Sinful lifestyles

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I am against gay marriage and also people having sex before marriage and people doing drugs, but how is it that Christians pick homosexuals as horrible, but not flag the other two to the extreme??? To me its all the same, its all a sinful lifestyle that is against God, none worse than the other. It may affect differently, but still sin.

I am guilty of having a sexual relationship outside of marriage, but I did repent and haven't since. I am the first person to raise my hand and say I don't want gay marriage legalized or pot legalized, but where are the 97% of people who ARE having sex out of marriage? Its like we became accustomed to that because it happens so easily and more people have accepted it. We may not all know a gay person, we all may not know a druggie, but Im pretty sure every single person reading this has or knows someone who has had sex out of marriage, but do we share Gods word with them as well and stand firm on our beliefs with that? I actually have lost a friend due to me standing up to her and her relationship. I said it in love, but she didn't want to hear it. I feel no guilt. Just my little rant for the moment. :)
 
I am against gay marriage and also people having sex before marriage and people doing drugs, but how is it that Christians pick homosexuals as horrible, but not flag the other two to the extreme??? To me its all the same, its all a sinful lifestyle that is against God, none worse than the other. It may affect differently, but still sin.

Christians should not be picking homosexuals as horrible. Homosexual lifestyle? Yes. Hate the sin, not the sinner. And the reason it seems like Christians speak of homosexuality more than other sins is because unbelievers continue to bring up the subject again and again. And believers do this as well.

Yes, they are all sins, but not sure why you believe Christians don't think so. Drug use is a sin against God and man, and every bit has horrible as one living the homosexual lifestyle. As well, it doesn't matter what we are against. What matters is what God is against.

The unbelievers who come here ALWAYS use the sin of homosexuality to try and trip up believers and cause dissention within the church. Believers, especially young or new believers always bring it up because they are trying to understand why it is a sin.

How about folks just stop bringing up the subject? Sure would make me happy.........Some of the threads one sees on the BDF and even here lately are unbelievable for a Christian Forum in my opinion.

Anyway, God bless

 
Sin is sin.

All sin is sinning.
...........and sin is bad.

Bad is sinning also.
 
Sin is sin.

All sin is sinning.
...........and sin is bad.

Bad is sinning also.

I apologize for this note above.
This is what happens when you try to give advice first thing in the morning. :(



.......plus.... trying to do it from a smartphone, in the dark, with one eye open, doesn't help.
 
I apologize for this note above.
This is what happens when you try to give advice first thing in the morning. :(



.......plus.... trying to do it from a smartphone, in the dark, with one eye open, doesn't help.

Are you on stealth mode? Put on your green light.....you been hanging around that ninja bug too long....

Sin is separation from God...anything done that causes separation is wrong.....even a little white lie.....

Back to green lights....you need to turn your green light back on.... You know let your light so shine before men to give God the Glory......Morning....is it still dark in Las Vegas?
 
Are you on stealth mode? Put on your green light.....you been hanging around that ninja bug too long....

Sin is separation from God...anything done that causes separation is wrong.....even a little white lie.....

Back to green lights....you need to turn your green light back on.... You know let your light so shine before men to give God the Glory......Morning....is it still dark in Las Vegas?


You're right.

Maybe somebody who lives in Sin City......
................shouldn't be giving advice on what sin is or isn't?


BTW, I go stealth.
It keeps the blue ladybugs away from the pretty glowing lights. :)
 
I apologize for this note above.
This is what happens when you try to give advice first thing in the morning. :(



.......plus.... trying to do it from a smartphone, in the dark, with one eye open, doesn't help.

Shoot, it made sense to me.........now the Blonde? Well..........
 
I don’t judge homosexuals. It's going to be hard enough to give account of myself when judgement day rolls around, its not my business or place to judge another person based on what they do. That goes for anything, not just homosexuality.
 
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I am against gay marriage and also people having sex before marriage and people doing drugs, but how is it that Christians pick homosexuals as horrible, but not flag the other two to the extreme??? To me its all the same, its all a sinful lifestyle that is against God, none worse than the other. It may affect differently, but still sin.

