Confess your sins (1 John 1:8-10)

MikkoAinasoja · Mar 28, 2015

8. If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10. If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us. (1 John 1:8-10)

This doctrine is has grate wisdom in, because if do confess our sins we come clean for the sins, but if do not confess our sins we say in our sins.

So today, as we know that christian all over the world, do not even want to believe that man can get out of the circle of sinning, but the man will stay to in that sinning. And this is because the man of today has not really never confess the sins what he do, but defense the sin in his life, and that's why the man of today can not come clean for the sinning.

Confess your sins.

michael56 · Mar 28, 2015

MikkoAinasoja said:

The problem is, most don't understand the Gospel message of how sin is to be overcome, for few ministers actually preach that message. Tragically, the most sincere who believe what is taught, are the most likely to walk away from the faith, as in honest estimation of themselves, they know they cannot live up to what is preached and forsake all their sin.

What born again Christian would not say sorry to their Father in Heaven when they do sin/err? Such a thing is not possible.

kedge · Mar 28, 2015

MikkoAinasoja said:

Yeah, in private and direct to God through the Christ and no other, that's how i roll.

MadParrotWoman · Mar 28, 2015

kedge said:

Yep a priest is just a man, we go to the top and confess.

GracethroughfaithinChrist · Mar 28, 2015

Often misunderstood part of the Bible (1 John 1:8-19)

Look familiar?
Perhaps 20 pages on this topic that you started on another thread here in the bible discussion forum did not satisfy your needs?
So you start an identical thread and narrow it down from 1 John 1:8-19 to 1 John 1:8-10....... and now people are just supposed to jump right in and debate each other again for your amusement?

MikkoAinasoja · Mar 28, 2015

kedge said:

Some time our sins may be that kind, that we should confess the sin also to the other man, but all wrongness inside us we should confess our Lord, and not fight against the truth inside of us, example like loving the of mammon, what people's today do not want to admit that they do that.

And how the spirit of truth can find the space on you, and can wash the wrongness in you, if reject the truth, and choose the lie?

MikkoAinasoja · Mar 28, 2015

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GracethroughfaithinChrist · Mar 28, 2015

MikkoAinasoja said:

So are you Catholic.......Roman Catholic?.......
We confess our personal sins in real time to God when we are alerted via the Spirit of our transgressions. We have only one Intercessor, even Christ who sits at the right hand of the Father in heaven.

mailmandan · Mar 28, 2015

MikkoAinasoja said:

Notice that - If we confess our sins, he is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness (vs. 9) is IN CONTRAST TO - If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us (vs. 8) and - If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us (vs. 10). Some people misunderstand verse 9 to mean that we must confess each sin that we commit as we commit them (keep a specific inventory) as an additional requirement to remain cleansed and if we forget a sin we are toast!

MikkoAinasoja · Mar 28, 2015

mailmandan said:

The real message is that if we confess the sins we come clean for the sins, but if we not confess our sins, in honest way, we make the Lord liar, and the truth is not in us, and we keep sinning.

The problem of today is that, that the man do not confess the wrongness inside of him, even though he may claim to do that, so he love lie more than truth and he keep sinning and truth is not inside of him.

Confess your sins and make the improvements.

mailmandan · Mar 28, 2015

MikkoAinasoja said:

To not confess our sins but say we have no sin or we have not sinned and keep on practicing sin demonstrates what about a person? 1 John 3:8 the one who practices sin is of the devil; for the devil has sinned from the beginning. The Son of God appeared for this purpose, to destroy the works of the devil. 9 No one who is born of God practices sin, because His seed abides in him; and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

joeyruready · Mar 28, 2015

GracethroughfaithinChrist said:

MadParrotWoman said:

kedge said:

You will all obviously do as you please rather than practice the word of God. You must know the word and also put it into practice or you are only deceiving yourselves. So as a response to these three posts here are a few scriptures you should know, understand and practice.

