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Salvation is about regeneration whereby a person is changed spiritually and whereby God lives within them (Titus 3:5). This is salvation. Holiness and fruitful works is the result of regeneration or salvation. We do not earn our salvation by doing good works. Good works are just the proof God lives within you.
 
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Quick Review:
Circumcision of the Heart in the Old Testament.

(Which is obviously a spiritual renewal of one's heart):

Deuteronomy 10:16

"Circumcise therefore the foreskin of your heart, and be no more stiffnecked."

Deuteronomy 30:6

"And the LORD thy God will circumcise thine heart, and the heart of thy seed, to love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, that thou mayest live."

Jeremiah 4:4

"Circumcise yourselves to the LORD, and take away the foreskins of your heart, ye men of Judah and inhabitants of Jerusalem: lest my fury come forth like fire, and burn that none can quench it, because of the evil of your doings."

Ezekiel 44:9

"Thus saith the Lord GOD; No stranger, uncircumcised in heart, nor uncircumcised in flesh, shall enter into my sanctuary, of any stranger that is among the children of Israel."

Leviticus 26:41

"And that I also have walked contrary unto them, and have brought them into the land of their enemies; if then their uncircumcised hearts be humbled, and they then accept of the punishment of their iniquity:."

Jeremiah 9:26

"Egypt, and Judah, and Edom, and the children of Ammon, and Moab, and all that are in the utmost corners, that dwell in the wilderness: for all these nations are uncircumcised, and all the house of Israel are uncircumcised in the heart."

Having A New Heart in the Old Testament:

Ezekiel 11:19

"And I will give them one heart, and I will put a new spirit within you; and I will take the stony heart out of their flesh, and will give them an heart of flesh"

Ezekiel 18:31

"Cast away from you all your transgressions, whereby ye have transgressed; and make you a new heart and a new spirit: for why will ye die, O house of Israel?"

Ezekiel 36:26

"A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh."

Circumcision of the Heart in the New Testament:

Acts 7:51

"Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye."

Spiritual Circumcision in the New Testament:

Philippians 3:3

"For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh."

Romans 2:28-29

28 "For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:

29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God."

Colossians 2:11

"In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ"



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Salvation is about regeneration whereby a person is changed spiritually and whereby God lives within them (Titus 3:5). This is salvation. Holiness and fruitful works is the result of regeneration or salvation. We do not earn our salvation by doing good works. Good works are just the proof God lives within you.
if we can't earn salvation.

we can't earn our way out of salvation either.

thus, eternal security is true, or you are trying to earn your salvation.

The galation church had false teachers who taught you could lose salvation also. Paul called anyone who listened to them fools.


Galatians 3:3
Are you so foolish? Having begun in the Spirit, are you now being made perfect by the flesh?
 
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did you even read what I listed? It seems to agree with your reply. :confused:
I re-read it again. Sorry about that. Yes, I agree with the entire list except #4. I believe that there are some who are saved for a short time or only for a certain period of time, but because they chose not to endure, they are not the type of believer who had a deep root relationship with God and His Word (i.e. God's Elect or Chosen). Those who believed for a short time are born again but they chose to walk away from God. I say this because:

#1. This is confirmed by Scripture.
#2. Are free will is not taken away after we believe.
#3. God is faithful to His promise in those that act on His Word (Even those who He knows will not endure).
 
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I pray you one day find this assurance yourself.
I already have such an "assurance", but my "assurance" includes many things contained within the epistle to the Hebrews (and the rest of the Bible, too) which you and others so regularly discount or dismiss. For example:

Hebrews chapter 12

[1] Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us,
[2] Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.
[3] For consider him that endured such contradiction of sinners against himself, lest ye be wearied and faint in your minds.
[4] Ye have not yet resisted unto blood, striving against sin.
[5] And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him:
[6] For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.
[7] If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
[8] But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.
[9] Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?
[10] For they verily for a few days chastened us after their own pleasure; but he for our profit, that we might be partakers of his holiness.
[11] Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby.
[12] Wherefore lift up the hands which hang down, and the feeble knees;
[13] And make straight paths for your feet, lest that which is lame be turned out of the way; but let it rather be healed.
[14] Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord:
[15] Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled;
[16] Lest there be any fornicator, or profane person, as Esau, who for one morsel of meat sold his birthright.
[17] For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears.


