Was the Sabbath (7th day) abolished?

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you use Scriptual principles but not correctly.

Is the Sabbath for going to church only?

people can worship any day and should worship YHWH everyday, this does not change that the Sabbath was set apart by the Creator of everything.

so you ask me a question and then tell me im wrong for starting where I see need to illustrate my point... I cant win if i do cant win if i dint with you huh? I guess I have to ask you what my answer should be and then reply word for word the answer you have ordained for me? or anything else is unacceptable...

I would reason/debate any and every matter with you if you wanted to, but all I asked is one question to move foreword with.

You cannot properly address the point I made can you. Neither can anyone in another denomination. For to do so either means you state anyone who refuses to observe Saturday Sabbath cannot be saved if they have no heartfelt conviction they are sinning by not doing so, or you have to accept Gentile Christians are not required to observe Saturday Sabbath. It has to be one or the other.
Your desire to theologise away what is not demanded for Gentile converts is a futile exercise, and one I want no part of.
I can assure you, the vast majority of Christians attend church on a sunday and will not be damned to hell for doing so. And they do not have heartfelt conviction they are sinning because they attend church on sundays.
 
Is the Messiah telling the truth here:

Matt 5:18, "For truly I say to you; Unless heaven and earth passes away, one yodh--the smallest of the letters--will in no way pass from the Law, until all things are perfected."

Revelation 21:1-2, "And I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no more sea. And I, Yahchanan, saw the holy city, Yahweh Shammah, coming down from Yahweh out of heaven, prepared as brides adorned for their husbands. And I heard a great voice out of heaven, saying: Behold, the tabernacle of Yahweh is with men, and He will dwell with them, and they will be His people, and Yahweh Himself will be with them, and be their Father.

students of mytery babylon say:

"the ALaw is done away"

"well its not done away its fulfilled"

"ohh well the Law didnt pass it was fulfilled"

"ohh well it hasnt been completely fulfilled, for judgement and some of the Feast days are not yet fulfilled"

"no but we are not under Law"

lol

its called the mystery of iniquity.

Yes, Jesus must complete (fulfilled) all of the task in order to make it to the finish line. At first, God were only working with the ones from Abraham's seeds, but now that ones was fulfilled, he had taken the righteous with Him, and so it was completed; he has brought all of the righteous ones of the first flock; but if you still want the old covenant to be still in effect, then God only work through Abraham's seed, , and if you want to be grafted in, then you must leave your spouse for the sake of the kingdom, by marrying a Jew; then you'll be grafted onto the vine.

John 4:34 “My food,” said Jesus, “is to do the will of him who sent me and to finish his work.

Matthew 15:24 He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.”
(The ones that are under the old covenant)

John 19:30 When he had received the drink, Jesus said, “It is finished.” With that, he bowed his head and gave up his spirit.

John 10:16 I have other sheep that are not of this sheep pen
( That aren't under the old covenant). I must bring them also. They too will listen to my voice, and there shall be one flock and one shepherd.
 
I have attended one seventh day Adventist church. Two people who were baptised in it frequently use the terms omg and 'Jesus' irreverently and laugh when doing so. Both of them have sex outside of marriage, and one of the elders of the church also has sex outside of marriage with their long term partner.
The minister does not accept that under the terms of the new covenant the law is written on the mind and placed on the heart of the believer, though Doug Bachelor does, and also a visiting minster does. I also know of another seventh day Adventist who sleeps with men without conscience. I repeat, in no church I have ever been to has such behaviour taken place for so long and with apparently such little conscience. Though in saying that I accept there are churches where people live a promiscuous lifestyle. However, in every church I have belonged to it has not taken place.

I am not an SDA, not that that matters for this discussion but since the discussion has reached a point where you have to stoop to guilt by association with a group I have never associated with, the discussion with you is over.
 
I am not an SDA, not that that matters for this discussion but since the discussion has reached a point where you have to stoop to guilt by association with a group I have never associated with, the discussion with you is over.

