We have been lied to about Global Warming, but WHY?

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Human said:
Heat content is a thermodynamic quantity equal to the internal energy of a system plus the product of its volume and pressure; the measurement thereof allowing us to see its enthalpy, or the amount of energy in a system capable of doing mechanical work. We work from heat content in joules because different areas of Earth have different pressure systems, dum dum.

Temperature is the degree of heat present in a substance or object as expressed according to a comparative scale such as a thermometer, and we use this method to calculate in simple units the degree of heat content in a specific locale, dum dum.

Temperature is a deductive measure of the average heat or thermal energy of the particles in a substance. HEat content is also a measure of its energetic potential.

The term ''temperature anomaly'' means a departure from a reference value for temperature, which of course, is the temperature from last year, or last month, or whatever specific point you use as reference. Anomaly graphs are temperature graphs, they show temperature deviation from point to point. A positive anomaly indicates that the observed temperature was warmer than the reference value, while a negative anomaly indicates that the observed temperature was cooler than the reference value.

In all the cases above, both the global heat content and the temperature anomaly get larger from 1998 until now.

If you don't understand that this means a rise in global (not local, not surface air, not bloody the temperature of your room, but GLOBAL -- the seas, the air, the atmosphere) temperature, then you're an idiot, and that isn't my problem.
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where is your evidence?
 
Human said:
I know you well enough to know you wouldn't even read it if I gave it to you. But as futile as it is -- here:

http://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/assessment-report/ar5/wg1/WG1AR5_Chapter02_FINAL.pdf
http://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/assessment-report/ar5/wg1/WG1AR5_Chapter03_FINAL.pdf
http://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/assessment-report/ar5/wg1/WG1AR5_Chapter04_FINAL.pdf
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You don't know what you're talking about.

I have, on more than one occassion, given you an 18 year graph of global temperatures, a graph that comes from one of the FOUR MAJOR TEMP DATA SETS, and you refuse to believe ONE OF THE FOUR MAJOR TEMP DATA SETS.

You continue to believe and STEADFASTLY REFUSE to produce EVEN ONE 18 year graph that shows exponential increase, even though I've supplied one (FROM ONE OF THE FOUR MAJOR TEMP DATA SETS, I SHOULD ADD), and you have nothing.

Here's a question for you:

If you're right and your ocean heat index graph leads to exponential increases in temperatures, how come, using the whole internet full of global warming believers, you can't find ONE 18 YEAR TEMPERATURE GRAPH that shows the increase?

Here's why, it doesn't exist. But you're so unscientific that you believe that continuing to post your nonsense will make it so. It doesn't, it just makes you look like someone who will NEVER admit they are wrong.
 
andypro said:
You don't know what you're talking about.

I have, on more than one occassion, given you an 18 year graph of global temperatures, a graph that comes from one of the FOUR MAJOR TEMP DATA SETS, and you refuse to believe ONE OF THE FOUR MAJOR TEMP DATA SETS.

You continue to believe and STEADFASTLY REFUSE to produce EVEN ONE 18 year graph that shows exponential increase, even though I've supplied one (FROM ONE OF THE FOUR MAJOR TEMP DATA SETS, I SHOULD ADD), and you have nothing.

Here's a question for you:

If you're right and your ocean heat content (AND LAND HEAT CONTENT, AND ATMOSPHERIC HEAT CONTENT) index graph leads to (NO, ''ILLUSTRATES'') exponential increases in temperatures, how come, using the whole internet full of global warming believers, you can't find ONE 18 YEAR TEMPERATURE GRAPH that shows the increase?
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Fixed it for you.

You, my silly man, are too scientifically unaware to understand how temperature differs from heat content; too oblivious, even if you were not so scientifically unaware, to recognize temperature anomaly is a representation of temperature increase; and too convicted of your own position to be willing to learn how to correctly understand why heat content measurements and temperature anomaly measurements are accurately portraying an increase in temperature across the planet as a whole entity.

You revert to measurements from partial fragments of Earth's total landscape to say ''the Earth isn't warming''. Surface air doesn't constitute the entirety of Earth. Four major areas do: Surface air, atmosphere/stratosphere, ocean surface/deep ocean, and icy climates.

Here's why, it doesn't exist. But you're so unscientific that you believe that continuing to post your nonsense will make it so. It doesn't, it just makes you look like someone who will NEVER admit they are wrong.
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This is ironic, considering that I -- along with professional climatologists, engineers, marine biologists and such -- say that the planet is warming. If you read the reports from these people, who are much, much, much more qualified to talk on the subject than you are, then you'd see.

Please read even one of the IPCC Fifth Assessment Report sections I have posted several times on this thread as links to PDF documents. Even one. I dare you.
 
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Human said:
You, my silly man, are too scientifically unaware to understand how temperature differs from heat content
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Ok, let's see if that's true, let's see if I don't understand how temperature differs from heat content (when I replied to you, your words are in red):

THAT GRAPH SHOWS THAT EARTH HAS GOTTEN CONTINUALLY WARMER FOR THE LAST 40 YEARS AND ALARMINGLY WARMER FOR THE LAST 15
No it doesn't, it shows ocean heat content has increased. You're confusing your graphs again.

"Now, I've shown there is a definite increase in global average temperature"
Nope, what you've done is once again shown is that you can take any graph that shows an increase, and then claim it's global warming (hey, you're Michael Mann). If you'll look carefully at your graph, it's shows the change in total heat content

But the question isn't "what's the change in total heat content of the oceans", the proper question is "what does an increase of approximately 8.6 times 10 to the 22nd power joules mean for global average temperatures? Please answer that question.