IOW, I fully recognize that I need to "lay aside sin", "patiently FINISH my race", "let that which is lame be healed via repentance LEST I BE TURNED OUT OF THE WAY when God chastises me and I refuse to repent", "follow peace and holiness without which NO MAN shall see the Lord", "LOOK DILIGENTLY LEST I FAIL OF THE GRACE OF GOD" which false teachers and heretics like you and several others here stubbornly and defiantly insist is impossible, "avoid fornication" and avoid "SELLING MY BIRTHRIGHT".

You're a heretic, friend...and I'm not going to ever sugarcoat the same.

Heretics will not inherit the kingdom of God (Galatians 5:19-21).
 
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I re-read it again. Sorry about that. Yes, I agree with the entire list except #4. I believe that there are some who are saved for a short time or only for a certain period of time, but because they chose not to endure, they are not the type of believer who had a deep root relationship with God and His Word (i.e. God's Elect or Chosen). I say this because:

#1. This is confirmed by Scripture.
#2. Are free will is not taken away after we believe.
#3. God is faithful to His promise in those that act on His Word (Even those who He knows will not endure).

So you believe God will save someone, and give them the GIFT of eternal life. knowing they will turn back to sin?

I must ask. did they have true faith to begin with? or just a mental agreement, with no faith. but were dogs, who returned to their own vomit, or as John said, were never of us, for if they were of us they would have never departed from us, but they departed to prove they were not of us?


it takes alot of self effort to endure, and alot of work. if your doing it on your own.. so yet again, here is the works based gospel coming to full bloom.
 
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I already have such an "assurance", but my "assurance" includes many things contained within the epistle to the Hebrews (and the rest of the Bible, too) which you and others so regularly discount or dismiss. For example:

IOW, I fully recognize that I NEED to "lay aside sin", "patiently FINISH MY race", "let that which is lame be healed via repentance LEST I BE TURNED OUT OF THE WAY when God chastises me and I refuse to repent", "follow peace and holiness without which NO MAN shall see the Lord", "LOOK DILIGENTLY LEST I FAIL OF THE GRACE OF GOD" which false teachers and heretics like you and several others here stubbornly and defiantly insist is impossible, "avoid fornication" and avoid "SELLING MY BIRTHRIGHT".

You're a heretic, friend...and I'm not going to ever sugarcoat the same.

Heretics will not inherit the kingdom of God (Galatians 5:19-21).

Here is the defenition of a heretic. And as I posted earlier, Paul calls you a fool.

A person who turns the grace gift of God into a works, earned salvation.

I highlighted the self imposed works you say are required to EARN eternal life.

Your just proved by your very statement, your faith is not in God, Your faith is in your ability to do all the things you claimed you MUST DO, ie, it is in yourself.

Good luck in trusting yourself.

As for me and my household. we will trust the Lord.


News flash. You can do ALL of those things, and still not be worthy of eternal life. why? because the law still condemns you. You my friend, are under law, not under grace, you have no knowledge of what grace is.. You are like the pharisee, showing everyone all you DO, or MUST DO, and how your not like the sinner,

And have failed to be the tax collector. who lived a life of sin, And came to God on his knees begging for Gods mercy.

As jesus said, he went away justified (declared innocent), not the pharisee.

You my friend, are the pharisee.




 
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Obviously Paul says this is utterly wrong.
Ephesians 1 NASB
13 In Him, you also, after listening to the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation -having also believed, you were sealed in Him with the Holy Spirit of promise,
14 who is given as a pledge of our inheritance, with a view to the redemption of God's own possession, to the praise of His glory.

What does God's giving the Holy Spirit "as a pledge of our inheritance" mean, Ken? Do you fail to grasp this is a legal real estate term? It is "earnest money," a down payment guaranteeing our redemption "of God's own possession"! -- that would be you, Ken, assuming you actually have faith to believe in Christ, which I think is a very safe assumption.
Yes, "earnest money" is "a legal real estate term", BUT "earnest money" can be returned to the one who gave it. In fact, twice, in just the last four years, my wife and I have received back "earnest money" which we had given when the houses which we "earnestly" intended to buy FAILED INSPECTION.