I simply responded to your point. I also stated people who go to church on sundays live promiscuous lifestyles, but I had not attended a church where it was as blatant as I described. Please read fully what is written
 
You cannot properly address the point I made can you. Neither can anyone in another denomination. For to do so either means you state anyone who refuses to observe Saturday Sabbath cannot be saved if they have no heartfelt conviction they are sinning by not doing so, or you have to accept Gentile Christians are not required to observe Saturday Sabbath. It has to be one or the other.
Your desire to theologise away what is not demanded for Gentile converts is a futile exercise, and one I want no part of.
I can assure you, the vast majority of Christians attend church on a sunday and will not be damned to hell for doing so. And they do not have heartfelt conviction they are sinning because they attend church on sundays.

I am not affiliated with any wolrd based religion, saturday or saunday keeping.

You are going on and on about things were never talked about together, you are making my doctrine out of your words.

You dont even need me in this debate for you tell me my answers even when I dont say them...
 
Yes, Jesus must complete (fulfilled) all of the task in order to make it to the finish line. At first, God were only working with the ones from Abraham's seeds, but now that ones was fulfilled, he had taken the righteous with Him, and so it was completed; he has brought all of the righteous ones of the first flock; but if you still want the old covenant to be still in effect, then God only work through Abraham's seed, , and if you want to be grafted in, then you must leave your spouse for the sake of the kingdom, by marrying a Jew; then you'll be grafted onto the vine.

John 4:34 “My food,” said Jesus, “is to do the will of him who sent me and to finish his work.

Matthew 15:24 He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.”
(The ones that are under the old covenant)

John 19:30 When he had received the drink, Jesus said, “It is finished.” With that, he bowed his head and gave up his spirit.

John 10:16 I have other sheep that are not of this sheep pen
( That aren't under the old covenant). I must bring them also. They too will listen to my voice, and there shall be one flock and one shepherd.

I am under the priesthood of the order of Melchizedek....

ohh and im glad you can tell me all my answers just like this other guy.

no dabate no considering what another says, just paint you paint on them....
 
There is no need for a starting point? whaaat? Scriptural truth is the starting point.

the Messiah siting on the judgement seat is the judge peoples hearts are not the judge.

im done here, if you wont answer one question how can we even speak about the verses I would follow up with?

Hiz, my friend, I had forgotten this and I think you have too...

Joh 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

Luk 24:45 Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,

These miracles have not occurred in everyone's life yet.
 
I am not affiliated with any wolrd based religion, saturday or saunday keeping.

You are going on and on about things were never talked about together, you are making my doctrine out of your words.

You dont even need me in this debate for you tell me my answers even when I dont say them...

I understand why you wrote what you did. However, if you are a sincere person, you will think on what I wrote and see it is correct. You have two choices with your beliefs-if you face the reality of them. Either no one can be a Christian unless they have heartfelt conviction they are sinning if they do not observe Saturday Sabbath. Or, the Holy Spirit did not wrote on the mind, or place on the heart the commandment that Saturday Sabbath must be observed by Gentile converts. Most will not face that uncomfortable truth. Anyone with an open-not closed mind who is prepared to face painful, truthful reality will
God Bless
 
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Daniyl 7:25, "And he will speak great words against Yahweh, and will wear out the saints of Yahweh, and think to change times and Laws..."

Revelation 14:12, "In this manner are the saints purified--by keeping the Laws of Yahweh, (in conformity) with the faith in Yahshua Messiah."

1785. entolé
Definition: an ordinance, injunction, command, law.

Revelation 14:12
Parallel Verses
New International Version
This calls for patient endurance on the part of the people of God who keep his commands and remain faithful to Jesus.

New Living Translation
This means that God's holy people must endure persecution patiently, obeying his commands and maintaining their faith in Jesus.

English Standard Version
Here is a call for the endurance of the saints, those who keep the commandments of God and their faith in Jesus.

New American Standard Bible
Here is the perseverance of the saints who keep the commandments of God and their faith in Jesus.

Daniyl 7:25, "And he will speak great words against Yahweh, and will wear out the saints of Yahweh, and think to change times and Laws..."

King James Bible
Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
This demands the perseverance of the saints, who keep God's commands and their faith in Jesus."
 
I understand why you wrote what you did. However, if you are a sincere person, you will think on what I wrote and see it is correct. You have two choices with your beliefs-if you face the reality of them. Either no one can be a Christian unless they have heartfelt conviction they are sinning if they do not observe Saturday Sabbath. Or, the Holy Spirit did not wrote on the mind, or place on the heart the commandment that Saturday Sabbath must be observed. Most will not face that uncomfortable truth. Anyone with an open-not closed mind who is prepared to face truthful reality will
God Bless

yet you will not even reply to a Scriptural question but throw a number of relative but misused Scriptural principles at me. and you want to talk to me about
Most will not face that uncomfortable truth.

We must obey Yahweh rather than men.
 
Hiz, my friend, I had forgotten this and I think you have too...

Joh 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

Luk 24:45 Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,

These miracles have not occurred in everyone's life yet.

I lives as a "believer" for about 20 years before He woke me up.

May YHWH make His face shine upon them that they may see His path. truly.
 
yet you will not even reply to a Scriptural question but throw a number of relative but misused Scriptural principles at me. and you want to talk to me about

We must obey Yahweh rather than men.

It is sad, that many people with their set beliefs are not prepared to face the consequences of them once shown. It is rather depressing in truth
 
Isayah 56:1-7, "This is what Yahweh says: Keep the judgments, and do justly; for My salvation is near, soon, to come, and My righteousness to be revealed. Blessed is the man who does this, and the son of man who lays hold on it; who keeps the Sabbaths without polluting; defiling, them; and keeps his hand from doing any evil. Do not let the son of the Gentile, who has joined himself to Yahweh, speak, saying; Yahweh has utterly separated me from His people. Nor let the eunuch say; Behold, I am a dry tree. For this is what Yahweh says: To the eunuchs who keep My Sabbaths, and choose those things which please Me, and hold fast to My covenant: I will give to them, in My House, even within My walls, a place and a Name equal to that of sons and of daughters; I will give them the Name of The Everlasting: YAHWEH; which will not be cut off. Also the sons of the Gentile who join themselves to Yahweh, to serve Him, and to love the Name of Yahweh, to be His servants--everyone who keeps the Sabbaths without polluting; defiling, them and who holds fast to My covenant--I will bring them to My holy mountain, and make them joyful in My House of prayer..."

Matt 5:18, "For truly I say to you; Unless heaven and earth passes away, one yodh--the smallest of the letters--will in no way pass from the Law, until all things are perfected."

Revelation 21:1-2, "And I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no more sea. And I, Yahchanan, saw the holy city, Yahweh Shammah, coming down from Yahweh out of heaven, prepared as brides adorned for their husbands. And I heard a great voice out of heaven, saying: Behold, the tabernacle of Yahweh is with men, and He will dwell with them, and they will be His people, and Yahweh Himself will be with them, and be their Father.

Romans 2:15, "Since they show that the requirements of the Law are written in their hearts, their conscience also bears witness, and their thoughts now accuse or else try to excuse them."

626 - apologeomai
apologeomai: to give an account of oneself, hence to defend oneself
Original Word: ἀπολογέομαι
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: apologeomai
Phonetic Spelling: (ap-ol-og-eh'-om-ahee)
Short Definition: I give a defense, defend myself
Definition: I give a defense, defend myself (especially in a law court): it can take an object of what is said in defense.

men excuse and sanctify themselves.

Children of Yah dont.

