Iran the new Persia, Rise of the Empire

[David_1]

Nonsense.

The idea that a backwards little country like Iran is any match for the might of the US Empire with over 130 military bases on foreign soils across the globe?

I'd say that's almost treasonous to be afraid.

What little faith you have in the largest socialist economy in the world - The US military.

Oh Noes... the Iranians are coming! Wooooooooo!!! scary!!! NOT!

 

[GandalfTheWhite]

A lot of Catholics don't consider everything the pope says to be gospel

I didn't know that...

 

[GandalfTheWhite]

Nonsense.

The idea that a backwards little country like Iran is any match for the might of the US Empire with over 130 military bases on foreign soils across the globe?

I'd say that's almost treasonous to be afraid.

What little faith you have in the largest socialist economy in the world - The US military.

Oh Noes... the Iranians are coming! Wooooooooo!!! scary!!! NOT!

The problem is that they infiltrate your country and poison it from the inside. They will never fight the war from Iran but drop an atom bomb in the USA and that army is useless...

 

[didymos]

The problem is that they infiltrate your country and poison it from the inside. They will never fight the war from Iran but drop an atom bomb in the USA and that army is useless...

drop what how?

 

[Viligant_Warrior]

All we have to do is go back and look at Daniel to chapter 2;

I defy you to find the words "European Union" in the Bible.

And what do you think ISIS is attempting to create in the Mideast right now? Nothing less than the "Last Caliphate" -- do some study on past caliphates. They nearly swallowed up Western culture and religion.

 

[prove-all]

Revelation 9:14
Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates.

the word bound is used, does not say bound (in chains) like sinning angeles are that were bad,

it could just mean bound for a certain time and place.

something we will have to agree to disagree i guess, because thats all the verse says to go by.


like i could say i am bound to go outside today, does not meen i am chained up

 

[kennethcadwell]

I defy you to find the words "European Union" in the Bible.

And what do you think ISIS is attempting to create in the Mideast right now? Nothing less than the "Last Caliphate" -- do some study on past caliphates. They nearly swallowed up Western culture and religion.

The problem with going by prophecy you will not find the actual words you are seeking for, and even in some other writings because they were done back then and by who they were written will not have the same wordage that we are use to using today. So that is a mute point to use that debate to find those exact words.

The statue in Daniel 2 shows that the iron which is the Roman empire exist within the man of sin beast system in the Great Tribulation period. The iron is mixed with clay, meaning a strong regime mixed together with a weaker regime. Hince the European union that has a strong military force mixed with the Muslim regime that has millions of members but not strong in weapons. The bible shows clearly the Roman empire will be revised within the beast system representative of the ten nations/kingdoms/kings. A lot of Roman empire nations have huge Muslim populations in them, and Turkey which is one of them is majority Muslim.

 

[kennethcadwell]

the word bound is used, does not say bound (in chains) like sinning angeles are that were bad,

it could just mean bound for a certain time and place.

something we will have to agree to disagree i guess, because thats all the verse says to go by.


like i could say i am bound to go outside today, does not meen i am chained up

The thing is I guess we will have to agree to disagree because I have shown the definition of the Greek word deo twice now that is used in this scripture for bound, which means bound in chains.

 

[kennethcadwell]

Nonsense.

The idea that a backwards little country like Iran is any match for the might of the US Empire with over 130 military bases on foreign soils across the globe?

I'd say that's almost treasonous to be afraid.

What little faith you have in the largest socialist economy in the world - The US military.

Oh Noes... the Iranians are coming! Wooooooooo!!! scary!!! NOT!

The problem with this thinking is that Iran has already stated that they have sleeper cells within the U.S. ready to set off bombs if the U.S. or Israel attack them.

Iran Has Sleeper Cells in U.S. Ready to Attack

Second we have already been told that if we or Israel attack Iran, it will not be only Iran we will be dealing with as Russia has already warned both us and Israel on this. And then China also has stated a warning of not going into a war with Iran also, so it will not be just Iran we will have to worry about.

 

[prove-all]

Revelation 9:14
Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates.

The word bound here like I previously showed is the Greek word deo, which means to be bound in chains.
Also notice that the order was given to the sixth angel with the trumpet to go and release them, so we can see that they were kept from carrying out this killing until God told one of His angels to release them from their binding.

bind (7), binding (1), binds (2), bound (23), imprisoned (4), prisoners (1), put...in chains (1), tied

how do we know what defination of bound they used

 

[prove-all]

I defy you to find the words "European Union" in the Bible.