Somebody will get it...
 
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Yes, "earnest money" is "a legal real estate term", BUT "earnest money" can be returned to the one who gave it. In fact, twice, in just the last four years, my wife and I have received back "earnest money" which we had given when the houses which we "earnestly" intended to buy FAILED INSPECTION.

Somebody will get it...
1 john 2: [SUP]19 [/SUP]They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us; but they went out that they might be made manifest, that none of them were of us.

[SUP]26 [/SUP]These things I have written to you concerning those who try to deceive you. [SUP]27 [/SUP]But the anointing which you have received from Him abides in you, and you do not need that anyone teach you; but as the same anointing teaches you concerning all things, and is true, and is not a lie, and just as it has taught you, you willabide in Him.

Somebody may get it.
 
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Here is the defenition of a heretic. And as I posted earlier, Paul calls you a fool.

A person who turns the grace gift of God into a works, earned salvation.

I highlighted the self imposed works you say are required to EARN eternal life.

Your just proved by your very statement, your faith is not in God, Your faith is in your ability to do all the things you claimed you MUST DO, ie, it is in yourself.

Good luck in trusting yourself.

As for me and my household. we will trust the Lord.


News flash. You can do ALL of those things, and still not be worthy of eternal life. why? because the law still condemns you. You my friend, are under law, not under grace, you have no knowledge of what grace is.. You are like the pharisee, showing everyone all you DO, or MUST DO, and how your not like the sinner,

And have failed to be the tax collector. who lived a life of sin, And came to God on his knees begging for Gods mercy.

As jesus said, he went away justified (declared innocent), not the pharisee.

You my friend, are the pharisee.




So, you're not only a heretic, but a liar as well?

I never said nor even implied that I need to do any of the above by myself.

Rather, it is by the grace of God and the very Spirit of grace which the writer of the epistle to the Hebrews mentioned that I am able to accomplish as much with God's help as I truly submit and yield to Him.

Btw, according to Jesus (not that some of you pay Him any mind), here is the true distinction between a Pharisee and a Christian:

Matthew chapter 5

[17] Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
[18] For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
[19] Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
[20] For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
[21] Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:
[22] But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
[23] Therefore if thou bring thy gift to the altar, and there rememberest that thy brother hath ought against thee;
[24] Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way; first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift.
[25] Agree with thine adversary quickly, whiles thou art in the way with him; lest at any time the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison.
[26] Verily I say unto thee, Thou shalt by no means come out thence, till thou hast paid the uttermost farthing.
[27] Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:
[28] But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
[29] And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
[30] And if thy right hand offend thee, cut if off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
[31] It hath been said, Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement:
[32] But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.
[33] Again, ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself, but shalt perform unto the Lord thine oaths:
[34] But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God's throne:
[35] Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King.
[36] Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black.
[37] But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.
[38] Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:
[39] But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.
[40] And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloke also.
[41] And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain.
[42] Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.
[43] Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
[44] But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
[45] That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
[46] For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?
[47] And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?
[48] Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.


Yes, unlike the Pharisees of old and the modern day Pharisees like yourself, Utah and several others here, Jesus said that we are to DO AND TEACH the commandments which He went on to explain. Yes, Jesus went on to contrast a mere outward keeping of the Old Testament commandments or that which "they had heard had been said of them of old time" with the INWARD KEEPING OF THE SAME IN THE LIVES OF NEW TESTAMENT SAINTS OR CHRISTIANS. Yes, every time that Jesus said "but I say unto you", He went on to explain how these very same Old Testament commandments pertain to New Testament saints.

Well, again, I don't expect you to hear it in that Jesus said that those who are not of God cannot hear God's Words (John chapter 8), but I do hope that there are some who are following this thread who still have ears to hear what God's Spirit is actually saying.

Impenitent Pharisees like yourself have nothing to look forward to other than the damnation of hell.

Personally, I'm innocent of your blood and the blood of all of the other likeminded Pharisees here who are just as lost as you presently are.
 
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1 john 2: [SUP]19 [/SUP]They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us; but they went out that they might be made manifest, that none of them were of us.

