The number of the Beast in our time

[MikkoAinasoja]

the Revelation which our dear brother John had, tell's us that there will be time, when some force's make influence of that, that everyone must take the mark of the Beast to him, if the one want to buy or sell.

16. And he causeth all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free and the bond, that there be given them a mark on their right hand, or upon their forehead; 17. and that no man should be able to buy or to sell, save he that hath the mark, even the name of the beast or the number of his name (Revelation 13:16-17)

And today we can see that this all happening in front of our eye's by the influence of the school system, which everyone is tried to lead, to learn to the values of the world, or the values o the Beast, we can say.

And as we know that it may be difficult to try to sell or bay, as a merchant, if you do not go trough that school system, which more likely may modify the man, and the values of him to the man of this world.

So do not wait anymore the marking of the Beast to show up, in the world.

 

[pem]

the Revelation which our dear brother John had, tell's us that there will be time, when some force's make influence of that, that everyone must take the mark of the Beast to him, if the one want to buy or sell.

16. And he causeth all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free and the bond, that there be given them a mark on their right hand, or upon their forehead; 17. and that no man should be able to buy or to sell, save he that hath the mark, even the name of the beast or the number of his name (Revelation 13:16-17)

And today we can see that this all happening in front of our eye's by the influence of the school system, which everyone is tried to lead, to learn to the values of the world, or the values o the Beast, we can say.

And as we know that it may be difficult to try to sell or bay, as a merchant, if you do not go trough that school system, which more likely may modify the man, and the values of him to the man of this world.

So do not wait anymore the marking of the Beast to show up, in the world.

Good post, the mark of the beast is the opposite to the mark of a Christian .

Its all down to thoughts (head) and actions (hand ) as to whether we are Christs' or Satans.

 

[the_last_gunslinger]

In what ways is the school determining who can sell or buy?

 

[Jeff_56]

many many ways. if you don't get that piece of paper, you can't do that job. so many ungodly unions and rules and institutions all set up as if to 'protect' , all devilishly greedy and oppressive.

"All of this simply points out that we are one step closer to the fulfillment of Revelation 13:16-17 concerning the Mark of the Beast. But fear not dear Christian—for it also means we are one step closer to the Return of Jesus Christ!"



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[BradC]

the Revelation which our dear brother John had, tell's us that there will be time, when some force's make influence of that, that everyone must take the mark of the Beast to him, if the one want to buy or sell.

16. And he causeth all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free and the bond, that there be given them a mark on their right hand, or upon their forehead; 17. and that no man should be able to buy or to sell, save he that hath the mark, even the name of the beast or the number of his name (Revelation 13:16-17)

And today we can see that this all happening in front of our eye's by the influence of the school system, which everyone is tried to lead, to learn to the values of the world, or the values o the Beast, we can say.

And as we know that it may be difficult to try to sell or bay, as a merchant, if you do not go trough that school system, which more likely may modify the man, and the values of him to the man of this world.

So do not wait anymore the marking of the Beast to show up, in the world.

The mark of the beast (the beast that came up out of the sea - Rev 13:1) is directly related to the image of the beast. The second beast (that came up out of the earth - Rev 13:11) deceived those who dwelt on the earth with miracles in the presence of the first beast and instructed them to make an image of the beast that had been wounded by the sword yet lived. The second beast gave the image life and the power to speak and caused all to receive a mark and it was fashioned in their right hand or in their foreheads. The mark came after the image of the beast was made and given power and after those who refused to worship the image should be killed. No one was able to buy or sell without the mark or the name of the beast or the number of his name.

The image of the beast has to be crafted and those who dwell on the earth have to be the ones who fashion that image and worship it before the second beast can cause anyone to receive the mark. This mark, in my 'limited' opinion, is probably a permanent 'coded branding tattoo' that can be routinely scanned to buy or sell goods and services, domestically, nationally and internationally with any form of currency or backed collateral for bartering.

Here is a description of the image of the first beast that came up out of the sea in (Rev 13:1,2)...

1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

 

[MikkoAinasoja]

many many ways. if you don't get that piece of paper, you can't do that job. so many ungodly unions and rules and institutions all set up as if to 'protect' , all devilishly greedy and oppressive.

"All of this simply points out that we are one step closer to the fulfillment of Revelation 13:16-17 concerning the Mark of the Beast. But fear not dear Christian—for it also means we are one step closer to the Return of Jesus Christ!"

Yes jeff in many ways.

It is hard to do almost anything in this day's if you do no, like give your self to this world, and become like this world.

It is wise to step back from this all, and not to reach high places of the world, but make do with little, so the influence of this world may also stay small.

 

[kennethcadwell]

The school system is not the mark of the beast, and the issues that always arises from trying to make things fit in prophetic writings is trying to make things fit before other prophecies are fulfilled that come first. The second is that just because the scripture says "all" does not mean world wide.

Notice how in Revelation that the antichrist/man of sin still has opposition in world, so not everybody all over the world take this mark. Watch this video and listen to some sermons from Walid Shoebat it gives some good insights;

[video=youtube;v234KeYS-pk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v234KeYS-pk[/video]

 

[pem]

The school system is not the mark of the beast, and the issues that always arises from trying to make things fit in prophetic writings is trying to make things fit before other prophecies are fulfilled that come first. The second is that just because the scripture says "all" does not mean world wide.

