Catholic Heresy (for the record)

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valiant said:
you are pathetic
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it's sad, but they're so desperate and depend on the false doctrines for their 'comfort' and for the approval of friends, family and false priests.

this is entirely different from martin luther, charles chiniquoy, madam guyon, joan of arc,

and of course JESUS and JESUS' followers who give up the 'comfort' and 'approval' of the flesh

in order to receive TRUTH from ABBA and HIS REWARDS.

i.e even a catholic may receive FREELY THE GIFTS OF YAHWEH(GOD), but to do so, theyhave to give

up all they held onto before .... and like the ones who crucify jesus daily with their abominable practices,

they don't want to give up what is false (their comfort), to receive eternal life even from the SAVIOR JESUS!
 
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Jeff_56 said:
it's sad, but they're so desperate and depend on the false doctrines for their 'comfort' and for the approval of friends, family and false priests.

this is entirely different from martin luther, charles chiniquoy, madam guyon, joan of arc,

and of course JESUS and JESUS' followers who give up the 'comfort' and 'approval' of the flesh

in order to receive TRUTH from ABBA and HIS REWARDS.

i.e even a catholic may receive FREELY THE GIFTS OF YAHWEH(GOD), but to do so, theyhave to give

up all they held onto before .... and like the ones who crucify jesus daily with their abominable practices,

they don't want to give up what is false (their comfort), to receive eternal life even from the SAVIOR JESUS!
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Another ridiculous statement with no basis in fact
 
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MikeHenderson said:
So very True Jeff_56!

There are MANY people today who want their ears tickled by false doctrines from Demons instead of the Truth from God!

They really do not want the Truth, instead their Pride demands that they and only they have the truth that no one else has!

This is the problem with the Catholics. Their PRIDE demands that only they have the Truth. When shown that they have no Truths they feel you are attacking them personally.

Look at Judas. He walked and talked and ate with Jesus Christ every day but yet his PRIDE demanded that he reject Jesus because he thought he had more truth in him than Jesus had. This is the same with the Catholics. Their Pride means more to them then Eternity in Heaven with God!
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Even more ridiculous assumptions!!!
 
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Can anyone explain why the Roman Ritual of Exorcism works? Is the Devil casting out the Demons? I think not
 
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Can anyone explain why the Roman Ritual of Exorcism works? Is the Devil casting out the Demons? I think not
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correct. it doesn't work. the devil makes it look like the demons are cast out, all the while laughing at you.

the devil gets more and more control of you every day. he's had complete control of the pope and the jesuits for almost 2000 years.
 
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Jeff_56 said:
correct. it doesn't work. the devil makes it look like the demons are cast out, all the while laughing at you.

the devil gets more and more control of you every day. he's had complete control of the pope and the jesuits for almost 2000 years.
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This is becoming hilarious!!!! Such misguidance and no real knowledge. of the Church. just lies that we are led by Satan. can't stop laughing
 
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The Church Lady from SNL is alive and well!!!!! Maybe its , ummmm Satan? LOL
 
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ThomistColin said:
Umm...she was Catholic.
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sorry. that won't help you become saved. she will be raised up on judgment day to testify against you because you would not renounce your sin and evil complicity with the service to demons in the heresy and causing other souls to be lost.
 
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sorry. that won't help you become saved. she will be raised up on judgment day to testify against you because you would not renounce your sin and evil complicity with the service to demons in the heresy and causing other souls to be lost.
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This is getting funnier and funnier. maybe yall should spend some time in true worship and repent for tbinking you are God
 
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mwc68 said:
Can anyone explain why the Roman Ritual of Exorcism works? Is the Devil casting out the Demons? I think not
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can you explain how protestant exorcists cast out evil spirits?
 
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RoboOp said:
.....We certainly don't want our site to be dominated by Catholic heresy or whatever heresy or error, and we don't want people to get the impression that we just tolerate all of that.

So for the record, Catholicism is heresy. That's what the admins of this site believe. .....