James 5:16 Therefore confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous person is powerful and effective.
Psalm 32:5 Then I acknowledged my sin to you and did not cover up my iniquity. I said, “I will confess my transgressions to the Lord.” And you forgave the guilt of my sin.

1 Timothy 6:12 Fight the good fight of the faith. Take hold of the eternal life to which you were called when you made your good confession in the presence of many witnesses.

These are God's words not mine. Is HE your God? I choose to obey God. It is HIs word that tells us to confess our sin to Him AND to one another AND in front of many witnesses. IF we are not practicing HIs word we are only deceiving ourselves.

James 1:22 Do not merely listen to the word, and so deceive yourselves. Do what it says.

I speak the truth when I say to you that it is pride that keeps you from confessing your sins as God has instructed us. Are you too embarrassed or ashamed to speak the truth about your own sin to others or to many witnesses? If you hate your sin confessing it is walking in agreement with God's word. It is evidence and practice of hatred of sin and love for God and HIs justice. To exemplify my own words:

I confess to each of you and before God and you all, I have denied God. I lived for years with no belief in Him whatsoever. I have lusted. I have hated others instead of loving them. I have been impatient and unkind. I have been rude and self seeking. I have been unforgiving. I do not always trust God! The truth is If i were to try to confess all of my sin it would probably fill a library of books. I have broken every single commandment. I am a liar, I am a thief, I am an adulterer. I have committed murder. (holding hatred in my heart against others) Jesus came to this world to save sinners of whom I am the worst.

We know God desires worshippers who worship Him in spirit and in truth. Which of you can tell me what our spiritual act of worship is? We know God lifts up the humble but brings down the proud. Which of you can tell me ways you practice humility? Which of you can tell me why God wants us to confess our sins not only to him but also to others and in front of many witnesses??? Are we to humble ourselves before God only or before others also? Indeed we are to humble ourselves before God And also before others.

James 4:10 Humble yourselves before the Lord, and he will lift you up.
1 Peter 5:5 In the same way, you who are younger, submit yourselves to your elders. All of you, clothe yourselves with humility toward one another, because, “God opposes the proud but shows favor to the humble.”

I tell you the truth; one part of walking humbly or "clothing ourselves" in humility is to confess our sins to one another. Which of you will join me in making a good confession in front of many witnesses?

All glory and honor and power always be to our God and Father from whom all good things come.

GracethroughfaithinChrist · Mar 28, 2015

joeyruready said:

Thanks joey,.......
but......
We who aren't on babies milk but have matured in Christ through the Spirit that has dawned in our hearts being nourished up on the Word do not need instruction about confession and scriptures from those who are mere infants in Christ who wrest with the scriptures and make erroneous assumptions such as yourself. Those who do not have an ability to discern good from evil and don't have a clue about what they are talking about, serve little to no benefit whatsoever in offering instructions for Christian living to us and most certainly we almost never benefit from their mislead and carnal instructions towards us in our common faith.

As far as Roman Catholicism goes, confession and the like.......i was born into a very devout Roman Catholic family that had been practicing Roman Catholicism for at least 4 generations before i was even born...... Baptized shortly after being born, i went on to attend mass with my family regularly at St.Vincent Catholic Church. After attending mass with my family for several more years......began my education the first year in public school as there was no availability for me to attend a local Catholic school for kindergarten age children then when my family moved to Southern California in the late 70's. At 6 and 7 years of age attended Our Lady of Lourdes where i was educated in Roman Catholicism practiced confession and received my "first communion".......then after moving again attended St.George Parish School at 9 and 10 years of age......then from ages 11 and 12 was educated at
Sacred Heart Parish School all along attending to confession and mass regularly through the majority of the years of my primary and partially of my secondary education.

Fast forward 21 years later.......i had stopped going to mass regularly for several years at that point in life but would often attend mass during Christmas, Easter, Ash Wednesday, and for Palm Sunday having partaken in confession and communion as confession is a requirement in the Roman Catholic faith to receive communion.