I am guilty of having a sexual relationship outside of marriage, but I did repent and haven't since. I am the first person to raise my hand and say I don't want gay marriage legalized or pot legalized, but where are the 97% of people who ARE having sex out of marriage? Its like we became accustomed to that because it happens so easily and more people have accepted it. We may not all know a gay person, we all may not know a druggie, but Im pretty sure every single person reading this has or knows someone who has had sex out of marriage, but do we share Gods word with them as well and stand firm on our beliefs with that? I actually have lost a friend due to me standing up to her and her relationship. I said it in love, but she didn't want to hear it. I feel no guilt. Just my little rant for the moment. :)

Yes. If we condemn homosexuality while giving our blessing to other sin, the homosexuals expose our hypocrisy and ignore us.
 
I think so many Christians call out the sin of homosexual sex more than other sins because they find it so foreign. We are more apt to commit other sins (gossip, envy, anger...) than have homosexual contact that it becomes an easy target. My inability to forgive someone is just as bad as having a homosexual sexual encounter. Unfortunately, we believe that some sins are more palatable than others. :cool:
 
I think so many Christians call out the sin of homosexual sex more than other sins because they find it so foreign. We are more apt to commit other sins (gossip, envy, anger...) than have homosexual contact that it becomes an easy target. My inability to forgive someone is just as bad as having a homosexual sexual encounter. Unfortunately, we believe that some sins are more palatable than others. :cool:

Hmm, not for me.............drug abuse is right up near the top for me..........as is alcoholism, spousal and/or child abuse, and especially denial of Jesus Christ...........

If I had to pick the two sins I most dislike it would be denial of Jesus Christ and spousal and/or child abuse. Homosexuality would be on the list, but not nearly at the top.
 
Mat 7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
Mat 7:2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.


We know sin and can identify with it because we are all sinners. The trick is not to judge one another and leave it to the Father when we meet Him one day.

There is a fine line between judging and telling somebody that they live in sin and only we know what we are doing and if we are doing it with a pure hart.
 
A valid question. Outside Christ, all sin separates one from Holy God. However, God is also just and fair so it's no surprise that the Bible teaches sin gradients. The Mosaic Law itself which formed the core of the old covenant God had with the ancient nation of Israel is a perfect example; however, the New Testament itself is replete with them including Jesus Himself telling Pilate in John 19:11 "therefore he that delivered me to you has the greater sin."

So all sin separates one from Holy God outside of Christ but justice acknowledges that sin gradients. Sins like murder, for example, are actually worse than say taking a pencil from work without asking. Keep this in mind moving forward as we look at God's design for humanity.

Look at Genesis 5:2, "He [God] created them male (1) and female (2), and He blessed them and named them Man (3) in the day when they were created."

1 male = זָכָר
2 female = נְקֵבָה
3 Man = אָדָם

In ancient Hebrew, these words have very specific meanings. 1 male means a biological male not just a gender role. 2 female means a biological female not just a gender role. 3 means mankind or humanity encompassing both biological males and females with the gender roles that each were designed for.

Now God created males and females biologically distinct and it's together they receive His mandate and blessing to be fruitful and multiply and have dominion over creation (Gen 1:27–28). Together a biological male and biological woman are complete (Gen 2:18–25). The very pairing of man and woman in the assertion "male and female he created them" (Gen 1:27 RSV) implies that together the two biologically different sexes make up humanity and the great manifestation of this essential unity is marriage (Gen 2:23–24) between a man and a woman.

So in the Genesis 1 creation account, Adam emerges as "the human" (hā’āḏām, Gen 1:26–27), differentiated as a biological male and biological female (e.g. "male זָכָר and female נְקֵבָה He [God] created them.")

When Genesis 1-3 is lined up next to Ephesians 5 we see that husband and wife means a biologically differentiated man and woman and that this was God's intent from the beginning.

Homosexuality is sin like all other but it gradients differently than say fornication (which is also serious sexual immorality as you rightly state) because it's a choice to exchange God's design for unnatural purpose. As an "identity," it's rebellion against a holy Creator God and His design for humanity.

In fact, homosexuality as an "identity" is a recent non-biblical ungodly construct that modernists and post-modernists began to assert around the sexual immorality of homosexuality.

While references to homosexual acts are limited in Scripture, they become a powerful image for those who in their rebellion and blindness choose to give up God’s good gift of normative morality in healthy sexuality and exchange it for something degrading and unnatural.

