Jehova's Witness Beliefs?

maxwel · Mar 25, 2015

Kedge,

You've really got me curious.

You say you believe in Christ as the savior for sinful mankind, but you aren't a Christian.

1. What do you mean exactly, when you say Christ is the savior for sinful mankind?

2. What do you think it means to be a Christian?

I'm not trying to interrogate you or anything... I'm just really curious about what you think.

valiant · Mar 25, 2015

kedge said:

correct she gave birth to, but did not conceive, GOD.

Yes along with the Father and the Holy Spirit. The Almighty God is triune.

no there is only one God, Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

That too.

She did not conceive God. She conceived the manhood of Jesus.

He is God the Son. He is the Almighty God along with the Father and the Holy Spirit. The term 'Son' is a human term. It is applied to Jesus Christ to show that He had the same nature as the Father.

Dan_473 · Mar 25, 2015

valiant said:

The Name, as in the tetragrammaton, the four letters YHWH, isn't in the nt.

You're quite right, though, that the nt writers used 'Lord' when quoting the ot where the four letter name occurs. You're right also, that the nt uses the same word to refer to Jesus.

But this situation is not acceptable to the Watchtower, they say the YHWH was there, and has been removed.

Brighthouse · Mar 25, 2015

Brother Oyster, If you wish to make short work of this cult,just give them john 14:6-14 to read! There bibles do not carry this!! LOL They also belief in the sabbath.But the Word is clear to this as well!( rom 14:5-9) missing as well from there bibles,. I asked them how is it that you have rev 22:18-21 but have some scripture removed? He politely looked at his watch and said have a nice day.

Most people they encounter do not know the Word themselves,so they have percentage on there side! I do not look to bash them,but the anointing is upon those who do believe. And what is the anointing?? Truth from a lie! ( 2 cor 1:21-22) ( john 14:26) and finally 1 john 2:27! When man teaches us from man,we receive man's results.( psalm 118:8) So just something for you to consider brother!

kedge · Mar 25, 2015

maxwel said:

I'm still researching that, i don't know what makes a Christian a Christian?.

kedge · Mar 25, 2015

valiant said:

This does not make any sense to
me.

Let me try again,

Baby Jesus was born in bethlehem,

Mary was the biological mother to baby Jesus,

Joseph was not the biological father to baby Jesus

Mary became pregnant by God's miracle?

So, the question is, when did baby Jesus become God?

1joseph · Mar 25, 2015

Brighthouse said:

Brother Oyster, If you wish to make short work of this cult,just give them john 14:6-14 to read! There bibles do not carry this!! LOL They also belief in the sabbath.But the Word is clear to this as well!( rom 14:5-9) missing as well from there bibles,. I asked them how is it that you have rev 22:18-21 but have some scripture removed? He politely looked at his watch and said have a nice day.

Most people they encounter do not know the Word themselves,so they have percentage on there side! I do not look to bash them,but the anointing is upon those who do believe. And what is the anointing?? Truth from a lie! ( 2 cor 1:21-22) ( john 14:26) and finally 1 john 2:27! When man teaches us from man,we receive man's results.( psalm 118:8) So just something for you to consider brother!

Yep. Just tell them to hold on while I get my Bible, and they will flee. It works every time.

Lovely people though.

maxwel · Mar 25, 2015

kedge said:

Although there is much debate about that,
within orthodoxy it is well agreed it's contingent up a very particular "conversion experience".

That "conversion experience" goes by many different names...
but it is something that orthodox Christians agree on.

1joseph · Mar 25, 2015

kedge said:

At his (Jesus') conception.

Matthew 1: 18-25
[SUP]19 [/SUP]Joseph was her promised husband. He was a good man and did not want to make it hard for Mary in front of people. He thought it would be good to break the promised marriage without people knowing it. [SUP]20 [/SUP]While he was thinking about this, an angel of the Lord came to him in a dream. The angel said, “Joseph, son of David, do not be afraid to take Mary as your wife. She is to become a mother by the Holy Spirit. [SUP]21 [/SUP]A Son will be born to her. You will give Him the name Jesus because He will save His people from the punishment of their sins.”
[SUP]22 [/SUP]This happened as the Lord said it would happen through the early preacher. [SUP]23 [/SUP]He said, “The young woman, who has never had a man, will give birth to a Son. They will give Him the name Immanuel. This means God with us.” [SUP]24 [/SUP]Joseph awoke from his sleep. He did what the angel of the Lord told him to do. He took Mary as his wife. [SUP]25 [/SUP]But he did not have her, as a husband has a wife, until she gave birth to a Son. Joseph gave Him the name Jesus.