Notice how in Revelation that the antichrist/man of sin still has opposition in world, so not everybody all over the world take this mark. Watch this video and listen to some sermons from Walid Shoebat it gives some good insights;

[video=youtube;v234KeYS-pk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v234KeYS-pk[/video]

Walid Shoebat Is A Fraud, A Wolf Who Promotes Hate Of Muslims

 

[MikkoAinasoja]

The mark of the beast (the beast that came up out of the sea - Rev 13:1) is directly related to the image of the beast. The second beast (that came up out of the earth - Rev 13:11) deceived those who dwelt on the earth with miracles in the presence of the first beast and instructed them to make an image of the beast that had been wounded by the sword yet lived. The second beast gave the image life and the power to speak and caused all to receive a mark and it was fashioned in their right hand or in their foreheads. The mark came after the image of the beast was made and given power and after those who refused to worship the image should be killed. No one was able to buy or sell without the mark or the name of the beast or the number of his name.

The image of the beast has to be crafted and those who dwell on the earth have to be the ones who fashion that image and worship it before the second beast can cause anyone to receive the mark. This mark, in my 'limited' opinion, is probably a permanent 'coded branding tattoo' that can be routinely scanned to buy or sell goods and services, domestically, nationally and internationally with any form of currency or backed collateral for bartering.

Here is a description of the image of the first beast that came up out of the sea in (Rev 13:1,2)...

1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

That is the general misunderstood, that we have to wait still the marking of the Beast, and it would be like tattoo, or chip, because it is the values of the Beast which will contaminate the man.

If we study the writings about the situation when the second Beast make everyone to worship the image of the Beast, we can learn by using the Greek so called original writings to see, that the part where the the Scriptures says that the second Beast makes that everyone will kill if they do not worship the image, and that word kill if we study more about that we can learn this word may also represent word like put to death, or figurative abolish.

So now we can understand that also this all is more likely happening in our time, when we see that some countries, and forms of government's are like in state of abolish, in today's world.

Here is the link below where you can go and study more, this so called original Greek writings. And when you go in this site there is a series of number's in top of the word's and if you click that number series it leads you to the site which tells more about that word, below the number series.

Revelation 13:15 Interlinear: and there was given to it to give a spirit to the image of the beast, that also the image of the beast may speak, and that it may cause as many as shall not bow before the image of the beast, that they may be killed.

 

[kennethcadwell]

Walid Shoebat Is A Fraud, A Wolf Who Promotes Hate Of Muslims

Do a little more research because I have watched a number of his teachings, and he does not promote hate of Muslims as your article states.
He shows how from his middle eastern back ground and once being a terrorist, but now converted to Christianity has more insight then most of us from the west. Muslim is by no means innocent by the bible standards and is a false religion, but Shoebat does not teach hatred of Muslims. He just shows how they fit biblical prophecy a lot better then the Catholic church. I do agree that the Catholic church does play a part in the end times system as well, but Muslim is a major player as well.


Remember the final beast lead by the antichrist/man of sin has 10 nations/kingdoms/kings that follow him. And in Daniel 2 it shows the symbolism of iron mixed with clay. The iron has been well thought of to be the Roman empire, and when it is revised we will see it mixed with another group.
Look at the European union nations that were once part of the original Roman empire. Countries such as Turkey for one that was part of the Roman empire has a majority Muslim population. Many prophetic scriptures in the bible point to Turkey, and Shoebat points that out.

The other thing is the bible gives another title to the man of sin as the king of the north.
What country is exactly north of Israel ? It is not Russia as some have stated, if you look at a map Turkey is directly north of Israel.


Second and finally the other parts of the beast system that the bible shows are all Muslim or have big population of Muslims in their countries; Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Syria, Egypt, etc.

 

[pem]

Do a little more research because I have watched a number of his teachings, and he does not promote hate of Muslims as your article states.
He shows how from his middle eastern back ground and once being a terrorist, but now converted to Christianity has more insight then most of us from the west. Muslim is by no means innocent by the bible standards and is a false religion, but Shoebat does not teach hatred of Muslims. He just shows how they fit biblical prophecy a lot better then the Catholic church. I do agree that the Catholic church does play a part in the end times system as well, but Muslim is a major player as well.


Remember the final beast lead by the antichrist/man of sin has 10 nations/kingdoms/kings that follow him. And in Daniel 2 it shows the symbolism of iron mixed with clay. The iron has been well thought of to be the Roman empire, and when it is revised we will see it mixed with another group.
Look at the European union nations that were once part of the original Roman empire. Countries such as Turkey for one that was part of the Roman empire has a majority Muslim population. Many prophetic scriptures in the bible point to Turkey, and Shoebat points that out.

The other thing is the bible gives another title to the man of sin as the king of the north.
What country is exactly north of Israel ? It is not Russia as some have stated, if you look at a map Turkey is directly north of Israel.