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the word trinity is not in the bible, but the whole world follows romans doctrine.

with the treaty of rome, europe became rome again, that is in the bible with the cathloc church.

yes there is hidden idenitys of nations now from long ago, learn who they are and pieces fall into place

 

[Viligant_Warrior]

the word trinity is not in the bible, but the whole world follows romans doctrine.

Engage in hyperbole much? Tell me how ISIS, most of Islam for that matter, China, the southeast Asian countries, etc. "follow Roman doctrine"? Your views are too westernized to see the reality of what the Revelation to John actually teaches. To understand what he wrote, you have to drop the concept of westernized culture having any role whatsoever in those final days. Westernized culture is completely missing from the biblical accounts.

 

[prove-all]

Nonsense.

The idea that a backwards little country like Iran is any match for the might of the US Empire with over 130 military bases on foreign soils across the globe?

I'd say that's almost treasonous to be afraid.

What little faith you have in the largest socialist economy in the world - The US military.

Oh Noes... the Iranians are coming! Wooooooooo!!! scary!!! NOT!

sorry to say but america is no longer as strong as we think.

britian and the u.s. owned every sea gate in the world, saved the world from 2 world wars,


now we do not even own the panama canal, russia again can put nukes in cuba.


they could blow up new york in a minute before anti missles could even counter.



no america has had its day, God is taking its blessings back.

 

[didymos]

...
britian and the u.s. owned every sea gate in the world, saved the world from 2 world wars,
....

Lol. The armsrace most european powers were involved in (including Britain) CAUSED WWI, and the US played no major role in that war. Britain's pacifism and the American isolationism, their unwillingness to act against Germany and Japan, was one of the CAUSES of WWII.

 

[prove-all]

. Westernized culture is completely missing from the biblical accounts.

most of the world churches follow the roman church, who defined what false religion they should follow.


mabe america, they are missing because they are wiped out before the end time,

or mabe God has not given you this knowledge yet about there idenity.

 

[Viligant_Warrior]

... mabe God has not given you this knowledge yet about there idenity.

As I said earlier, the Bible reveals the identify to these nations. God has always used the same peoples to bring Israel to repentance. You think He will do something differently now? Why?

 

[prove-all]

when Germany started World Wars i and ii.

Winston Churchill - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Churchill was a watchman for the people, and warned them.


america was bombed into the last war.

we where lucky that time, who is warning us now.

When Benito Mussolini became the Italian leader before
World War ii, he called his regime the Holy Roman Empire.

The empire on which the sun never sets - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Hitler led the Holy Roman Empire, even though he didn’t openly call his
regime by that name. However, the Third Reich has a very similar meaning.

Hitler declared Britain the main enemy to be defeated and that Poland's
obliteration was a necessary prelude for that goal

the Nazi war machine set out to rule the world and destroy
anything that happened to be in its path.


now the U.K. just cut there ready force to like 5000 men to help U.S. in defence.

again between u.s. and the uk, they owned every sea lane , or gate in the world,

give me one name of one that still might be worth anything.

 

[didymos]

when Germany started World Wars i and ii.

....

False. Austria started WWI when they declared war on Serbia.

 

[Viligant_Warrior]

when Germany started World Wars i and ii.

You don't know who started World War I, and we're supposed to believe you "know" anything about the final war?

In reality, the first shot fired in WWI was taken by Private Edward Thomas, a drummer of the 4th Dragoon Guards, who at 0700 on 22 August, 1914, spotted an enemy cavalryman ahead and opened fire on him.

Germany did fire the first shot of WWII, from the warship Schleswig Holstein, on an official visit to Poland to honor German sailors killed in the sinking of the Magdeburg in Danzig (now Gdansk) Harbor. But you're bound to get that one right as Germany starting WWII is pretty much common knowledge.

 

[prove-all]

yes i will have to go learn more about ww1 , not good in that subject in school,
but what i read in school is not what is taught elsewhere, but i do know

unholy roman empire unions

1st resurrection - Justinian in 554AD. He recognized the pope as the supreme religious leader and empowered him.
2nd resurrection - Charlemagne crowned by the pope in 800AD.
3rd resurrection - Otto the Great crowned by the pope in 962AD.
4th resurrection - Charles V crowned by the pope in 1520AD.
5th resurrection - Napoleon crowned by the pope in 1805
6th resurrection - Hitler/Mussolini empowered by Pope Pius XII.

one was,one is, and one to come, why does it say that,
daniels seals are opened to understand now.

7th resurrection - forming in Europe now.



sorry about my bad english, also have

to run to e.r., wife havin heart problems, later