or start working from there on. Eighteen as the necessary requirement (twenty-one if the student is in special education) is pushing it.
 
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What are the age ranges for elementary, middle, high school and college? I'm asking to get an understanding, in Australia its primary school, high school then (adult) university or other higher learning
 
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breno785au said:
What are the age ranges for elementary, middle, high school and college? I'm asking to get an understanding, in Australia its primary school, high school then (adult) university or other higher learning
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Elementary is k-5 which you usually start at age 5. Middle is grades 6-8 which you start at 11 or 12. High school is grades 9-12 which you usually start at 14-15. Then undergrad which most people start at 18-19.
 
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jsr1221 said:
Elementary is k-5 which you usually start at age 5. Middle is grades 6-8 which you start at 11 or 12. High school is grades 9-12 which you usually start at 14-15. Then undergrad which most people start at 18-19.
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Oh ok, well in that case you can't learn anything in college unless you learn in high school first. :)
 
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I loved that poster that said:

EVERYTHING I NEEDED TO KNOW, I LEARNED IN KINDERGARTEN

Haven't seen one for years...............but reading one would make you smile and agree.............

Googled and found it, yea!

“These are the things I learned (in Kindergarten):

1. Share everything.
2. Play fair.
3. Don't hit people.
4. Put thngs back where you found them.
5. CLEAN UP YOUR OWN MESS.
6. Don't take things that aren't yours.
7. Say you're SORRY when you HURT somebody.
8. Wash your hands before you eat.
9. Flush.
10. Warm cookies and cold milk are good for you.
11. Live a balanced life - learn some and drink some and draw some and paint some and sing and dance and play and work everyday some.
12. Take a nap every afternoon.
13. When you go out into the world, watch out for traffic, hold hands, and stick together.
14. Be aware of wonder. Remember the little seed in the Stryrofoam cup: The roots go down and the plant goes up and nobody really knows how or why, but we are all like that.
15. Goldfish and hamster and white mice and even the little seed in the Styrofoam cup - they all die. So do we.
16. And then remember the Dick-and-Jane books and the first workd you learned - the biggest word of all - LOOK.”
― Robert Fulghum, All I Really Need to Know I Learned in Kindergarten
 
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High School is good for at least one thing......Tells us who we are going to be..... The Jock, The Princess, The Nerd, The Smart Kids, The Bully, The Victim, The Strong, The Weak, The Druggies, The Workers......Where else do you see the separation better than in High School?
 
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It seems like High School never ends! I feel like I'm back in High School when I'm at work. The cliques are there, the jocks, the nerds, the smart people, the not so smart people, the bully, the victim, the strong and the weak. We even have a few druggies and of course, the workers. I deliver mail to a senior citizen home and some of the senior citizens there act like they are teenagers trapped in old bodies. :eek:
 
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Elijah19

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I refuse to be defined by the narrow social separation terms of High School (The Jock, The Princess, The Nerd, The Smart Kids, The Bully, The Victim, The Strong, The Weak, The Druggies, The Workers). I am more than just a title, I'm a person...
 
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Elijah19 said:
I refuse to be defined by the narrow social separation terms of High School (The Jock, The Princess, The Nerd, The Smart Kids, The Bully, The Victim, The Strong, The Weak, The Druggies, The Workers). I am more than just a title, I'm a person...
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High School is a jungle out there......Survival of the fittest.......It is where real life starts as you are aware and becoming an adult and the real world will tear you to pieces if you let it. That has been my experience......Good thing we have God on our side right? It appears most of us did survive High School.....
 
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I'm with JustAnotherUser, the problem isn't the concept of HS so much as it is other factors. There are the ones she mentioned, but also the general culture in the time and place where you live. Since the advent of the internet i've noticed a drastic change in how people act and treat each other. Of course there have always been problems, but the general nature of people seems much worse now than when i was younger.
So much of the nature of HS is related to the cultural concepts of 'normal' for that age range. And those norms continue to deteriorate. And then when those norms deteriorate those people have kids with which they raise with lower standards, which causes more deterioration and the cycle continues to spiral downward.
 
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Siberian_Khatru

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The people I know of that were home schooled seem to be far better educated, enlightened, and mature than anyone coming out of the public education system. I think that's the route I would take with my own kids, if I ever have any.

High school is what you make it, and what funding makes it. :(

Elijah19 said:
I think that after Middle school people should just start going to college and not waste 4 years of their life becoming Glee-show mindless drones. Better to get into real society and learn the real trades of adulthood than stay in hormone-poisoned pixie-land forever...
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Haha! Do you think college = real society? I feel like college isn't consistently any less of a waste of four years by comparison. :p
 
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High School was fun but I still think school in general was a waste of time. They teach you book knowledge and some dumb facts (some of which are fake/rewritten such as history). The problem in today's society is that school's don't teach people how to think critically, ask questions, and never take anything at face value without research. You are taught to be a mindless fact spouting zombie android who like a robot answers questions based on book knowledge rather than common sense and to accept everything your told no questions asked...
 
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Colt45Bullet

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I agree. High school is a waste of time. I think, school should end at 8th grade. And in that 8th grade year, you test. Not math or science tests, but personality, and career tests. After that, you go into an explorer program and explore the careers you want, or are interested in. Then you attend a school for that job.
 
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