One evening during the spring of 2006 after attempting suicide by putting a gun in my mouth during a drunken stupor... (the gun did not engage after squeezing the trigger, thank God!).... i went to sleep having almost given up on life and was utterly ashamed of myself but before i fell asleep that night i prayed with tears in my eyes and asked God to forgive me thinking He would not. i awoke from sleep the next morning and found myself dancing around realizing that my sins had been forgiven by Jesus Christ through His blood. I was ecstatic and full of joy having experienced the dawning of the Holy Spirit in my heart and could not believe what had happened.......i was saved by grace through faith in Christ. i couldn't wait to go tell everybody i knew what had happened thinking that all who claimed the title "Christian" would rejoice for God had saved a sinner like me and forgave all my sins. i had went to mass 3 weeks in a row after that at Saint Bonaventure Church in Huntington Beach CA without attending confession and for the 2 weeks prior i no longer addressed the preist there as father but called him brother and shook his hand. Also when everyone bowed their head in prayer "let us pray" i would look up and smile while praying. Third week came and one of the preists there that i was very found of having attended masses he served at after hearing of my testimony, he told me "it's not enough to be Christian you have to be a Catholic".......my jaw dropped and it was a BIG EYE OPENER!!!

The next time you rush to condemnation and judgement of other believers in Christ Jesus here and assume we don't know the scriptures and practice confessing our sins to God, and receive forgiveness for them through the blood of Christ and through Christ our only Intercessor and High Priest,(that confession to men could never do). ...... you would do well to think before you speak as you haven't any clue about what God has done for us,taught us through the scriptures and His Holy Spirit, and where He has delivered us from, nor who you are addressing.......

God bless you friend and think before you speak.......

twotwo · Mar 28, 2015

MikkoAinasoja said:

Great advice but to who!

It does not take much humility to do it alone in a room.

Ideally, this should be done publicly during the mass!

Faith without humility is nothing!

Viligant_Warrior · Mar 28, 2015

MikkoAinasoja said:

Uh ... no, not quite, Mikko.

Confession of sin will help to keep us from the discipline of the Lord. It keeps fellowship "health and vital" with Christ Jesus our Lord. We already have, through our expressed and accepted (by God) faith in Christ “positional” forgiveness, also called "judicial" forgiveness As members of the body of Christ through faith by His Grace, every sin we ever committed or will commit is forgiven. That is what the price paid by Christ on the cross has done, satisfied Godthe Father’s wrath against us. There is no further sacrifice or payment, including by confession.

Jesus cried out from the cross, “It is finished!” It is actually one Greek word -- teleo (telios), or as it is used in John 19:30, to telestai. He meant it is finished for all time, a one-time sacrifice with ongoing consequence -- the aorist tense, in other words. Our positional forgiveness was obtained then and there. We never have to do anything to achieve, continue, or culminate that forgiveness. But we do need to keep the fellowship vital, and that is what confession does.

Our sins are already forgiven. But as with asking people to forgive us, asking forgiveness from God is for us, not for God. We acknowledge we have sinned, and when we do, it alleviates stress and gives us the confidence to know the relationship is still intact, something He has promised will always be the case, because we don't -- we can't -- do anything to save ourselves. Only He can, He did, and it is for once and all..

Confession of sin will help to keep us from the discipline of the Lord. If we fail to confess sin, the discipline of the Lord is sure to come until we do confess it. As stated previously, our sins are forgiven at salvation (positional forgiveness), but our daily fellowship with God needs to stay in good standing (relational forgiveness). Proper fellowship with God cannot happen with unconfessed sin in our lives. Therefore, we need to confess our sins to God as soon as we are aware that we have sinned, in order to maintain close fellowship with God.