Second and finally the other parts of the beast system that the bible shows are all Muslim or have big population of Muslims in their countries; Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Syria, Egypt, etc.

Call it what you will but its just more zionist rubbish which comes from reading to much Hal lindsey and "end times"fiction . Dispensational premill zionism (rapture cult) is the doctrine of demons . All this garbage is taught by the wolves at Dallas Theological (philosophical) Seminary where they all bought the lie of Scofieldism . Christian zionism is Antichristian garbage and racist to boot .

 

[posthuman]

i like it when we focus on Christ at least as much as we focus on antichrist

 

[MikkoAinasoja]

The school system is not the mark of the beast, and the issues that always arises from trying to make things fit in prophetic writings is trying to make things fit before other prophecies are fulfilled that come first. The second is that just because the scripture says "all" does not mean world wide.

Notice how in Revelation that the antichrist/man of sin still has opposition in world, so not everybody all over the world take this mark. Watch this video and listen to some sermons from Walid Shoebat it gives some good insights;

Everything has happened all ready, but many people's will not understand this, because the predicted man of last time's, who do not anymore take the sound doctrine.

Do not be like the predicted man of the last time's, who loves the world, and can not see the truth.

 

[Jeff_56]

the schools are teaching lies, and calling truth a lie. the governments promote lies against the Creator and His people, and publish lies calling it the truth; and call the truth a lie. nation after nation is fallen or falling into agreement against the Creator and His people,
and men are being taught willingly ready to kill other human beings or even sacrifice themselves to idols for a loaf of bread or approval of man or nothingness.

all the population is and has been 'prepared' to accept help for food and sustenance and housing and medical care from the beast system. the new id system is in place and soon will be law. even the pastors (a lot , not all) are telling people to go ahead and receive willingly the mark..... destroying their souls before they even get it.... (because they're trust is in man, because they're serving demons).

 

[posthuman]

reading, writing and 'rithmetic are not lies.

 

[posthuman]

all the population is and has been 'prepared' to accept help for food and sustenance and housing and medical care from the beast system. the new id system is in place and soon will be law. even the pastors (a lot , not all) are telling people to go ahead and receive willingly the mark..... destroying their souls before they even get it.... (because they're trust is in man, because they're serving demons).

wait - are you saying that feeding, housing and seeing to the health of the poor and the widows is 'the mark of the beast' ??

i thought that was part of "true religion" ! (James 1:27)

this is the sort of consequence of misplaced focus that makes me say things like "we should spend our effort looking for and speaking of Christ, not antichrist"

 

[kennethcadwell]

Call it what you will but its just more zionist rubbish which comes from reading to much Hal lindsey and "end times"fiction . Dispensational premill zionism (rapture cult) is the doctrine of demons . All this garbage is taught by the wolves at Dallas Theological (philosophical) Seminary where they all bought the lie of Scofieldism . Christian zionism is Antichristian garbage and racist to boot .

This is why research needs to be done because Shoebat and Hal Lindsey do not agree with each other in their prophetic teachings.
This and the prophetic writings of the bible always point to a set of literal events to take place, and just because it uses symbolism does not change that. The symbolism is put there to keep God's plan hidden from those who are not Spiritual minded. The Great tribulation is a literal 3 1/2 years time period, and even the Lord Jesus mentions this in Matthew 24. There are multiple scriptures that point to the same period of time as time times and half a time, 42 months, and 1,260 days are all the same length in time = to 3 1/2 years.

There is no such thing as end times fiction, as Daniel, Ezekiel, Isaiah, Joel, Matthew 24, and Revelation all prophetic books that mention the final events of the end times including the final 7 years of the 70th week of Daniel that is yet to be fulfilled. Only 69 weeks have been fulfilled so far, and one prophetic week is 7 years and Daniel shows clearly that 7 year period starts with the signing of the covenant/treaty by the man of sin.

 

[kennethcadwell]

Everything has happened all ready, but many people's will not understand this, because the predicted man of last time's, who do not anymore take the sound doctrine.

Do not be like the predicted man of the last time's, who loves the world, and can not see the truth.

That is false teaching that all has happened already.

Where is the second coming ?

Where is the 1,000 year millennial reign of Christ on earth ?

Where is the New Jerusalem ?

Where is the all evil, sadness, and death done away with ?

Where is the total destruction of Damascus to no longer be a city ? Last time I checked it is still a city......

And there are many many more prophecies yet to be fulfilled, and you started a thread about the end times by mentioning the mark of the beast. The mark of the beast happens in the last 3 1/2 years, it does not take place nor does any scripture say these events of the tribulation period happen over 1,000's of years.............

 

[InSpiritInTruth]

The "mark" of the beast has been around ever since iniquity entered into man, shown also in Cain.....it's a red mark called "sin"

 

[Jeff_56]

yes, kind of. mankind has been prepared by hasatan and the deception all along and increasing greatly in these days we live in to receive the final mark that no one who gets it can ever repent of it and they never , never, never get to see God's kingdom.

all of society worldwide is already mostly ready and willing to get the mark,

just like for perverted example in society willingly going along with and getting an intimate patdown by a 'security'(ha!) 'guard' at the airport.......