No bottom to obama's wickedness. Can America survive him?
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Viligant_Warrior
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If you're a Christian and you have anything else in your top three, you've surrendered to the world.
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Sirk
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He just glad he got to keep his health insurance policy AND his doctor. That's 2 I guess. What's your 3rd nautilus?
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3Scoreand10
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I did not say that is all I care about, I said that is where I begin.
If they do not meet that standard, I move on to the next person.
I am not a Rep. Or a Dem., I am a born again beliver.
I have voted for Rep., Dem., Ind., Male , Female, White, and Black.
I have also left some lines on the ballot blank only because I could not vote for NONE of the above.
To vote for a person that supports killing babies, gay marriage, or is anti Israel is saying you support those sins also.
Oh come on just cause you have a different opinion from Nautilus doesn't mean anyone has surrendered to the world....you only do that when you turn away from God.....We just have some religious and political differences.....Don't anyone start talking about money now or we will have all the topics going that we should not discuss.....lol
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1still_waters
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America survived decades of presidents who favored slavery and other assorted evils. Human rights violations against native americans. You get the idea.
Hopefully America works though this, and reaches a place of repentance.
Hopefully America works though this, and reaches a place of repentance.
Last line is a nice thought but a little bit idealistic as I think until Jesus comes it just goes downhill from here.....
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1still_waters
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Past evils America's leaders supported
1. Genocide of native Americans.
2. Slavery
3. Discrimination
4. Child labor
5. Segregation
Evils Americans deal with now...
1. Same sex marriage
2. Abortion
3. Many others
For the most part America survived and changed from the first list, no reason America can't survive and repent of the second list.
1. Genocide of native Americans.
2. Slavery
3. Discrimination
4. Child labor
5. Segregation
Evils Americans deal with now...
1. Same sex marriage
2. Abortion
3. Many others
For the most part America survived and changed from the first list, no reason America can't survive and repent of the second list.
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kennethcadwell
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I don't know who is going to be picked as the main running candidates of the two parties this next election as it is still early, but after the crap and mess the first two Bushes put and left us in if people really vote for another Bush they need to reevaluate their thought process.
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Viligant_Warrior
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Really? Not what the Bible says ...
Mark 4 NASB
18 "And others are the ones on whom seed was sown among the thorns; these are the ones who have heard the word,
19 but the worries of the world, and the deceitfulness of riches, and the desires for other things enter in and choke the word, and it becomes unfruitful."
18 "And others are the ones on whom seed was sown among the thorns; these are the ones who have heard the word,
19 but the worries of the world, and the deceitfulness of riches, and the desires for other things enter in and choke the word, and it becomes unfruitful."
That's the parable of the seeds, obviously, and this is the "hard soil" seed that takes root but never produces fruit. The word "unfruitful" is the Greek akarpoß (akarpos) which means "not yielding what it ought to yield." In other words, Christians can produce no fruit and still be Christians, not turned away from God but not unaware of the things of the world, either, to the extent that their concerns with the world keep them from concentrating on the things of God.
Agreed, but please explain to me how religious differences of that type can exist between Christians? If we are all hearing from the same Holy Spirit, how do we hear different things? Answer that, and we can talk further.
Your's 1st list is severely flawed.
1. Virtually every nation on earth was created by conquest and war. The Indians were not as pure as the wind driven snow. They were brutal towards each other,and the settlers, they were at best pagan and worst demonic. For the most part they died as a result of a lack of immunity from European diseases. Were atrocities committed against them? Yep. Did THEY commit atrocities? You bet.
2. There is this notion that America invented slavery. The truth is that the lion's share of african slaves went to the West indies, central, and South America. NONE of those countries fought a bloody war to right that wrong as America did. Slavery has existed for all of human history, yet it seems only America ever gets the knock for it.
3. Discrimination? Pretty vague concept there. This sounds like your'e trying to double-dip on #2!
4.Child labor? Umm.. whatever. You make it sound like greedy capitalists went into peoples homes, stole their kids, without parental consent, also ONLY happening in America.
5.Again a bit of double-dippin here, but if you want to believe that the democrats aren't deliberately segregating blacks today, then I'd say you haven't been in very many inner cities, where dems are fighting tooth and nail against school choice, and getting the people addicted to welfare programs.
