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A Christian cannot fail to take note of the law God desires them to keep for that law is written on their mind and placed on their heart

The law comes in two parts. The law itself and the penalty for disobedience(sin). The latter is removed for the born again Christian, the former has been transferred from tablets of stone to tablets of human hearts. The two are inextricably linked
Do you believe the law was only given to Israel or was it for everybody?
 
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again you contradict yourself.

as it is written, if someone receives grace to be yahweh's son, they will obey the law.

if sin is their master, they always disobey.

If you know the truth, please tell me why sin shall not be a persons master for they are not under law but under grace
 
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again you contradict yourself.

as it is written, if someone receives grace to be yahweh's son, they will obey the law.

if sin is their master, they always disobey.
I hoped you would answer the question as you know truth and I don't
 
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We often do but I am afraid it is over your head.
that's an understatement. even his reply to you proved that...... for the passing reader, please realize that in the assembly of ekklesia abiding in yahshua no one could teach disobedient grace.... they would be silenced at once.
 
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He came from ur of the chaldes

Now please answer a question of mine.

Do you agree, the law has been transferred from tablets of stone to tablets of human hearts, and for those with the law on their hearts the penalty of sin has been removed. You don't mind answering a question do you?
 
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that's an understatement. even his reply to you proved that...... for the passing reader, please realize that in the assembly of ekklesia abiding in yahshua no one could teach disobedient grace.... they would be silenced at once.
It might be better for you to come to an understanding of Paul's core message of grace, before you dwell on other things so intently
 
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is it possible for you to know either way ?

here's a very simple test to see>> where in the BIBLE is the word "HOLY" not an adjective in the original languages? (p.s. even kindergarten Hebrew students in Israel know this one - they've always known.... (if their parents were honoring torah)


Only the Holy Spirit can enlighten anyone, it has nothing to do with man's intelligence, does it?
 
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is it possible for you to know either way ?

here's a very simple test to see>> where in the BIBLE is the word "HOLY" not an adjective in the original languages? (p.s. even kindergarten Hebrew students in Israel know this one - they've always known.... (if their parents were honoring torah)
Are you saying the Holy Spirit is not able to guide a person into truth unless they read the bible in the original languages?

Wouldn't that limit the ability of the Holy Spirit to guide into truth and place the emphasis on man? And is their not a danger, if that was the case man could become proud of his own abilities, rather than God's ability to teach him?
 
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without grace, no one has a chance.
thanks to grace, unmerited favor from yahweh, you still have a chance to have authentic faith in yahshua as yahweh's word says.....

It might be better for you to come to an understanding of Paul's core message of grace, before you dwell on other things so intently
 
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without grace, no one has a chance.
thanks to grace, unmerited favor from yahweh, you still have a chance to have authentic faith in yahshua as yahweh's word says.....
That does not answer the question, so far you have not addressed it
 
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so, if you can't even pass the simplest of tests, ....
one of the first things yahweh teaches his children ....
why do you even think you understand anything at all ???? now that is a real mystery....

if you don't learn the basics from yahweh, you won't learn what comes after the basics.



is it possible for you to know either way ?

here's a very simple test to see>> where in the BIBLE is the word "HOLY" not an adjective in the original languages? (p.s. even kindergarten Hebrew students in Israel know this one - they've always known.... (if their parents were honoring torah)
Are you saying the Holy Spirit is not able to guide a person into truth unless they read the bible in the original languages?

Wouldn't that limit the ability of the Holy Spirit to guide into truth and place the emphasis on man? And is their not a danger, if that was the case man could become proud of his own abilities, rather than God's ability to teach him?
 
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so, if you can't even pass the simplest of tests, ....
one of the first things yahweh teaches his children ....
why do you even think you understand anything at all ???? now that is a real mystery....

if you don't learn the basics from yahweh, you won't learn what comes after the basics.
So please tell me the basics of grace

Why are sinful passions aroused in people by the law if they live under it Rom 7:5

I assume your reading of the original translations of the bible has given you the answer
 

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so you agree the righteous son of the father obeys the father ? or not? your post appears non sequitor ..

MY POINT has been all along, a Genuine born again Christian will ALWAYS strive to OBEY. Like Dr. John MacArthur put is: A genuine Christian is not sinless, but he or she will sin less, and less, and less, as they mature spiritually.

As for the part of the TRIUNE DEITY that has the TITLE: "SON of GOD", His major function has ALWAYS been to do the Will of the Father. AND THAT TITLE does not designate that HE is the offspring of GOD, but rather that HE is the only one the Father has given the right to inherit all that HE has, including HIS DEITY. That is an ongoing custom in ISRAEL even today, the father can give the inheritance birthright TITLE to anyone he so chooses to give the birthright "SON of" TITLE to.

Philippians 2:6-10 (KJV)
[SUP]6 [/SUP] Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
[SUP]7 [/SUP] But made Himself of no reputation, and took upon Him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
[SUP]8 [/SUP] And being found in fashion as a man, He humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
[SUP]9 [/SUP] Wherefore God also hath highly exalted Him, and given Him a name which is above every name:
[SUP]10 [/SUP] That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;


John 17:5 (HCSB)
[SUP]5 [/SUP] Now, Father, glorify Me in Your presence with that glory I had with You before the world existed.
 
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He came from ur of the chaldes

Now please answer a question of mine. ?
Now why did Abraham keep the law? Maybe the law was already written in his hart by ABBA Father but Israel was so corrupted by Egypt that God had to give it to Moses in writing for them to acknowledge it. Israel believed when they saw something, and it took them 40 years to break the bondage of sin and religion they were part of in Egypt.

Do you agree, the law has been transferred from tablets of stone to tablets of human hearts, and for those with the law on their hearts the penalty of sin has been removed. You don't mind answering a question do you?
The law was written in man's hart before ABBA Father gave it to Moses. The 10 commandments God gave Moses was a confirmation of what Israel already knew. They were so corrupted by Egypt that they believed a golden calf could represent God and that they will be able to satisfy God with this moulded image. Imagine the corruption of God's word if He never gave Israel the ten commandments... They were being corrupted by Egypt just like we are corrupted by Egypt (our sinful life) until we turn to God, and yes then His commandments are written in our harts.

The commandments are the character of God and He teaches us how to build our relationship with Him.
 
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if you check, (as if you could see) , it is written that the blind cannot see.

i never said the blind can see. i rather agree with all that YAHWEH says, than try to say that you can see.....


That does not answer the question, so far you have not addressed it