[SUP]26 [/SUP]These things I have written to you concerning those who try to deceive you. [SUP]27 [/SUP]But the anointing which you have received from Him abides in you, and you do not need that anyone teach you; but as the same anointing teaches you concerning all things, and is true, and is not a lie, and just as it has taught you, you willabide in Him.

Somebody may get it.
Apparently, that somebody isn't you.

Those who had received the "earnest money" received the same from God, so how can you even imply that they were never saved to begin with?

You need a lot of help, friend.

Thankfully, there's still time for you to repent.
 
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So, you're not only a heretic, but a liar as well?

I never said nor even implied that I need to do any of the above by myself.

You said I must do these things, I MUST this, I must that.

a pharisee gospel is a gospel of I's. (thank God I am not like , Thank God I do this, Thank God I do not do that)

A gospel of Christ is a gospel of GOD did this, GOD did that, God promised this, God will keep his promise.

You got caught in a scam, trying nto say your not working to earn salvation, now your trying to back out of it.

God luck, your words speak very clearly as to what you believe.
 
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Apparently, that somebody isn't you.

Those who had received the "earnest money" received the same from God, so how can you even imply that they were never saved to begin with?

You need a lot of help, friend.

Thankfully, there's still time for you to repent.
Your argument is with john.

He said they were never of us (saved)

now you want to twist it?


I can have something given to me in my hands, and carry it, It does not mean I ever accepted it and made it my own. or trusted that that thing could do anything for me. I can always give it back.

Those who recieve it with gladness, and trust what it can give them, would never give it back

Yet again, you people do not know what true faith is.. You think a wishy washy faith, which is no faith at all (dead) can save a person.

get over yourselves. Your not worthy of anything, never will be,

maybe when you finally realise this, you will finally repent and come to God and fully recieve his grace gift.
 
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Impenitent Pharisees like yourself have nothing to look forward to other than the damnation of hell.

Personally, I'm innocent of your blood and the blood of all of the other likeminded Pharisees here who are just as lost as you presently are.
You do not even know what a pharisee is.

do you see me going around professing how I did this, I did that, I am not a sinner, I can do whatever I want, I can excuse my sin, because it is not as bad as adolf hilter (like you are doing)

Your the one who is impenitent. Your faith is in self, and your ability to do those thing, or not fall off your legalistic view of what gets a person saved, not me.


your right though, with all I can offer god, and all I could ever do. all I have to look forward to is the damnation of hell. because it is what I have deserved, am deserving, and will forever deserve.

But I have the promise of God, and his eternal life. I have been given his spirit as a guarantee, I have been adopted as his son, I was not given the spirit of fear (like you are preaching) but the spirit of adoption. I go to my Abba father, I do not hide from him.


You problem is you think you have somhow stopped deserving hell. and because of it, you will never see your need for Christ.
 
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You do not even know what a pharisee is.

do you see me going around professing how I did this, I did that, I am not a sinner, I can do whatever I want, I can excuse my sin, because it is not as bad as adolf hilter (like you are doing)

Your the one who is impenitent. Your faith is in self, and your ability to do those thing, or not fall off your legalistic view of what gets a person saved, not me.


your right though, with all I can offer god, and all I could ever do. all I have to look forward to is the damnation of hell. because it is what I have deserved, am deserving, and will forever deserve.

But I have the promise of God, and his eternal life. I have been given his spirit as a guarantee, I have been adopted as his son, I was not given the spirit of fear (like you are preaching) but the spirit of adoption. I go to my Abba father, I do not hide from him.


You problem is you think you have somhow stopped deserving hell. and because of it, you will never see your need for Christ.
Do you DO AND TEACH the things of which Jesus spoke in Matthew chapter 5?

Yes or no?

Of course, you don't and you also regularly rail against those who DO AND TEACH the same.

Admit it, friend...you're in opposition to Christ and His Words and the reason for the same is that the spirit of antichrist is who is fueling you and several of your equally as Pharisaical friends.

Well, I've said enough.

You can all just continue on as you were...
 