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JustinFromTwinCities
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The politics of men and the devil are a waste of time at best and a huge deception (Hegelian Dialectic - https://www.fhu.com/hegelian.html) designed to draw our attention away from God at worst. At least thats my opinion. A prayer to God must be more powerful than a vote in Satan's worldly systems. Pretty sure everyone in Sodom and Gomorrah would have voted against being destroyed and voted against changing their ways as well.
2 Timothy 2:3
3 Share in suffering as a good soldier of Christ Jesus. 4 No soldier gets entangled in civilian pursuits, since his aim is to please the one who enlisted him.
2 Timothy 2:3
3 Share in suffering as a good soldier of Christ Jesus. 4 No soldier gets entangled in civilian pursuits, since his aim is to please the one who enlisted him.
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JustinFromTwinCities
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And
Philipians 3:12-21
12 Not that I have already obtained this or am already perfect, but I press on to make it my own, because Christ Jesus has made me his own. 13 Brothers, I do not consider that I have made it my own. But one thing I do: forgetting what lies behind and straining forward to what lies ahead, 14 I press on toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus. 15 Let those of us who are mature think this way, and if in anything you think otherwise, God will reveal that also to you. 16 Only let us hold true to what we have attained.
17 Brothers, join in imitating me, and keep your eyes on those who walk according to the example you have in us. 18 For many, of whom I have often told you and now tell you even with tears, walk as enemies of the cross of Christ. 19 Their end is destruction, their god is their belly, and they glory in their shame, with minds set on earthly things. 20 But our citizenship is in heaven, and from it we await a Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ, 21 who will transform our lowly body to be like his glorious body, by the power that enables him even to subject all things to himself.
Philipians 3:12-21
12 Not that I have already obtained this or am already perfect, but I press on to make it my own, because Christ Jesus has made me his own. 13 Brothers, I do not consider that I have made it my own. But one thing I do: forgetting what lies behind and straining forward to what lies ahead, 14 I press on toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus. 15 Let those of us who are mature think this way, and if in anything you think otherwise, God will reveal that also to you. 16 Only let us hold true to what we have attained.
17 Brothers, join in imitating me, and keep your eyes on those who walk according to the example you have in us. 18 For many, of whom I have often told you and now tell you even with tears, walk as enemies of the cross of Christ. 19 Their end is destruction, their god is their belly, and they glory in their shame, with minds set on earthly things. 20 But our citizenship is in heaven, and from it we await a Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ, 21 who will transform our lowly body to be like his glorious body, by the power that enables him even to subject all things to himself.
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JustinFromTwinCities
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We are all on a sinking ship and most people don't even realize it. Do you really want to spend your time worrying about who the captain and first mate are and what they are doing?
Two questions. Why is the USA being called on by other nations to step up as the world police when things are bad , but when they are not so bad we are constantly condemned as stepping in to be the world police and two...
What ever happened to journalistic integrity? Despite the heading of the article there is no direct quote from Obama in the article on the matter just the accusations of some catholic priest.
Let the insults roll {to the tune of let the good times roll}.{ dies from immediate flak for using quote from non christian band}
What ever happened to journalistic integrity? Despite the heading of the article there is no direct quote from Obama in the article on the matter just the accusations of some catholic priest.
Let the insults roll {to the tune of let the good times roll}.{ dies from immediate flak for using quote from non christian band}
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1still_waters
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So what if every nation was made this way, doesn't make it any less evil ISIS could use the same line of thinking to justify their land grab.
The Indians mostly died because the white folks coughed on them? Come on man.
Who cares if they were pagan or demonic, doesn't give anyone the right to murder them.
Bottom line is we had leaders who approved of atrocities against them, that can't be canceled out by saying, well others were too, and hey they were demonic pagans with weak immune systems.
Again this doesn't negate the fact that leaders in the USA approved of slavery.
Not really. Discrimination and slavery are substantively different, but both evil.
"Mom they did it too."<---Not a good justification.
Meh..valid point.
let us not forget that those African slaves were sold to the Euros by..... African tribal leaders.. those tribal leaders would sell conquered enemies as slaves to the Euros
Many Black Americans tend to not want to know that it was their own people that sold them as slaves to the Euros, If they accepted fact, they couldn't "blame whitey" anymore.