Isayah 66:17, "They who sanctify themselves*, and purify themselves in the gardens, following after the "priest in the midst" of those who eat swine's flesh, that which is offered to gods and the rodent--will be consumed together: says Yahweh."

The Hebrew text renders this phrase: following the one in the center, rather than: one behind the other, as in the King James version. This ONE in the center is an idolatrous PRIEST or PREACHER. A Hebrew and Chaldee Lexicon to the Old Testament by Julius Furst, Page 1463.

Ezekiel 20:12, "Moreover, I also gave them My Sabbaths, to be a sign between Me and them, that they might know that *I am Yahweh Who sanctifies them."

Sign is Word #226, Hebrew Dictionary, Strong's Exhaustive Concordance, meaning mark, token, sign, consent, flag, evidence of consent.

Mattithyah 7:21-23, "Not everyone who says to Me; Teacher! Teacher! will enter into the Kingdom of Yahweh, but only he who does the will of My Father Who is in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day; Teacher! Teacher! Have we not prophesied in Your Name, and cast out demons in Your Name, and in Your Name performed many wonderful works? But then I will declare to them; I never knew you. Get away from Me, you who practice iniquity."
 
Accept the one whose faith is weak, without quarreling over disputable matters Rom 14:1

One person considers one day more sacred than another; another considers every day alike. Each of them should be fully convinced in their own mind Rom 14:5

am convinced, being fully persuaded in the Lord Jesus, that nothing is unclean in itself. But if anyone regards something as unclean, then for that person it is unclean. rom 14:14

All food is clean, but it is wrong for a person to eat anything that causes someone else to stumble. rom 14:20

[SUP] [/SUP]So whatever you believe about these things keep between yourself and God rom 14:22

 
Accept the one whose faith is weak, without quarreling over disputable matters Rom 14:1

One person considers one day more sacred than another; another considers every day alike. Each of them should be fully convinced in their own mind Rom 14:5

am convinced, being fully persuaded in the Lord Jesus, that nothing is unclean in itself. But if anyone regards something as unclean, then for that person it is unclean. rom 14:14

All food is clean, but it is wrong for a person to eat anything that causes someone else to stumble. rom 14:20

So whatever you believe about these things keep between yourself and God rom 14:22


I wonder what the Creator considers?
 
Again Jesus called the crowd to him and said, “Listen to me, everyone, and understand this. [SUP]15 [/SUP]Nothing outside a person can defile them by going into them. Rather, it is what comes out of a person that defiles them.” [SUP][16] [/SUP][SUP][f][/SUP]
[SUP]17 [/SUP]After he had left the crowd and entered the house, his disciples asked himabout this parable. [SUP]18 [/SUP]“Are you so dull?” he asked. “Don’t you see that nothing that enters a person from the outside can defile them? [SUP]19 [/SUP]For it doesn’t go into their heart but into their stomach, and then out of the body.” (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods clean.)
[SUP]20 [/SUP]He went on: “What comes out of a person is what defiles them. [SUP]21 [/SUP]For it is from within, out of a person’s heart, that evil thoughts come—sexual immorality, theft, murder, [SUP]22 [/SUP]adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly. [SUP]23 [/SUP]All these evils come from inside and defile a person.” mark 7:14-23
 
Again Jesus called the crowd to him and said, “Listen to me, everyone, and understand this. [SUP]15 [/SUP]Nothing outside a person can defile them by going into them. Rather, it is what comes out of a person that defiles them.” [SUP][16] [/SUP][SUP][f][/SUP]
[SUP]17 [/SUP]After he had left the crowd and entered the house, his disciples asked himabout this parable. [SUP]18 [/SUP]“Are you so dull?” he asked. “Don’t you see that nothing that enters a person from the outside can defile them? [SUP]19 [/SUP]For it doesn’t go into their heart but into their stomach, and then out of the body.” (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods clean.)
[SUP]20 [/SUP]He went on: “What comes out of a person is what defiles them. [SUP]21 [/SUP]For it is from within, out of a person’s heart, that evil thoughts come—sexual immorality, theft, murder, [SUP]22 [/SUP]adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly. [SUP]23 [/SUP]All these evils come from inside and defile a person.” mark 7:14-23

So you if can eat pork you can ignore the 4th Commandment?

