Catholic Heresy (for the record)

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mattp0625

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RCC does not adopt sola Scriptura
Only scripture itself is not even on the bible
 
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I see that mattp0625 is still attacking God's True Church. When will you understand mattp625 that you are attacking God? When will your eyes be opened to the Truth that God wants you to have?

You cannot win in your battle against His True Children mattp0625!

Also i see that mattp0625 refuses to bring forth the proof needed in the Scriptures that proves that God said Mary was without sin! That because there are no Scriptures in the Bible where God says Mary was without sin!

Since it is not in the Bible proves the Catholic Doctrine of Mary being sinless is a false Doctrine and is a Doctrine not from God! Since its not a Doctrine from God proves that the Catholic Church today is a Cult! A Cult that Worships Mary AS A God!

I have just proved to the World that mattp0625 is NOT a Child of God but is a child of his god Satan. Therefore everything you say and teach mattp0625 is from Satan and we True Children of God need not to listen to anything you have to say for it is very clear you have no Truth in you.

Judas was the same way as you are now mattp0625. He walked with God but in the end he was NOT with God just like you!

Its unfortunate that we have so many people today in our Churches that do not walk with God. People who love to deceive others into following them instead of following God. But be of good cheer for God is not deceived! He knows who His sheep are and who are the raving wolves!

You are not deceiving God mattp0625, He knows what you are doing and in His unlimited Love for you He is allowing you to do what you want. He will not stop you, but He will Judge you when you die and His Judgement is Righteous.
 
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Mary was favoured by God in sin? No
Mary received the Holy Spirit in sin? No
gave birth to sinless jesus in state of sin? No
in heaven in a state of sin? No
Mary was known by God since time began? Yes
God knew she would be the mother of Jesus since time began? Yes he's omnipotent

you can tell jesus his mom was only a vessel in a state of sin. I hope you don't do that
 
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SAVAS

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working backwards, when the father tells his children truth, when the shepherd calls the sheep, they know, they listen, they hear him and no other shepherd, no other father (his set apart, born again ones, born by his will, not the will of man or of the flesh ...)

what's hard about listening to father ? that's what HIS WORD says to do, and he says HIS WORD is not open to interpretation by men (that's how men got and remain deceived).

yes, everyone abiding in the father, in union in the son yahshua, agree fully , and in anything if they do not agree, they remain in prayer until yahweh reveals HIS WORD - not man's way or idea or choice. this is so rare, you've probably never even expected it let alone seen it - and the rcc totally opposes truth in every way, so you'll never see truth or help or hope coming from man/ the rcc especially; and should never expect any good to come from the rcc.

good ("IF") that you already believe the WORD OF GOD is ALL TRUTH. that separates you entirely from the rcc and most of man's religion. your questions and discussions don't belong on this thread which is simply about the absolute HERESY of the rcc practices, doctrines and all about the rcc.

what part of my post , your thinking, or more importantly GOD'S WORD says or implies that you are an untruthful heretic ?
( in truth turning away from all sin and from all self and from all heresy and from everything and everyone that is not from him(which is most of what you know or even all of what you have ever known and trusted though they are unfaithful) )

But hey, no biggy ok?
 

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What were those traditions that the Thessalonians were taught? And can you please supply reasons for your conclusion. This should not take too much of your time, seeing you have studied 2 Thessalonians 2.15.
The traditions Christ gave them. A new way of life, a new Faith through the resurrection.
 

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Sacred Scripture in the making was the tradition he was talking about. He was thinking of what we have in the Gospels, Acts, his letters (already seen as Scripture) and those of Peter and John.



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But Scripture is not a catechism just telling you what to believe. If it was we would study it for say a year, learn it and then drop it as being as dry as bones. We would have a head knowledge, but not a heart knowledge. It is a living book which is used by the Holy Spirit to speak to men's hearts all through their lives. Each of us slowly gains part of the truth, and sometimes it may appear to conflict because none of us have the whole truth. But the Holy Spirit slowly builds up the truth in those who are genuinely open to Him, and gradually they converge.
Ok. Wow. That explains the mass confusion (or perceived confusion, from what your saying) in the way of life in Sola found in America these days.

"Each of us slowly gains part of the truth, and sometimes it may appear to conflict because none of us have the whole truth. But the Holy Spirit slowly builds up the truth in those who are genuinely open to Him, and gradually they converge."