Homosexual acts become a symbol in Scripture for violating a basic principle of holiness: mixing that which the Lord declared should be separate.

In Romans 1, Paul condemns homosexual acts, lesbian as well as male, in the same breath as idolatry (vv. 23–27), but his theological canvas is broader than that. Instead of treating homosexual behavior as an expression of idolatrous worship, he traces both to the bad ‘exchange’ fallen man has made in departing from his Creator’s intention. Seen from this angle, every homosexual act is unnatural, because it flies in the face of God’s creation scheme for human sexual expression.

This accounts for the strong language in the Bible that those who choose to unrepentantly engage in homosexual acts can eventually become reprobate at which point God lets go giving them up to their lusts (Rom 1:18–25).

It is one thing to repent and become a Christian in recovery/sanctification struggling with sin issues, relying on God's grace, while steadfastly seeking repair from Creator God towards sanctification. This is the condition many Christians find themselves in. Perhaps all of us, to some extent myself included. We are born-again and have aligned ourselves with our Creator and His truth and earnestly desire and commit to be whole moral people.

It is entirely another to engage in willful rebellion against the one true Holy Creator God and forsake His morality, forsake His natural design for humanity and good plan for one's life, adopt a sexually immoral identity to live out as a "lifestyle," and then either repudiate His Word entirely or malign it to "justify" all of the above.

And while one can certainly act in a similar way with respect to other sexual sin, this is why homosexuality is a greater sin than fornication and why the Bible speaks so strongly against it. This fantasy being propagated at present in our culture that homosexuality is equitable with heterosexuality and that homosexual marriage is equitable with heterosexual marriage is a great deception for this reason.

There isn't a homosexual marriage on the planet that ever will have God's recognition as legitimate and blessing. In spiritual terms, the act is a sacrilege of marriage.

Remind me at a later date to show you the studies from Oxford, Harvard, etc... that 20th century anthropologists published showing what happens to human civilizations throughout history that discard absolute monogamy as is occurring now in Western Civilization. Yes, scholarly historical and anthropological studies exist on the topic and they are quite enlightening. It appears entire civilizations can reach a point where God withdraws His hand of blessing when they forsake His design and good purpose for them.


I am against gay marriage and also people having sex before marriage and people doing drugs, but how is it that Christians pick homosexuals as horrible, but not flag the other two to the extreme??? To me its all the same, its all a sinful lifestyle that is against God, none worse than the other. It may affect differently, but still sin.
 
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Who Are Your To Judge? - Should A Christian Judge Others? | helpforhomeschoolers.com

"But is that really how it is? Are we because we are Christians not to judge others?

Let’s look at what God’s word says about judgment.First we’ll look at Matthew 7 and the teaching of Jesus...

Matthew 7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.

2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?

5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.

If we look at the whole text we can see that this is not a call not to judge, but a call to be careful and judge rightly. To first look at ourselves and then once we have examined our own sin, then we will be able to see clearly to look at the sin of our brother. Jesus is saying “DON'T BE A HYPOCRITE!”

Know that you will be judged as you judge others, so judge rightly! Look first at your sin and do something about it...repent and be forgiven, and then you will understand that your brother also be given opportunity for repentance and forgiveness.

But you will note here that once you have dealt with the beam in your own eye, you can see clearly to cast the mote from your brother’s eye. Once you have removed the beam from your own eye, you can see more clearly what God expects and your judgment is no longer based on appearances or man’s ideas, but on GOD’S WORD.

This is consistent with John 7:24, which clearly says that we are to judge....

John 7:24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment."
 
Throwing stones at adulteresses in an attempt to murder them is obviously not the same thing as following scripture in judging rightly (e.g. the act of discernment). But, a lot of people make that false assertion due to their ignorance.

Read this article: What Did Jesus Mean by "Judge Not"? | PARSE
 
let him [or her] who is without sin cast the first rock, js


One of the most misused verse in Scripture.

The "judging" Jesus is referring to here is the meted out JUSTICE that the Jews were going to do to the adulterous woman, NOT the fact that she was guilty. She WAS guilty. Jesus told us so by forgiving her sin and telling her to SIN NO MORE.