...of which I know you agree kedge.

kedge · Mar 25, 2015

maxwel said:

So they agree on something that goes by different names?

slave · Mar 25, 2015

Yes, yet all one. Which is called the triune. Even Satan respects this to the point of imitating it in the end times.He is famous for taking all of Gods original blessings and perverting a knock-off version.

kedge · Mar 25, 2015

1joseph said:

Well that makes sense yes, but some are saying that Jesus is God, but my question is when did Jesus become God?, do you mean that Jesus would be a reflection of His Heavenly Father the Almighty God?

kedge · Mar 25, 2015

slave said:

But that could denote the Trinity which is a central doctrinal teaching of the Catholic church leaders, so are you all catholic?

1joseph · Mar 25, 2015

kedge said:

According to Webster's...

"One who believes, or professes or is assumed to believe, in Jesus Christ, and the truth as taught by Him; especially, one whose inward and outward life is conformed to the doctrines of Christ."

kedge · Mar 25, 2015

1joseph said:

Ah!, well, i don't adhere to the whole teachings, so that helps me to understand that i am not a Christian, of which i already knew though.

slave · Mar 25, 2015

The water, ice , steam was a logically good example I think, yet not everything of God is easy for us to understand . For instance, I will never understand how God is the Alpha and Omega. I can conjure up an idea of something starting and never ending in my imagination, but to say it never had a start, boggles the mind. We have never known anything not to have a starting point. So because of that lack of experience some might say that is impossible. Yet it is so. The triune begins to scratch at those limits in our understanding too. We can try to open up our thoughts of possibilities yet we have no background to relate to that exact set-up. Yet it is so.

We limit God by OUR reason. Yet God says, even the brightest of Humans can not even approach his wisdom and intellect.

I think it is safe to say there are some things that we have to wait to get to heaven to understand in detail. Not to say we shouldn't ask the questions for God will delight in answering them but some things of God are just deeper than we are!

slave · Mar 25, 2015

What makes a christian a christian?...........It's simple - God allowed it with the blood of Christ. And then We made it happen in our Faith, to that history of Christ.

! John 5 :11-12...> AND THIS IS THE TESTIMONY GOD HAS GIVEN US ETERNAL LIFE AND THIS LIFE IS IN HIS SON. HE WHO HAS THE SON HAS LIFE. HE WHO DOES NOT HAVE THE SON OF GOD DOES NOT HAVE LIFE.

If we chose the Son.....we chose life . Anything short of that does not a christian make.

valiant · Mar 25, 2015

kedge said:

He did not become God. He was God from eternity past.

When Mary conceived a human baby instead of having a human spirit its spirit was the Spirit of Christ through the working of the Holy Spirit..

1joseph · Mar 25, 2015

kedge said:

Joseph gave him the name "Jesus," but as you read in the scripture he (the person called Jesus) was God with us--Immanuel.

According to John 1 he, God's son (the Word,) was with God in the beginning.

John 1: 1-5 Christ Lived Before the World Was Made

1 The Word (Christ) was in the beginning. The Word was with God. The Word was God. [SUP]2 [/SUP]He was with God in the beginning. [SUP]3 [/SUP]He made all things. Nothing was made without Him making it. [SUP]4 [/SUP]Life began by Him. His Life was the Light for men. [SUP]5 [/SUP]The Light shines in the darkness. The darkness has never been able to put out the Light.

It is futile to try and figure out how 3 Entities are 1 Entity. They just are. Hey, this is where faith, trust, and the understanding that God is God and can do anything your mind can imagine, and even things it can not imagine. Can God put a camel through he eye of a needle? Yes. It is nothing to him, the creator.

The only time God was not with his son was when he forsook his son so that he (the son) could take on the sins of the world--past, present, and future. Remember here, to God there is no past, present, and future...there just is.

Does this help answer your question?

1joseph · Mar 25, 2015

kedge said:

What teachings do you not adhere to?

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