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Salvation is about regeneration whereby a person is changed spiritually and whereby God lives within them (Titus 3:5). This is salvation. Holiness and fruitful works is the result of regeneration or salvation. We do not earn our salvation by doing good works. Good works are just the proof God lives within you.[/QUOTE

How can you make a TRUE statement like this and then say that it is up to YOU to keep your salvation.
You are teaching that the receiving of salvation is of God , but the keeping of salvation is of man.
I do not live in sin. Sin does not control my life. But yes I sin every day. I confess those sin every day. And I am forgiven every day.
You can call it mistakes or slipping up if you wish, but sin is sin.
 
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Do you DO AND TEACH the things of which Jesus spoke in Matthew chapter 5?

Yes or no?

Of course, you don't and you also regularly rail against those who DO AND TEACH the same.
of course I do.

when are you going to become poor (literally in the greek bankrupt) in spirit? so you can repent of your dead works, and come to Christ,

you will not be blessed until you do it.

there is no bankrupsy in your spirit, you still think your earning your right to eternal life. you have not come to the point of death yet.


as for the rest, I have actually had christian brothers and sisters tell me I am getting legalistic on them, because I confront them on their sin, and demand they do the same to me. You do not know me at all.. nor do you know God.


Admit it, friend...you're in opposition to Christ and His Words and the reason for the same is that the spirit of antichrist is who is fueling you and several of your equally as Pharisaical friends.
You do not even know what a pharisee is, so you should stop talking, your making yourself look like a fool. there is nothing pharisee even remotely in our gospel.

Well, I've said enough.

You can all just continue on as you were...
yeah you have, everyone with an open mind now knows the true pharisee you are.
 
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How can you make a TRUE statement like this and then say that it is up to YOU to keep your salvation.
You are teaching that the receiving of salvation is of God , but the keeping of salvation is of man.
I do not live in sin. Sin does not control my life. But yes I sin every day. I confess those sin every day. And I am forgiven every day.
You can call it mistakes or slipping up if you wish, but sin is sin.
The legalist has to call their sin a "slip" or a "mistake" they can;t take accountability for their own sin and accept it, and ignore alot of their sin, or they find they can not live up to the standard they try to impose on others.
 
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Yes, "earnest money" is "a legal real estate term", BUT "earnest money" can be returned to the one who gave it. In fact, twice, in just the last four years, my wife and I have received back "earnest money" which we had given when the houses which we "earnestly" intended to buy FAILED INSPECTION.

Somebody will get it...
Are you saying that God will renege on his promise? I know men do but GOD?

earnest - arrabon - originally "earnest-money" deposited by the purchaser and forfeited if the purchase was not completed, was probably a Phoenician word introduce into Greece. In general usage it came to denote "a pledge" or "earnest" of any sort; in the NT it is used only of that which is assured by God to believers; it is said of the Holy Spirit as the divine "pledge" of all their future blessedness; 2 Cor. 1:22; 5:5; in Eph. 1:14, particularly of their eternal inheritance.
Vine's Concise Dictionary of the Bible

We are sealed with the holy Spirit - God's mark upon those who hear and believe. It may be a down payment of what is to come but we are "purchased possessions" - purchased by the blood of God's only begotten Son. [Eph. 1:7 In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace] That "earnest"/"pledge" and "sealing" are there until the day of redemption when God comes and claims his purchased possessions. [Eph. 4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.]

Somebody will get it . . . :)
 
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A gospel of Christ is a gospel of GOD did this, GOD did that, God promised this, God will keep his promise.

You got caught in a scam, trying nto say your not working to earn salvation, now your trying to back out of it.

A gospel of Christ is also a gospel of obedience on our part:

in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. [SUP]9 [/SUP]These shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power, (2 Thessalonians 2:8-9)

For the time has come for judgment to begin at the house of God; and if it begins with us first, what will be the end of those who do not obey the gospel of God? (1 Peter 4:17)

Moreover, brethren, I declare to you the gospel which I preached to you, which also you received and in which you stand, [SUP]2 [/SUP]by which also you are saved, if you hold fast that word which I preached to you—unless you believed in vain. (1 Corinthians 15:1-2)

if indeed you continue in the faith, grounded and steadfast, and are not moved away from the hope of the gospel which you heard, which was preached to every creature under heaven, of which I, Paul, became a minister. (Colossians 1:23)


But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Isaiah says, “Lord, who has believed our report?” (Romans 10:16)


As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed. (Galatians 1:9)