Is this found in Sacred Scripture? Ive never heard of this method of Truth by the Holy Spirit.
 
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Ok. Wow. That explains the mass confusion (or perceived confusion, from what your saying) in the way of life in Sola found in America these days.

"Each of us slowly gains part of the truth, and sometimes it may appear to conflict because none of us have the whole truth. But the Holy Spirit slowly builds up the truth in those who are genuinely open to Him, and gradually they converge."

Is this found in Sacred Scripture? Ive never heard of this method of Truth by the Holy Spirit.
If you are questioning if the Holy Spirit leads us into all truth, here is the scripture. Not sure about the converging part, but when the church listens to the Holy Spirit, He will not contradict Himself between individuals. When the church listens to other spirits, we can indeed have divisions and confusion.

John 5:5-15 NKJV
[SUP]5 [/SUP]“But now I go away to Him who sent Me, and none of you asks Me, ‘Where are You going?’ [SUP]6 [/SUP]But because I have said these things to you, sorrow has filled your heart. [SUP]7 [/SUP]Nevertheless I tell you the truth. It is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I depart, I will send Him to you. [SUP]8 [/SUP]And when He has come, He will convict the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: [SUP]9 [/SUP]of sin, because they do not believe in Me; [SUP]10 [/SUP]of righteousness, because I go to My Father and you see Me no more; [SUP]11 [/SUP]of judgment, because the ruler of this world is judged.

[SUP]12 [/SUP]“I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. [SUP]13 [/SUP]However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come. [SUP]14 [/SUP]He will glorify Me, for He will take of what is Mine and declare it to you. [SUP]15 [/SUP]All things that the Father has are Mine. Therefore I said that He will take of Mine and declare it to you.[SUP][c][/SUP]
 
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Mary was favored by God in sin? YES! God still Loves us even when we are SINNING!

Mary received the Holy Spirit in sin? YES!

Gave birth to sinless Jesus in state of sin? YES!

In heaven in a state of sin? Mary is in the grave, Mary is NOT in Heaven!

Mary was known by God since time began? Yes

God knew she would be the mother of Jesus since time began? Yes he's omnipotent

God's Love for us is NOT based on our being SINLESS!

And YES we DO receive the Holy Spirit while STILL SINNERS! Receiving the Holy Spirit IS NOT BASED ON BEING SINLESS!
Mary IS IN THE GRAVE! When we die we sleep! Mary was never taken up to Heaven! No where in the Scriptures does the Holy Spirit say Mary was taken up in Heaven!

Salvation is received by Faith and Grace, NOT BE BEING SINLESS!

Its interesting that mattp0625 ignores what God teaches in the Scriptures to preach what he wants people to believe and not what the Holy Spirit says.
 
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yahshua told his own disciples all this.

most of his disciples walked away from him because HIS WORD was too hard for them .....

peter and the others remained because they had been shown mercy and revelation from the father in heaven.

so, if you want to continue in the world as friend of the world or of the demonic heresy, you don't walk with yahshua.

if you want to walk with yahshua, in union in yahweh with his children,
you will have to give up everything the same as yahshua says to all his own disciples.

rcc heresy catholics are not willing to trust yahweh or HIS WORD --- they rely on man/ demons/ man's traditions and they willingly worship and serve demons with all their heart and souls and minds.... and thus remain lost,

unless yahweh grants them mercy to be set free from their sin.

not just big ---- life or death; you have chosen..... or have you? (the rcc has chosen death)


( in truth turning away from all sin and from all self and from all heresy and from everything and everyone that is not from him(which is most of what you know or even all of what you have ever known and trusted though they are unfaithful) )

But hey, no biggy ok?
 
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They are all one spirit? Among all the thousands of sects, please define the non-essential doctrines they don't need to have in common. Please use the bible as your source.
Non-essential doctrines would be those not relating to the orthodox doctrine of historic Christianity as stated in the historic creeds:
the inspiration of all Scripture,
the deity of Christ,
the virgin birth and his miracles,
his penal atonement,
his resurrection,
his return.
 
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So very true Jeff_56 and yet so very sad that the Catholics are willing to walk into the Lake of Fire just to Worship Mary AS THEIR God.
 
