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I would never be surprised at what God can do. But it remains God's to decide exactly what He will do ... according to His divine will and purpose. Neither you nor I have what it would require to 'keep God in a box".
Luke 19:40 ... I tell you Jesus replied ... if they keep quiet, the stones will cry out.
Luke 19:40 ... I tell you Jesus replied ... if they keep quiet, the stones will cry out.
Please stop lol. Every one at one point has put God in a Box. Whether it comes to finances, faith, growth, ect. Every Christian has put God in a box where God put something on their heart to do something and they had a hard time in believing in what God spoke He would do. I know I have doubted many prophetic words given to me. Especially when God told me to give all my money as a seed offering before I went to Washington DC. But God had a purpose not only did God give me the money back but also over and above that exactly what I believed for. If I would have put God in a box and not stepped out and broke that box then it never would have given God a chance to move.
I will say this that no gift is worth anything without love. Many people chase gifts debating if they still exsist or not. The gift means nothing without the fruit of the Spirit, because the gifts if ability given by the God to do it. The fruit is the character of God to keep it going. Which is more important to be gifted or have a good character? There are many gifted and talented people with no character. The gift gets then there and character keeps them there. In my opnion if we seek after the manifistation of the fruit more and the gifts less we will see more gifts in action correctly.
Amen...at some point I got the message of the New Testament...Love and I stop seeking for gifts but the love to use the gifts in a way that would honor God and not honor me 
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You got your money back ... with interest ! Praise God !! And let's not limit what God can accomplish in our lives when we're willing to put our faith (and giving) to the test, eh Ken ? Others on this thread "liked" and obviously agree with both of you and what it means to trust in God to meet all of our needs in Christ ... so I'll simply move on. Your gospel is not the gospel I seek.
Yes Amen here is another testimony i think you will enjoy.
At the end of november God spoke to me to go to One thing. This is Hosted by Ihop(International House of Prayer) and well one month is not enough to save for a hotel and travel expenses. So i told God if you want me to go then you will have to provide. The bible says God will give seed to the sower. So i was at work one day and this women came through gave me one hundred dollars towards going i sowed most of it. Then lol within that week i had a place to stay. But it was not until the last day that i had a ride and my ride there and back was free meals where free. I had another person who did not know me give me one hundred dollars towards going, But i had already found away so i had finances when i got there. I recieved words i gave words and just an amazing time. God is truly a provider. But it all leads back to if i was to put God in a Box and not take Him out He would not have been able to move.
When we desire and step out into the Impossible God's Supernatural(Above Natural) Means step in. Meaning He makes the impossible Possible!
At the end of november God spoke to me to go to One thing. This is Hosted by Ihop(International House of Prayer) and well one month is not enough to save for a hotel and travel expenses. So i told God if you want me to go then you will have to provide. The bible says God will give seed to the sower. So i was at work one day and this women came through gave me one hundred dollars towards going i sowed most of it. Then lol within that week i had a place to stay. But it was not until the last day that i had a ride and my ride there and back was free meals where free. I had another person who did not know me give me one hundred dollars towards going, But i had already found away so i had finances when i got there. I recieved words i gave words and just an amazing time. God is truly a provider. But it all leads back to if i was to put God in a Box and not take Him out He would not have been able to move.
When we desire and step out into the Impossible God's Supernatural(Above Natural) Means step in. Meaning He makes the impossible Possible!
I, DiscipleDave, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed ... as long as it is not contrary to my personal religious beliefs or contrary to the teachings of that belief.
you can swear an oath to obey your husband as well, but if you tells you to kill someone, you don't have to do it, because, even though you gave an oath to honor and obey him, does not mean you have to obey him if he asks you to do something that is contrary to your own religious beliefs.