Those old forged words:

(In saying this, Jesus declared all foods clean.)

"Thus Jesus declared all foods clean"


Mark 7:1-23,

1 Then the Pharisees and certain scribes came together to Him, having come from Yerusalem.

2 And when they saw some of His disciples eating bread with defiled-that is to say, unwashed--hands, they found fault.

3 (Now the Pharisees, and the Yahdaim generally, never eat without washing their hands, holding the tradition of the elders. (Mat 15:2-3, "Why do Your disciples transgress the traditions of the elders? For they do not wash their hands when they eat. But He answered, and said to them: And why do you transgress the Laws of Yahweh by your traditions?")

4 And when they come from the marketplaces, they do not eat unless they wash. And many other traditions they observe, such as the ritual washing of cups, pots, bronze utensils, and beds.)

5 Then the Pharisees and scribes asked Him; Why do Your disciples not walk according to the tradition of the elders, but eat bread with unwashed hands?

6 He answered, and said to them: Well has Isayah prophesied of you hypocrites--as it is written: This people honors Me with their lips, but their heart is far from Me.

7 But in vain do they worship Me, teaching as doctrine the commandments of men.

8 For laying aside the Law of Yahweh, you hold the tradition of men!

9 Then He said to them: How well you reject the Law of Yahweh, so that you may keep your own tradition!

So clearly Yahshua the Messiah rebukes them for not only making their own "laws" but actually casting aside the Laws of Yahweh. Since foods neing clean or unclean is a common understand attached to this passage, let us consider if food Laws are man made or if the Creator made these Laws.

Genesis 7:1-2, "Then Yahweh said to Noah: Come into the ark, you and all your household, for I have seen you righteous before Me in this generation. You shall take with you seven pairs of every clean animal, a male and his female; two of animals that are unclean, a male and his female;"

Leviticus 11:1-2, "And Yahweh spoke to Mosheh and Aaron, saying to them: Speak to the children of Israyl, saying; These are the animals you may eat among all the beasts upon the land" 43-44, "You shall not make yourselves abominable with any creature that moves about on the ground. Do not defile yourselves by means of them, nor be made unclean by them. I am Yahweh your Heavenly Father. You shall therefore consecrate and sanctify yourselves, and you shall be holy; for I am holy. Neither shall you defile yourselves with any creature that moves about on the ground." 46-47, "This is the Law of the animals, and the birds, and every living thing that moves in the waters, and every creature that moves about on the ground. You must distinguish between the unclean and the clean--between the animal that may be eaten, and the animal that may not be eaten."

We can see these Laws literally came directly from the mouth of Yahweh, so when Messiah said: "How well you reject the Law of Yahweh, so that you may keep your own tradition!" It is clear He is not rebuking them for telling people to follow Yahweh's food Laws, but for their pharisee hand washing "law."

Malakyah 3:6-7, "For I am Yahweh, I change not; therefore you sons of Yaaqob are not consumed. Ever since the days of your fathers you have turned away from My ordinances, and have not kept them. Return to Me, and I will return to you! says Yahweh of hosts. But you said; How will we return?"

Luke 16:17, "But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one yodh of the Law to fail."

10 For Mosheh said: Honor your father and your mother; and: Whoever curses father or mother, let him be put to death;

11 But you say(Pharisees); If a man will say to his father or mother: Anything of mine which might have benefited you is qorban (that is, a gift set apart for Yahweh)--

12 You excuse him from doing what he is obligated to do for his father and his mother;

13 Making the Laws of Yahweh of no effect through your tradition you have handed down! And many other similar things you do.