Joidevivre · Mar 28, 2015

Every time I read about confessing sin, I just can't wrap my mind around the details. Once I confessed and repented and received forgiveness and became a daughter of God and given the righteousness of Christ, I felt I had two choices:

One was to constantly take my spiritual temperature and if so I would be confessing ALL THE TIME - from a selfish act, to a prideful one, from a word of anger to a failure to obey, from a seed of bitterness in my heart to speaking or acting not from faith. I am a sinful creature - and I could find something wrong most of the time. My flesh will do its thing even when I try not to let it. I would also become very self centered - and hours would be taken away that I might spend just worshiping, enjoying the presence of the Lord and studying the bible. Especially in ministering to others through prayer, etc.

The 2nd choice was to recognize that in my flesh dwells no good thing - and to keep my eyes on His goodness, His grace, His mercy, His presence, His love which would most likely begin to change me. (You become more of what you focus on). I would trust the Holy Spirit and the promise He gave me that He would complete the work that He has begun to conform me to the image of Christ. I would only confess something that the Holy Spirit convicted me of and told me that I needed to repent in order to understand that I have been forgiven and to ask for help in that area. But most of my spiritual time would be spent delighting in the Lord - worshiping, enjoying the bible.

What would you choose?

I find that most of the time when I really blow it (angry words, etc.), I get a check in my spirit and hear "You really didn't need to do that. You can do better than that." Even before I confess, He is talking to me about my action. It is more of a relationship where the Lord is speaking to me all the time about whatever I do. A back and forth conversation.

jamie26301 · Mar 28, 2015

Joidevivre said:

I have tried this - nearly drove myself insane. The more you focus on being holy, the harder it becomes. Because you are constantly, what Linda Mintle calls, "thought-stopping." And it is exhausting. The more you focus on stopping unholy thoughts, the less you realize those around you and even God Himself.

Let me put it this way: After trying to be as sinless as possible for a couple of months, I collapsed on the bed and cried "Oh, just let me die!" Wasn't suicidal, but after even that short time, I didn't want to live if trying to be perfect (holy) was part of it.

Recognizing one's sins is something to be mindful of, and a little self-check should be done once in a while: "What are my motives? This thing I judge her for, do I do that?" But minute by minute (which would be required to even attempt perfection) is simply not healthy. I remember reading psychologists saying that some people became their patients by following Norman Peals advice. Which was an intense, constant, mindful focus on positivity. Positivity is good, but nothing it really good in extremes.

Willie-T · Mar 28, 2015

jamie26301 said:

I have tried this - nearly drove myself insane. The more you focus on being holy, the harder it becomes. Because you are constantly, what Linda Mintle calls, "thought-stopping." And it is exhausting. The more you focus on stopping unholy thoughts, the less you realize those around you and even God Himself.

Let me put it this way: After trying to be as sinless as possible for a couple of months, I collapsed on the bed and cried "Oh, just let me die!" Wasn't suicidal, but after even that short time, I didn't want to live if trying to be perfect (holy) was part of it.

Recognizing one's sins is something to be mindful of, and a little self-check should be done once in a while: "What are my motives? This thing I judge her for, do I do that?" But minute by minute (which would be required to even attempt perfection) is simply not healthy. I remember reading psychologists saying that some people became their patients by following Norman Peals advice. Which was an intense, constant, mindful focus on positivity. Positivity is good, but nothing it really good in extremes.

Actually, the more you focus on not sinning, it is not logical, but the more you will think about sinning.

As a man thinketh, so is he.

Blain · Mar 28, 2015

some believe that we are made clean by the blood of Jesus and from then on we never sin again and if we do the truth is not in us, these ppl make lots of threads on being perfect and never sinning or having sin. The thing is to be holy we have to have no sin but to think we are holy because we never sin is simply a mind trick from the devil. we are humans we are sinful in nature, we sin every day with our actions our feelings even our inner most thoughts. but you know if I am to be holy I am glad I have to repent all the time to be clean because it keeps me relying on him rather than myself. oops did I just say something profound? ;b

jamie26301 · Mar 28, 2015

Blain said:

And some people say a literal interpretation of the Bible is not dangerous at all.
It's like anything else - it's what you focus on. Which is why there are so many doctrines. One person hones in here, another person hones in there.

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