Me personally i am all for supporting and defending America, as long as that support and defending is not to kill. We are commanded by Jesus Christ to LOVE our enemies, NOT kill them. We are commanded to help our enemies, and be kind to them, NOT put a bullet in their face. WWJD. Do you think Jesus would hold a rifle aim it at another person and pull the trigger to kill that person? No He would NEVER do such a thing, are we Christians suppose to be like Jesus? Is He not our example how we should live? The Battle is not on a battle field killing our enemies. The Battle is within our own selves against the powers of satan and temptations. You want to kill something, kill sin in your own bodies, mortify the deeds of your flesh is you desire to kill something. The Battle is not from without, but from within. It's easy to point a rifle at our enemies and kill them, then justify it by saying my government instructed me to do so, and i signed an oath. Than it is to get rid of the sin that so easily besets you, not that is a MAJOR battle.
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you can swear an oath to obey your husband as well, but if you tells you to kill someone, you don't have to do it, because, even though you gave an oath to honor and obey him, does not mean you have to obey him if he asks you to do something that is contrary to your own religious beliefs.
Me personally i am all for supporting and defending America, as long as that support and defending is not to kill. We are commanded by Jesus Christ to LOVE our enemies, NOT kill them. We are commanded to help our enemies, and be kind to them, NOT put a bullet in their face. WWJD. Do you think Jesus would hold a rifle aim it at another person and pull the trigger to kill that person? No He would NEVER do such a thing, are we Christians suppose to be like Jesus? Is He not our example how we should live? The Battle is not on a battle field killing our enemies. The Battle is within our own selves against the powers of satan and temptations. You want to kill something, kill sin in your own bodies, mortify the deeds of your flesh is you desire to kill something. The Battle is not from without, but from within. It's easy to point a rifle at our enemies and kill them, then justify it by saying my government instructed me to do so, and i signed an oath. Than it is to get rid of the sin that so easily besets you, not that is a MAJOR battle.
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An example is marriage. A woman swears under oath to honor and obey her husband. The woman chooses to be under this oath, chooses to do so before she does it or agrees to it. This does not change the fact that if that husband is asking her to do something that she feels is sinful, she is not obligated to fulfill that oath. She signed an oath to honor and obey her husband, but if her husband is asking her to break an oath with her God, God takes precedence. When a person accepts Jesus Christ as their Savior and Lord, they are basically agreeing to Believe and obey Jesus Christ, this Oath then trumps any oath made by humans. That Oath is with God. So then a wife is to obey her husband, but if that husband asks her to do something which she feels is sinful or thinks is sinful, she does not have to obey her husband, The Oath with God is Greater than the oath with her husband or an oath with the government.
If a Christian signs an oath of any kind, they are to keep it, UNLESS they are being asked to do something that is contrary to their religion.
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If a Christian signs an oath of any kind, they are to keep it, UNLESS they are being asked to do something that is contrary to their religion.
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No, I think the difference is you probably see something as a prophecy AND a word of knowledge, etc. I'd be more inclined just to put it in the 'prophecy' category. I suppose prophets can get both. But a prophet could prophecy something about someone else without knowing it like a word of knowledge. What I mean is sometimes when people prophesy, it sort of flows out of them. They know what they are saying at the time, but it's not like they knew beforehand.
I got a word of knowledge for this brother we know from church that he was evangelist. Then, before I could share it with him, my wife prophesied this long prophecy over him. Part of it was that he was an evangelist. I hadn't shared this with my wife either. We hadn't had a chance to talk. It happened within a matter of minutes.
I call what I got a 'word of knowledge.' I call what she got a 'prophecy' since it was a message spoken out. I suppose you could say she got a word of knowledge and a prophecy at the same time. Is that how you understand it?
I got a word of knowledge for this brother we know from church that he was evangelist. Then, before I could share it with him, my wife prophesied this long prophecy over him. Part of it was that he was an evangelist. I hadn't shared this with my wife either. We hadn't had a chance to talk. It happened within a matter of minutes.
