How do I Respond to Someone Claiming Doctrine is not Important?
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This is so humanly counter-intuitive. . .
We think that we should know Scripture is the will of God in order to obey it.
But Jesus says the opposite--we must obey it in order to know it is the will of God.
To quote one of my favorite divines:
"all the valued learning of this world is confounded, baffled, and eclipsed, by the Christian revelation and the glorious triumphs of the cross."
We think that we should know Scripture is the will of God in order to obey it.
But Jesus says the opposite--we must obey it in order to know it is the will of God.
To quote one of my favorite divines:
"all the valued learning of this world is confounded, baffled, and eclipsed, by the Christian revelation and the glorious triumphs of the cross."
W
From God's point of view, who has known the end from the beginning, predestination does exist. The predestination is the result of knowing every choice we will make throughout our lives (just a clarification so as not to start an argument - I am not saying that we are justified by works!). He has known who would love and follow Him before He made them and sets up circumstances in our lives to teach and discipline us. (Prune us as we grow like branches on a vine to make us more fruitful)
However, for those us of bound by time and with a will of our own, we still must live and choose daily that we will serve and follow Him and submit to His Spirit to remain in the faith. We can not say "look, that man is surely predestined. or he is not predestined" because we do not know such things.
However, for those us of bound by time and with a will of our own, we still must live and choose daily that we will serve and follow Him and submit to His Spirit to remain in the faith. We can not say "look, that man is surely predestined. or he is not predestined" because we do not know such things.
got twisted up there.
yahshua did not say the opposite. he said if anyone is WILLING to obey yahweh completely, yahweh will reveal the truth about all things to him. no man can even desire yahweh unless it is granted from the father in heaven, and obedience follows yahweh's granting all that is needed, else there is no obedience.
and again, not we should know Scripture in order to obey it, as yahshua told the disciples they had already failed if they thought they could obey Scripture to be saved,
but rather if the disciples trust and rely on yahweh their father in heaven to accomplish their salvation and everything related to salvation now and in the world to come,
then it is as good as accomplished. (and must in any and all cases/persons be revealed by yahweh or else it is not known at all).
yahshua did not say the opposite. he said if anyone is WILLING to obey yahweh completely, yahweh will reveal the truth about all things to him. no man can even desire yahweh unless it is granted from the father in heaven, and obedience follows yahweh's granting all that is needed, else there is no obedience.
and again, not we should know Scripture in order to obey it, as yahshua told the disciples they had already failed if they thought they could obey Scripture to be saved,
but rather if the disciples trust and rely on yahweh their father in heaven to accomplish their salvation and everything related to salvation now and in the world to come,
then it is as good as accomplished. (and must in any and all cases/persons be revealed by yahweh or else it is not known at all).
J
Just curious, of you sacred names guys, is there some special mojo that such as Lord, God or Jesus Christ lacks? And if there is any sacred, special mojo, that is all wrong in the likes of Greek Bible manuscripts, needing your backwardation, why don't you even bother to use a capital letter to begin HIS sacred name?