More evidence of the pharisees adding their own laws to the people why excusing themselves from following Yahweh;s Law.

14 And when He had called all the people to Him, He said to them: Everyone, listen to Me and understand!

15 There is nothing from outside a man, that entering into him can defile him; but the things which come out of him, those are things which defile the man.

16 If any man has ears to hear, let him hear!

17 But when He had left the people and entered the house, His disciples asked Him about the parable.

Mark 7:18 "Are you so dull?" he asked.

That He did ask, you know why... THE PEOPLE WERE "CAUGHT UP", "RAPTURED" IN TRADITION...

7 But in vain do they worship Me, teaching as doctrine the commandments of men.

8 For laying aside the Law of Yahweh, you hold the tradition of men!

9 Then He said to them: How well you reject the Law of Yahweh, so that you may keep your own tradition!

Because Messiah say: "nothing from outside a man, that entering into him can defile him" many that want to reject Yahweh;s food Laws say see I can eat! But when did context of Scripture not matter? In context the entire passage is about eating with "unwashed--hands."
Did Peter wait on the Spirit to understand the meaning? Do we look at context?Can we completely remove it from its context and expect to get the true meaning? Also if you consider verse 17, "His disciples asked Him about the parable," yet "all things are clean food" is taught as doctrine, not as parable........Again in context verse 17, parable. SO Messiah proceeds to explain further:

18 He said to them;Are you also without understanding? Do you not perceive that whatever enters a man from outside cannot defile him,

19 Because it does not enter into his heart; mind, but his stomach, and then into the toilet as all food is eliminated?

19 For it doesn’t go into their heart but into their stomach, and then out of the body.” (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods clean.)

Now this is where the deception comes in, as you see I have shown verse 19 translated 2 different ways. Which one is correct? The second translation is the much more common translation, here is a short list of translations that match the second translation (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods clean): New International Version, New Living Translation, English Standard Version, New American Standard Bible, Holman Christian Standard Bible, NET Bible, GOD'S WORD Translation, English Revised Version, Weymouth New Testament.

We will look at the original language, but first I want to mention again, CONTEXT, can we somehow go from the whole topic being about a hand washing ritual and unclean animals not even being in the discussion to unclean animals are now food?

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The first thing you will notice is the words, "In saying this, Jesus declared all foods clean," are completely absent. Before moving on, I want to ask, why did someone feel the need to forge words into the text that are not there. Is it ok to just add words wherever I want? Of course not.

19 Because it does not enter into his heart but his stomach, and then into the toilet (856) as all food is cleansed out (2511)?

19 For it doesn’t go into their heart but into their stomach, and then out of the body.” (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods clean.)

856 - aphedrón
aphedrón: a place of sitting apart, i.e. a privy, drain
Original Word: ἀφεδρών, ῶνος, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: aphedrón
Phonetic Spelling: (af-ed-rone')
Short Definition: a drain, latrine
Definition: a drain, latrine
Word Origin - from apo and hedraios
Definition - a place of sitting apart, i.e. a privy, drain

2511 - katharizó

katharizó: to cleanse
Original Word: καθαρίζω
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: katharizó
Phonetic Spelling: (kath-ar-id'-zo)
Short Definition: I make clean
Definition: I cleanse, make clean, literally, ceremonially, or spiritually, according to context.
Word Origin - from katharos
Definition - to cleanse

20 Then He said: That which comes out of the man, that defiles the man;

21 For from within--out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders,

22 Thefts, lust, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, and foolishness--

23 All these evil things come from within, and defile the man."

No this is not about pork, it is about the pharisee making a show they are holy with their appearances, but Messiah is saying evil is that which should be guarded against.

This exact same account is also detailed in Mattithyah 15, and this is also shown there:

Mattithyah 15:2-3, "Why do Your disciples transgress the traditions of the elders? For they do not wash their hands when they eat. But He answered, and said to them: And why do you transgress the Laws of Yahweh by your traditions?"