I call what I got a 'word of knowledge.' I call what she got a 'prophecy' since it was a message spoken out. I suppose you could say she got a word of knowledge and a prophecy at the same time. Is that how you understand it?
The woman who swears under oath to obey her husband and does not is guilty of breaking her oath. It was foolish for her to make such an oath. Or maybe it was foolish of her church or society to require one.
Our 'wedding vows' in Protestant services I've seen aren't true sworn oaths. They are just the couple agreeing to do something, not saying they swear by the Lord or Mt. Zion or the gold in the temple. If a woman were to swear by Yahweh to do everything that her husband commands and he says to go jump off a bridge and kill herself, then she is guilty.
That is why James said not to swear, 'let ye fall into condemnation.' The condemnation comes in not keeping the oath. The person shouldn't have sworn to begin with.
The Bible does not teach that marriage is based on an oath or vows. That's a custom that apparently evolved out of modifications of the pre-Christian Roman wedding ceremony.
I think Roman Catholics may actually say they swear their oaths. I haven't heard this in Protestant ceremonies, though there may be some that do this that I am not aware of.
She signed an oath to honor and obey her husband, but if her husband is asking her to break an oath with her God, God takes precedence. When a person accepts Jesus Christ as their Savior and Lord, they are basically agreeing to Believe and obey Jesus Christ, this Oath then trumps any oath made by humans. That Oath is with God. So then a wife is to obey her husband, but if that husband asks her to do something which she feels is sinful or thinks is sinful, she does not have to obey her husband, The Oath with God is Greater than the oath with her husband or an oath with the government.
If a Christian signs an oath of any kind, they are to keep it, UNLESS they are being asked to do something that is contrary to their religion.
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Our 'wedding vows' in Protestant services I've seen aren't true sworn oaths. They are just the couple agreeing to do something, not saying they swear by the Lord or Mt. Zion or the gold in the temple. If a woman were to swear by Yahweh to do everything that her husband commands and he says to go jump off a bridge and kill herself, then she is guilty.
That is why James said not to swear, 'let ye fall into condemnation.' The condemnation comes in not keeping the oath. The person shouldn't have sworn to begin with.
The Bible does not teach that marriage is based on an oath or vows. That's a custom that apparently evolved out of modifications of the pre-Christian Roman wedding ceremony.
I think Roman Catholics may actually say they swear their oaths. I haven't heard this in Protestant ceremonies, though there may be some that do this that I am not aware of.
She signed an oath to honor and obey her husband, but if her husband is asking her to break an oath with her God, God takes precedence. When a person accepts Jesus Christ as their Savior and Lord, they are basically agreeing to Believe and obey Jesus Christ, this Oath then trumps any oath made by humans. That Oath is with God. So then a wife is to obey her husband, but if that husband asks her to do something which she feels is sinful or thinks is sinful, she does not have to obey her husband, The Oath with God is Greater than the oath with her husband or an oath with the government.
If a Christian signs an oath of any kind, they are to keep it, UNLESS they are being asked to do something that is contrary to their religion.
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You accuse me of this, yet give no evidence to support your accusation. Brother if my proposition shows signs of insanity, then please reveal what i have said or which post, that you think is a sign of insanity. Or are you one of those who merely likes to call name, point fingers, accuse without evidence? Surely not, so then, brother please show me what i have said that you THINK are signs of insanity. Thanks.
There is only ONE Truth, and that Truth comes from God and not from men, nor from the minds of men, but that ONE Truth comes from the Spirit of Truth, NOT from my own thinking or from my own understanding. Everyone should want Truth wrapped in a box and clearly marked, and it is God who chooses to give the clearly marked box to whom God decides to give it to.
Wow, that is exactly what i also said, That is True, have i claimed that the Truth i teach comes from me? i have not taught this, nor do i believe that. The Truth i teach comes from God, not from my own studies, nor from my own understanding, nor from men, but from God. i have never said otherwise.
