The Seven Holy Spirits of God

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
Mar 31, 2015
55
0
0
#1
The Seven Holy Spirits of God

Revelation 5:6

And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts,
and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain,
having seven horns and seven eyes,

which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.


 

mailmandan

Senior Member
Apr 7, 2014
25,126
13,138
113
58
#2
I understand the seven Spirits of God are not seven Holy Spirits but the 7-fold Spirit of God.. The Bible, and especially the book of Revelation, uses the number 7 to refer to perfection and completion. If that is the meaning of the "seven" in the "seven spirits," then it is not referring to seven different Spirits of God, but rather the perfect and complete Holy Spirit.

 

Zmouth

Senior Member
Nov 21, 2012
3,391
134
63
#3
These seven lights which form the visible
light originate from the Father of lights

James 1:17


whose light is neither clear nor dark.
Zechariah 14:6
 

oldhermit

Senior Member
Jul 28, 2012
9,144
613
113
70
Alabama
#4
The Seven Holy Spirits of God

Revelation 5:6

And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts,
and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain,
having seven horns and seven eyes,

which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.



"And from the seven spirits who are before His throne."
There is no justification for the capitalization of "spirits". This is not a description of the nature of God.

a. This statement cannot be understood apart from 4:5 which reads "And there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God;" The seven spirits which are the seven lamps of fire that burn before to throne are the seven churches to whom this revelation is sent (verse 20), "As for the mystery of the seven stars which you saw in My right hand, and the seven golden lampstands: the seven stars are the angels of the seven churches, and the seven lampstands are the seven churches."

b. Their position is "before" the throne.


* The significance of "before the throne" could be for the purpose of judgment, particularly since we will see this judgment of the fidelity of these seven churches weighed in the balances in chapters two and three.
* Since this is found in the body of the salutation, "before the throne" could also simply represent the position that the church holds as those who belong to God hence the expression "which are the seven spirits of God;" ('Which are' - ἃ - nominative neuter plural).

 

posthuman

Senior Member
Jul 31, 2013
36,825
13,186
113
#5
These seven lights which form the visible
light originate from the Father of lights

James 1:17


whose light is neither clear nor dark.
Zechariah 14:6
that's a pretty cool gif, but physically speaking, breaking down the continuum of visible light into 7 distinct bands is pretty arbitrary. you may as well have 3, or 6, or eleventy-4, with equal justification.

Electromagnetic-Spectrum-BLACK.jpg

why should the invisible God be confined to human-eye visible spectra anyway?
 

mailmandan

Senior Member
Apr 7, 2014
25,126
13,138
113
58
#6
Isaiah 11:2 declares: And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD.
 

posthuman

Senior Member
Jul 31, 2013
36,825
13,186
113
#8
Isaiah 11:2 declares: And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD.

  1. wisdom
  2. understanding
  3. counsel
  4. might
  5. knowledge
  6. fear of the LORD
  7. . . . ???


    there's a temptation to count this according to a wrong measure, IMHO.
 
May 18, 2010
931
15
18
#9
Lol, you made a thread on this matter?

Hi,

The way I see it is that the Seven Spirits which are written in Revelation chapter 5 are the Seven Angels watching over the Seven churches of God from Revelation 1. The reason behind my theorization is that they are portrayed in chapter 5 as lampstands with eyes, and in chapter 1 they are only lampstands, the lampstands with eyes speaks to me that they have eyes over the lampstands. So that is why I believe it in that sense. The characteristics of the Holy Spirit have nothing to do with it to me.
 

valiant

Senior Member
Mar 22, 2015
8,025
124
63
#10
I understand the seven Spirits of God are not seven Holy Spirits but the 7-fold Spirit of God.. The Bible, and especially the book of Revelation, uses the number 7 to refer to perfection and completion. If that is the meaning of the "seven" in the "seven spirits," then it is not referring to seven different Spirits of God, but rather the perfect and complete Holy Spirit.

where I think this interpretation fails is that the Holy Spirit would not be before the throne, He would be on the throne.
 

mailmandan

Senior Member
Apr 7, 2014
25,126
13,138
113
58
#11
Lol, you made a thread on this matter?

Hi,

The way I see it is that the Seven Spirits which are written in Revelation chapter 5 are the Seven Angels watching over the Seven churches of God from Revelation 1. The reason behind my theorization is that they are portrayed in chapter 5 as lampstands with eyes, and in chapter 1 they are only lampstands, the lampstands with eyes speaks to me that they have eyes over the lampstands. So that is why I believe it in that sense. The characteristics of the Holy Spirit have nothing to do with it to me.
Interesting. There seems to be different interpretations to what the seven Spirits of God are.

Question: "What are the seven spirits of God?"

Answer: The "seven spirits of God" are mentioned in Revelation 1:4; 3:1; 4:5; and 5:6. The seven spirits of God are not specifically identified, so it’s impossible to be dogmatic. Revelation 1:4 mentions that the seven spirits are before God's throne. Revelation 3:1 indicates that Jesus Christ "holds" the seven spirits of God. Revelation 4:5 links the seven spirits of God with seven burning lamps that are before God's throne. Revelation 5:6 identifies the seven spirits with the "seven eyes" of the Lamb and states that they are "sent out into all the earth."