Mattithyah 15:17, "Do you not yet understand that whatever enters in at the mouth goes into the stomach, and then is cast out in elimination?"

But is we keep readin we see the meaning of the PARABLE:

Mark 7:17, " But when He had left the people and entered the house, His disciples asked Him about the parable."

Mattithyah 15:15, "But Kepha spoke, and said to Him; Explain this parable to us."

Kepha is Peter, so if all foods were cleansed why did Kepha years later still not eat unclean food?

Acts 10:14, "But Kepha said; By no means, Ruler, for I have never eaten anything that is common or unclean."

Because Mark 7 & and Matt 15 were not about food but a pharisee hand washing ritual as the parable is explained here same event, but the full explanation was not given, as Matt was His disciple and there with Him when it happened:

Mattithyah 15:20, "These are the things which defile a man--but to eat with unwashed hands does not defile a man."

As Acts 10 was not about food either:

Acts 10:28, "And he said to them; You yourselves are aware how it is not Lawful for a Yahdai to associate with one of another nation, or to enter his house; but Yahweh has shown me that I must not call any man common or unclean."

So in Mattithyah the parable is fully explained, yet in Mark it is not, is it possibe that is why those false words were added to Mark 7:19? If they were added to Mattithyah 15, it would have been a contradiction, but Mark having not being fully explained, it left the door open.
 
Your mind is closed. It is what comes out of the heart that makes a person unclean, not what goes into the stomach, as Jesus said.
Legalism is as alive today as it was 2,000 years ago. The Pharisees of Jesus day kept the legalistic law faultlessly. They tithed down to their last mint, dill and cumin. They attended all of the synagogue(church today) meetings. They knew the literal words of the then scriptures inside out. They were well educated. They did good deeds(albeit publically) They would not have used foul language, smoked I am sure if smoking had then been invented, they would not have had extra marital affairs or got drunk. They even laid flowers on the graves of the prophets murdered by their forefathers and said. ''We would never have acted as they did'' But it was not enough, Jesus said they did not even know his father. He told them prostitutes and tax collectors(considered the lowest of the low) would enter the kingdom of Heaven ahead of them
 
Your mind is closed. It is what comes out of the heart that makes a person unclean, not what goes into the stomach, as Jesus said.
Legalism is as alive today as it was 2,000 years ago. The Pharisees of Jesus day kept the legalistic law faultlessly. They tithed down to their last mint, dill and cumin. They attended all of the synagogue(church today) meetings. They knew the literal words of the then scriptures inside out. They were well educated. They did good deeds(albeit publically) They would not have used foul language, smoked I am sure if smoking had then been invented, they would not have had extra marital affairs or got drunk. They even laid flowers on the graves of the prophets murdered by their forefathers and said. ''We would never have acted as they did'' But it was not enough, Jesus said they did not even know his father. He told them prostitutes and tax collectors(considered the lowest of the low) would enter the kingdom of Heaven ahead of them

The Pharisees of Jesus day kept the legalistic law faultlessly.

NO.

Mark 7
7 But in vain do they worship Me, teaching as doctrine the commandments of men.

8 For laying aside the Law of Yahweh, you hold the tradition of men!

9 Then He said to them: How well you reject the Law of Yahweh, so that you may keep your own tradition!




this is what comes from every pulpit in America, but it is not true according to Scripture. You use a double standard that many use, they take what the pharisees walked in (their own law) and paste that over the top of the Creator's Instructions and throw both out....





The Messiah was rebuking the pharisees for enforcing a hand washing ritual and calling it sin if any one did not. The disciples asked, what is the meaning of the parable" but you know better than the disciples or better than the meaning of the parable explained in context. but im the one with a closed mind. OK. yea like I said eariler, this is pointelss, you dont even breakdown what is written you vaguely use Scriptural principles in an abstract form "proving your doctrine"