As you said above, there is only ONE Truth, That Truth is what God told me, If you want to know the Truth concerning the Angel Lucifer being cast out of Heaven and why he was cast out and not immediately destroyed then click this article
The Meaning of Life
True we are to LOVE, to Bless, to be Generous to others, and a Blessing to others. But God reveals His Truth to whom God will reveal them. Those who believe God will NOT reveal Truth until the judgment, tie His hands up in giving that person the Truth, You must first believe He will give them, before He will give them. God reveals to whom God reveals.
The Word of God was designed by God, God had men write those things that He knew would apply UNTIL His Son came back to the Earth. God knew, when He created the Bible, that people in the last days would call it the Word of God, and wrote it in such a way that would apply even to those in the last days. It applies today as well as it did then. He is God.
It is apparent you have not read all the posts, which i am not saying is bad, there are way to many for someone just coming in to read them all. However all the stuff on carnal and things, is in reply to a member who teaches you should go to the Hebrew and Greek to learn Truth, this is not so, nor is it the Truth, The explanations are specifically to individual people that i am responding to. i would rather give a long explanation then a short one that causes even more confusion. However i do not want too long, then people just won't read it.
You say That is what i have been saying in many previous posts. If a person seeks the Truth via the mind only, that is carnal, even if they seek the Truth via the Hebrew and Greek, it is carnal. Spirituality is a heart thing, a spirit thing, not a mind thing.
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There is only ONE Truth, and that Truth comes from God and not from men, nor from the minds of men, but that ONE Truth comes from the Spirit of Truth, NOT from my own thinking or from my own understanding. Everyone should want Truth wrapped in a box and clearly marked, and it is God who chooses to give the clearly marked box to whom God decides to give it to.
Wow, that is exactly what i also said, That is True, have i claimed that the Truth i teach comes from me? i have not taught this, nor do i believe that. The Truth i teach comes from God, not from my own studies, nor from my own understanding, nor from men, but from God. i have never said otherwise.
As you said above, there is only ONE Truth, That Truth is what God told me, If you want to know the Truth concerning the Angel Lucifer being cast out of Heaven and why he was cast out and not immediately destroyed then click this article
The Meaning of Life
True we are to LOVE, to Bless, to be Generous to others, and a Blessing to others. But God reveals His Truth to whom God will reveal them. Those who believe God will NOT reveal Truth until the judgment, tie His hands up in giving that person the Truth, You must first believe He will give them, before He will give them. God reveals to whom God reveals.
The Word of God was designed by God, God had men write those things that He knew would apply UNTIL His Son came back to the Earth. God knew, when He created the Bible, that people in the last days would call it the Word of God, and wrote it in such a way that would apply even to those in the last days. It applies today as well as it did then. He is God.
It is apparent you have not read all the posts, which i am not saying is bad, there are way to many for someone just coming in to read them all. However all the stuff on carnal and things, is in reply to a member who teaches you should go to the Hebrew and Greek to learn Truth, this is not so, nor is it the Truth, The explanations are specifically to individual people that i am responding to. i would rather give a long explanation then a short one that causes even more confusion. However i do not want too long, then people just won't read it.
You say That is what i have been saying in many previous posts. If a person seeks the Truth via the mind only, that is carnal, even if they seek the Truth via the Hebrew and Greek, it is carnal. Spirituality is a heart thing, a spirit thing, not a mind thing.
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DiscipleDave said
Where are the requirements to be an apostle written in Scriptures? You say "just one of the twelve. Paul was Never one of the Twelve, yet he was an Apostle, because he saw Jesus Christ and spoke with Him, Paul must not have ever heard or seen Him speak in while He was walking the Earth, either, because Paul did not even recognize Him, when he saw Him, True He could have looked differently. But you say there is a list of requirements to be an Apostle, where? Because as far as i know, all those who were called Apostles seen Jesus Christ.
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