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Can someone please give me the method to practicing Sola please? I want to give this doctrine a shot. How do I do it? I'm Eastern Orthodox and this type of practice is very foreign to me. Thanks
You study and learn the Scriptures to know what is Christian doctrine.
 
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Not a huge fan of the term essential and non-essential doctrines. If God gives us a doctrine it's essential.

It reminds me of this coined phrase that is not biblical, attributed to Augustine and Wesley: "In essentials, unity; in non-essentials, liberty; in all things charity."

ALL doctrine in all 66 books is essential.

2 Timothy 3:10-17 NKJV
The Man of God and the Word of God

[SUP]10 [/SUP]But you have carefully followed my doctrine, manner of life, purpose, faith, longsuffering, love, perseverance, [SUP]11 [/SUP]persecutions, afflictions, which happened to me at Antioch, at Iconium, at Lystra—what persecutions I endured. And out of them all the Lord delivered me. [SUP]12 [/SUP]Yes, and all who desire to live godly in Christ Jesus will suffer persecution. [SUP]13 [/SUP]But evil men and impostors will grow worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived. [SUP]14 [/SUP]But you must continue in the things which you have learned and been assured of, knowing from whom you have learned them, [SUP]15 [/SUP]and that from childhood you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
[SUP]16 [/SUP]All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, [SUP]17 [/SUP]that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.
 
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When did Christ say: Thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will establish 10,000 denominations ? Or that the church is only a spiritual concept? Have a read of Eph 1:22-23. Jesus states the church is his body. He doesn't have 10,000 bodies. Eph 2:16 indicates He has one body
Who said many denominations holding to doctrine stated in the historic creeds means more than one body of Christ?
Scripture says no such thing.
 
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The Protestant will say all the sects agree on the essentials. Next ask what chapter of the bible defines the non-essential doctrines. Remember- the bible is their only authority.
They are defined by the historic creeds presenting apostolic teaching.
 
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So very true Jeff_56 and yet so very sad that the Catholics are willing to walk into the Lake of Fire just to Worship Mary AS THEIR God.
actually, as it is written in GOD'S WORD, they are actively willing to put to death the true believers all the while
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they are putting us to death

they actually truly think that they are doing GOD a favor.... and that they may even be rewarded for it !!!

but they do not think they are headed for the lake of fire (where their father is going absolutely),

no, they think and when they get to the judgment throne are SHNOPCKED TO FIND OUT that they must
depart from JESUS because HE NEVER KNEW THEM..... they are so deceived, they had no idea they've been deceived
because their deeds continued to be evil and they chose to love the darkness instead of coming to the light to be helped or saved at all.

yahweh has given them over to believe their own delusions....
 
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Mattp0625, listen to what the Holy Spirit has to say in the Bible. The Truth is in the Bible. There are no Truths in the World because the World is ruled by Satan.

Keep on the path you are on and you will miss out on entering into Heaven. Is your Pride so great that you are willing to walk into the Lake of Fire?

Its not about the Catholic Church, its not about what they teach. Its all about accepting Salvation and receiving the Indwelling of the Holy Spirit who will teach you all the Truths from God.

Romans 5:5
[SUP]5 [/SUP] Now hope does not disappoint, because the love of God has been poured out in our hearts by the Holy Spirit who was given to us.

1 Corinthians 2:10-14
[SUP]10 [/SUP] But God has revealed them to us through His Spirit. For the Spirit searches all things, yes, the deep things of God.
[SUP]11 [/SUP] For what man knows the things of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him? Even so no one knows the things of God except the Spirit of God.
[SUP]12 [/SUP] Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might know the things that have been freely given to us by God.
[SUP]13 [/SUP] These things we also speak, not in words which man's wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
[SUP]14 [/SUP] But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.


1 Peter 1:12
[SUP]12 [/SUP] To them it was revealed that, not to themselves, but to us they were ministering the things which now have been reported to you through those who have preached the gospel to you by the Holy Spirit sent from heaven--things which angels desire to look into.

The Truth, the Gospel is brought and taught to US by the Holy Spirit! We receive no truth from men, Its only from the Holy Spirit we receive the precious Truth that we are trying to share with you mattp0625.
 
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mattp0625

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They are defined by the historic creeds presenting apostolic teaching.

Sola Scriptura. List of non essential scriptures using the bible, please No dancing.
chapter and verse