Sorry, zippy, as was explained to you SEVERAL times, that first graph is a graph of the change in ocean heat content, not global temperatures.

Well, what do you know, looks like all along it was I who was trying to get YOU to see the difference.


HOWEVER, there was one scientifically illiterate moron who confused the two:

"You're obviously too mathematically under informed to understand that an increase heat content is the same thing as an increase in heat"

YOU said this in reference to the ocean heat graph.

Now, this is the second time I've CONTINUALLY tried to get you to see your error, and the second time that as soon as you FINALLY realized what an idiot you were, you accused me of making YOUR error. I won't let it happen again.

So, if everything you say is true, I'm sure you have a graph for the last 18 years, that shows the temperature of the entire globe, that shows massive, exponential global warming.

Well, as you, I, and everyone who reads this knows, you have no such graph, because....

THERE HAS BEEN NO GLOBAL WARMING FOR 18 YEARS!!!!!!!

I really can't wait until moment you FINALLY realize that there has been no global warming for the last 18 years and then accuse me of saying there was. Have fun deluding yourself. And, hey, where's that graph?

(The funny thing for me is imagining how much time he's spent scouring the internet for just one graph, and not being able to find even one, surely he knows by now that it doesn't exist, because, you know...science. But he just can't admit it. Hysterical)
 
Lizathrose said:
That's an appropriate response to willful ignorance.
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As Spock would say "fascinating".

That atheists/agnostics are so desperate to believe in something that almost to a person they believe in climate change, facts be damned.

GOD is in control, NOT you! Accept His Son as your Lord and Savior! It's silly to perish when the cure is literally at your fingertips!
 
PennEd said:
As Spock would say "fascinating".

That atheists/agnostics are so desperate to believe in something that almost to a person they believe in climate change, facts be damned.

GOD is in control, NOT you! Accept His Son as your Lord and Savior! It's silly to perish when the cure is literally at your fingertips!
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One of them can no longer hear you, which in a way is a blessing, but is a far larger way quite sad. Only took him five months, too.

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I'd like to know how he accumulated those two little green rectangles. Must've had a sock puppet to rep himself. Wonder if they got the puppet, too.
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Viligant_Warrior said:
One of them can no longer hear you, which in a way is a blessing, but is a far larger way quite sad. Only took him five months, too.

I'd like to know how he accumulated those two little green rectangles. Must've had a sock puppet to rep himself. Wonder if they got the puppet, too.
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See, now I don't get this. It says he was banned, and I saw that at least a week ago. But it says on his page that he posted 3 days ago.

How does that work?
 
Viligant_Warrior said:
...I'd like to know how he accumulated those two little green rectangles....
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all the bigs words in the just previous post... doesn't matter or mean anything.

watch pbs oeta educational tv on the plight of the polar bears and the last tri-idirot ? (the race in alaska or canada) and the disappearing glaciers and the disappearing arctic and aunt artic(uncle ed?) ....

and so on..... casually.... and remember that

regardless of the governments and
regardless of the scientists view on heat and cold, the bible says clearly what will happen. read it.
 
Ofcourse global warming is a lie. We just had the two coldest winters in Illinois for years. Also when you see global warming idiots like obama and gore running around spewing literal garbage out of their mouths and expecting every one else to cut, but they live like kings and are some of the biggest poluters, you know it's not real. I ignore all of it, except for what God's word says for these last days.
 
joker32 said:
Ofcourse global warming is a lie. We just had the two coldest winters in Illinois for years. Also when you see global warming idiots like obama and gore running around spewing literal garbage out of their mouths and expecting every one else to cut, but they live like kings and are some of the biggest poluters, you know it's not real. I ignore all of it, except for what God's word says for these last days.
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But global warming is global cooling you see.....oh how you ignorant people try to understand the weather and the ecosystem with your practical knowledge and experience. It's just too far over you head for you to understand it. :p
 
Is it getting hot in here or what!!, i blame the natural law of decay, it's universal, apparently.
 
Here is atheist science hoaxer Bill Nye confirming what I said in post 1. The whole hoax is for them to get power over you by "redistributing" your hard work:[video=youtube;EeBeq0i03bg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeBeq0i03bg[/video]
 
I don't understand how someone can fall in God's good grace, while denying that climate change isn't real.
You know carbon has a bad effect on the earth, right? Denying the changes that are happening around you, means you are going to allow or contribute even more harmful things to the planet...Yeah I don't think God likes that.

Love your Planet if you love your God.
 
DedZed said:
I don't understand how someone can fall in God's good grace, while denying that climate change isn't real.
You know carbon has a bad effect on the earth, right? Denying the changes that are happening around you, means you are going to allow or contribute even more harmful things to the planet...Yeah I don't think God likes that.

Love your Planet if you love your God.
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First of all, it's CO2, not CARBON. And as far as it having a bad effect on the earth, that is utterly, completely, and absurdly ridiculous. I would ask you where we would be without CO2, but I'm pretty sure you don't know.

Now, normally I would patiently explain in loving tones, and fill in the grand canyon sized gaps in your knowledge; except for the fact that you are somehow trying to equate belief in fake global warming with being a good Christian. That is a monumentally dumb and absurd leap to make, especially considering your glaring lack of knowledge on the subject.

Feel free to study, read something, and try to learn something about global warming, etc; and feel free to believe whatever fairy tales you would like, but don't ever come back here and accuse Christians of not loving God because they don't fall for the socialism-du-jour, or I'll be right back here berating you for it.
 
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