There are at least three possible interpretations of the seven spirits of God. The first is that the seven spirits of God are symbolic of the Holy Spirit. The Bible, and especially the book of Revelation, uses the number 7 to refer to perfection and completion. If that is the meaning of the “seven” in the "seven spirits," then it is not referring to seven different spirits of God, but rather the perfect and complete Holy Spirit. The second view is that the seven spirits of God refer to seven angelic beings, possibly the seraphim or the cherubim. This would fit with the numerous others angelic beings that are described in the book of Revelation (Revelation 4:6-9; 5:6-14; 19:4-5).

A third possibility is based on Isaiah 11:2, which says, “The Spirit of the LORD will rest on him — the Spirit of wisdom and of understanding, the Spirit of counsel and of power, the Spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD.” This could possibly explain the seven spirits of God: (1) Spirit of the LORD, (2) Spirit of wisdom, (3) Spirit of understanding, (4) Spirit of counsel, (5) Spirit of power, (6) Spirit of knowledge, (7) Spirit of the fear of the Lord. The Bible doesn’t tell us specifically who/what the seven spirits are, but the first interpretation, that they are the Holy Spirit, seems the most likely. What are the seven spirits of God?
 
May 18, 2010
931
15
18
#12
I don't know where I got Seven lampstands with eyes lol, that leaves me with much future study and contemplation on the meaning.
 

mailmandan

Senior Member
Apr 7, 2014
25,126
13,138
113
58
#13
where I think this interpretation fails is that the Holy Spirit would not be before the throne, He would be on the throne.
So you believe the seven spirits/Spirits of God refer to seven angelic beings? I find it interesting that in some translations the word "spirits" is not capitalized and in other translations "Spirits" is capitalized. :confused:
 
May 18, 2010
931
15
18
#14
Looking into it a little more I don't see how it is the angels of the churches since the angels are who he's writing to. I might agree with you mailmandan to what you posted earlier about a 7-fold Holy Spirit of God, and not Seven separate Holy Spirits.
 

Zmouth

Senior Member
Nov 21, 2012
3,391
134
63
#15
that's a pretty cool gif, but physically speaking, breaking down the continuum of visible light into 7 distinct bands is pretty arbitrary. you may as well have 3, or 6, or eleventy-4, with equal justification.



why should the invisible God be confined to human-eye visible spectra anyway?

Look on the other edge are the seven Spirits of God.

However, those seven within which form the visible white light, without form the invisible light that covers the heaven above.
However, in John 4:24, since God is a Spirit. So what do you think the seven Spirits of Spirit would signify?
Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.James 1:17 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen. 1 Tim 6:16








 

Zmouth

Senior Member
Nov 21, 2012
3,391
134
63
#16
I don't know where I got Seven lampstands with eyes lol, that leaves me with much future study and contemplation on the meaning.
Think you might be associating the seven lampstands with the seven candlesticks in Rev 2:1
 

posthuman

Senior Member
Jul 31, 2013
36,825
13,186
113
#17

Look on the other edge are the seven Spirits of God.

However, those seven within which form the visible white light, without form the invisible light that covers the heaven above.

which 7?

spectrum-310832-5040x1050.jpg

when i fiddle with photographs, i have 3 colors - RGB or CMYK - i don't need 7 colors to mix to reproduce any tint of light. maybe you can call it 5, if you add black and white.

when i paint, i only need 3 colors of pigment, not 7. red, blue and yellow. every orange can be made from combination of red and yellow. every green from blue and yellow. every violet, every indigo, from red and blue. you've got an argument to call it 5, adding black and white.

ken?

7 bands of visible light is arbitrary. you chose 7 because you wanted to see 7. maybe i like the number 16. i can just as easily break up visible light into 16 bands and give them all names. that's all.


However, in John 4:24, since God is a Spirit. So what do you think the seven Spirits of Spirit would signify?

i don't know. is color spirit? wavelength? i don't think it is.
angstroms are probably not the right measure with which to quantify the Father of lights.

the numerological significance of 7 as "perfect" and/or "complete" is more palatable to me than tint.

 

valiant

Senior Member
Mar 22, 2015
8,025
124
63
#18
Looking into it a little more I don't see how it is the angels of the churches since the angels are who he's writing to. I might agree with you mailmandan to what you posted earlier about a 7-fold Holy Spirit of God, and not Seven separate Holy Spirits.
they are not the angels of the seven churches but the elect angels of 1 Thess 5.21
 

valiant

Senior Member
Mar 22, 2015
8,025
124
63
#19
they are not the angels of the seven churches but the elect angels of 1 Thess 5.21
Correction the elect angels of 1 Timothy 5.21 which may be the seven angels who have the seven trumpets
 
Last edited: