Putin apologists, explain this: Most vocal critic of Russian president shot dead

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Boris Nemtsov, leading Putin critic, shot and killed in Moscow

A top political nemesis of President Vladimir Putin was shot and killed early Saturday in central Moscow, Russian police said, one day before an opposition rally was scheduled to take place.

Boris Nemtsov, 55, a former deputy prime minister, was shot four times from a passing car as he was walking on a bridge just outside the Kremlin. The Kremlin said that Putin will personally oversee the investigation into his death.
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Yeah, I just bet he'll "personally oversee" the investigation.

The rat is guarding the cheese.
 
I think it's covered by their Constitution........it's called freedom of the pistol. No wait, that isn't right, it is their law that states they have the right to keep and bear arms against those who oppose them.
 
Hard to tell. Putin typically in the past has either jailed or internally exiled his elitist opponents. Such a high profile assassination be risky for Putin, but Putin has been rather bold lately.

Depending what this fellow was into, it could be Russian mafia involvement too.

Too early to tell for certainty.
 
Yeah we all know Putin is a bad man hiding behind his corrupt policies, it is such a shame that his country lasts longer and is given more scriptural time then the U.S. Heck Russia is even shown to still be around after the millennial reign of Christ, as it is one of two that satan brings against the Lord.
 
p_rehbein said:
yeah, our Government would never do anything to silence their opposition........uh, er, oh no, wait

(well, not shoot them anyway............)
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Here comes the conspiracies...............LOL :cool:
 
GodIsSalvation said:
Hard to tell. Putin typically in the past has either jailed or internally exiled his elitist opponents. Such a high profile assassination be risky for Putin, but Putin has been rather bold lately.

Depending what this fellow was into, it could be Russian mafia involvement too.

Too early to tell for certainty.
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A good question to always ask is...

Who benefits?

Does such an assassination benefit Putin who is enjoying a popularity rating of over 80%? I don't think so.

Anyway we can all make up our own minds as more information becomes evident.

Here is an article with an initial reaction from The Saker whose analysis is usually excellent. The Saker has predicted the events in the Ukraine almost flawlessly going back to 2013 and is well worth reading.


Breaking news: FALSE FLAG IN MOSCOW!


Boris Nemtsov has been shot dead in Moscow. He was one of the most charismatic leaders of the "liberal" or "democratic" "non-system" opposition in Russia (please understand that in the Russian context "liberal" and "democratic" means pro-US or even CIA-run, while "non-system" means too small to even get a single deputy in the Duma). He was shot just a few days before the announced demonstration of the very same "liberal" or "democratic" "non-system" opposition scheduled for March 1st.

As I have already explained many times on this blog, the "liberal" or "democratic" "non-system" opposition in Russia has a popular support somewhere in the range of 5% (max). In other words, it is politically *dead* (for a detailed explanation, please read "From Napoleon to Adolf Hitler to Conchita Wurst"). In the hopes of getting a higher number of people to the streets the "liberal" or "democratic" "non-system"opposition allied itself with the ultra-nationalists (usually useful idiots for the CIA) and the homosexual activists (also useful idiots for the CIA). Apparently, this was not enough.

 And now, in *perfect* timing, Nemtsov is murdered.

 We all know the reaction of the AngloZionists and their propaganda machine. It will be exactly the same as for MH-17: Putin the Murderer!!! Democracy Shot!! Freedom Killed!! etc. etc. etc. etc.

 There is no doubt in my mind at all that either this is a fantastically unlikely but always possible case of really bad luck for Putin and Nemtsov was shot by some nutcase or mugged, or this was a absolutely prototypical western false flag: you take a spent politician who has no credibility left with anyone with an IQ over 70, and you turn him into an instant "martyr for freedom, democracy, human right and civilization".

 By the way if, as I believe, this is a false flag, I expect it to be a stunning success in the West and a total flop in Russia: by now, Russians already can smell that kind of setup a mile away and after MH-17 everybody was expecting a false flag. So, if anything, it will only increase the hostility of Russians towards the West and rally them around Putin. In the Empire, however, this will be huge, better than Politkovskaya or Litvinenko combined. A "Nemtsov" prize will be created, a Nemtov statue will be place somewhere (in Warsaw?), the US Congress will pass a "Nemtsov law" and the usual combo package of "democratic hagiography" will be whipped-up.

 What worries me most is that the Russian security services did not see this one coming and let it happen. This is a major failure for the FSB which will now have a lot at stake to find out who did it. I expect them to find a fall-guy, a patsy, who will have no provable contacts with any western services and who, ideally, might even have some contacts with the Russian services (like Andrei Lugovoi).

 As for the "liberal" or "democratic" "non-system" - it will probably re-brand the upcoming protests as a "tribute to Nemtsov" thereby getting more people into the streets.

 There are folks in Langley tonight who got a promotion.

The Saker
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The Vineyard of the Saker: Breaking news: FALSE FLAG IN MOSCOW!
 
 
Well, we know it is a sin to judge. I wasn't there.

But it is enlightening to read what Daniel 4 says about what sort of men God puts on the throne.
And consider that the King, the real King, is coming.
Justice will prevail. All tears will be wiped away.
We who trust the Savior will live under the only perfect government possible,
as He rules with a rod of iron & not a wet noodle.
 
Atwood said:
Well, we know it is a sin to judge. I wasn't there.

But it is enlightening to read what Daniel 4 says about what sort of men God puts on the throne.
And consider that the King, the real King, is coming.
Justice will prevail. All tears will be wiped away.
We who trust the Savior will live under the only perfect government possible,
as He rules with a rod of iron & not a wet noodle.
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Judging is not a sin.

The Bible condemns hypocritical judgment. We are to judge all things.
 
Skinski7 said:
A good question to always ask is...

Who benefits?

Does such an assassination benefit Putin who is enjoying a popularity rating of over 80%? I don't think so.

Anyway we can all make up our own minds as more information becomes evident.

Here is an article with an initial reaction from The Saker whose analysis is usually excellent. The Saker has predicted the events in the Ukraine almost flawlessly going back to 2013 and is well worth reading.
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Benefits don't always matter in murders. People kill eachother for laundry lists of petty enough reasons and there are plenty of motives to go around in this and plenty of factions in Russia. My mind ain't made up, after all this case is hardly even a day old. Just merely trying to look at the factors here.

I don't believe in this false-flag stuff, it doesn't fit the bill. You got a dead Russian political elite whom seems to been targetted on purpose that is also a dissident. Could be government, could be mafia.

Time and place. What stands out to me is the manner and place where dude was slain. So close to the Kremlin seems somewhat suspicious of government. Drive-bys seem as gangster behavior. Moscow is the seat of Putin, but also one of the biggest mafia infested cities in the world.

Plenty of motives. Dude was about to hold a rally against Putin policies and, from what little I have seen, was a critic of the Ukraine War and pretty staunch political opponent of Putin for a while now. Much motive here for Putin. On the other hand dude was supposedly big on anti-corruption and a liberal, so much motive for the mafia too.

By means and methods. Both have the means, but Putin has jailed this guy all ready, and he has enough ability and a pattern of typically jailing or internal exile (fancy terms to say you're going to gulag or Siberia.) Mafia on the other hand will kill for anything from a contract to some petty personal remark. Plus again, drive-by, that's some straight gangsta stuff right there.

Probably never will know for certain. It seems this investigation won't go anywhere if they are all ready talking about false flag fantasies.
 
p_rehbein said:
yeah, our Government would never do anything to silence their opposition........uh, er, oh no, wait! :)

(well, not shoot them anyway............)
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Perhaps Vince Foster and Ron Brown might have a different opinion. At least the parks service oversaw the Foster investigation.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
kennethcadwell said:
Yeah we all know Putin is a bad man hiding behind his corrupt policies, it is such a shame that his country lasts longer and is given more scriptural time then the U.S. Heck Russia is even shown to still be around after the millennial reign of Christ, as it is one of two that satan brings against the Lord.
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Considering that the traditional interpretation -- which I believe is dead wrong -- is that Russia's military is destroyed in an attack on Israel before the Tribulation, I'm not sure I'd like my country to have that particular seat in future history. I'll gladly let Russia have that.

Has it occurred to anyone that the reason the U.S. isn't in Revelation is because of the pre-Tribulation rapture? Given a choice of being wiped out for our inequity prior to the Trib, or being gone because of the number of citizens who are of the faith, I'll take the latter.
 
Viligant_Warrior said:
Considering that the traditional interpretation -- which I believe is dead wrong -- is that Russia's military is destroyed in an attack on Israel before the Tribulation, I'm not sure I'd like my country to have that particular seat in future history. I'll gladly let Russia have that.

Has it occurred to anyone that the reason the U.S. isn't in Revelation is because of the pre-Tribulation rapture? Given a choice of being wiped out for our inequity prior to the Trib, or being gone because of the number of citizens who are of the faith, I'll take the latter.
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There is no pre-Trib rapture. America will fall soon praise Jesus.

Mark 13:7-13

[SUP]7 [/SUP]And when ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars, be ye not troubled: for such things must needs be; but the end shall not be yet.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be earthquakes in divers places, and there shall be famines and troubles: these are the beginnings of sorrows.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]But take heed to yourselves: for they shall deliver you up to councils; and in the synagogues ye shall be beaten: and ye shall be brought before rulers and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]And the gospel must first be published among all nations.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye: for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Ghost.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]Now the brother shall betray the brother to death, and the father the son; and children shall rise up against their parents, and shall cause them to be put to death.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
 
To get really homespun here, it seems to me like even Putin is getting a little too big for his breeches.
 
We have a little update in this case. It seems the investigation is actually going through quite quickly. I saw this originally on TV on CNN. Since there is no article there yet, here is an article by RT.

5 suspects arrested over Nemtsov murder, 1 'confessed' - court — RT News

According to the article and reports on TV; 5 suspects have been arrested and a 6th suspect committed suicide in Chechnya after a small skirmish with police. According to the report 1 suspect has confessed, three have denied involvement (with one claiming an alibi).
 
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