This is preaching to the choir for most people here. But it regularly happens that we start to accumulate Catholics here who really promote and argue their Catholicism, along with all the heresy.

So for the record, if anyone wants or needs to hear it, we don't agree with Catholic heresy. And yes it is heresy ...that defeats the purpose of Jesus.

I saw my mother-in-law die before my eyes putting her faith in Mary. Days before she died I asked her if Mary can save her and she actually said yes. Then in her dying moments, my father-in-law pushed me in front of her to pray for her as she was dying before our eyes. I simply prayed out loud in front of everyone that she would put her faith in Jesus, and ONLY JESUS. There was protesting in the background "wala na Maria? wala na Maria?", which is Filipino language for "No Mary?? No Marry??". You see how deceived they all are. It is sad. You see how the devil uses that poison to add something to Jesus.

So I hope it's clear what we believe and we hope that we can promote the truth here in love.
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yes, GOD has spoken. HIS WORD IS TRUE. RCC is condemned, and all that go down with it.

there's nothing anyone in heaven or on earth has ever said or can say that will reverse the

damnation of the rcc . it has already been absolutely damned by the BIBLE, and those

who trust or participate in the rcc with complicity are condemned with it.
 
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valiant said:
Is that why you burned her? or was it because she had seen the errors of your church?
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he's blind.. he couldn't see. (not defending him though. there remains no defense for him. the blind follow the blind, and both fall headlong into the pit (willingly) ).

perhaps they all once had a chance to see, healing and salvation offered freely in grace by GOD in heaven through Jesus, and they denied Him and continue to deny Him because the pope is more friendly(deceitfully) to their flesh and their sin(of which they refuse to repent and turn from )....

yes. the strangest story on earth. they could have had life, freely, and they refused Him blatantly.

TODAY, perhaps one will hear HIS(GOD'S.... not the devilish pope) voice, and turn to HIM(the ONE TRUE GOD), to be saved.
 
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Jeff_56 said:
yes, GOD has spoken. HIS WORD IS TRUE. RCC is condemned, and all that go down with it.

there's nothing anyone in heaven or on earth has ever said or can say that will reverse the

damnation of the rcc . it has already been absolutely damned by the BIBLE, and those

who trust or participate in the rcc with complicity are condemned with it.
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Just more lies!!! Quit listening to the preacher stealing your money
 
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mwc68 said:
Just more lies!!! Quit listening to the preacher stealing your money
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how about this for exposure of lies?



Luis Bermejo is a Spanish Jesuit who has taught theology at the Pontifical Athenaeum at Puna, India for the last thirty years. In a recently published book (1992), he makes the following compelling argument in confirmation of Brian Tierney’s historical research:
To my knowledge, nobody seems to have challenged Tierney’s contention that the entire first millenium is entirely silent on papal infallibility and that, therefore, Vatican I’s contention concerning the early roots of the doctrine is difficult to maintain. Practically the only objection of some substance raised against Tierney seems to be his interpretation of the twelfth century decretists: is the future dogma of Vatican I implicitly contained in them? Even after granting for the sake of argument that it is—something that Tierney does not concede in any way—the formidable obstacle of the first millenium remains untouched. In my opinion his critics have fired their guns on a secondary target (the medieval decretists and theologians)leaving the disturbing silence of the first millenium out of consideration. Nobody seems to have been able to adduce any documentary proof to show that this long silence was illusory, that the doctrine was—at least implicitly—already known and held in the early centuries. It is not easy to see how a given doctrine can be maintained to be of apostolic origin when a thousand years of tradition do not echo it in any way (Luis Bermejo, Infallibility on Trial (Westminster: Christian Classics, 1992), pp. 164-165).​
 
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This is what people say about Hannah Whitall Smith.

"A husband-wife team in the early 1870s immediately preceded the early Keswick movement: Robert Pearsall Smith (1827–98) and Hannah Whitall Smith (1832–1911).

Hannah is most famous for her book The Christian’s Secret of a Happy Life. Her book’s essential message is Keswick theology: “entire surrender” or “entire abandonment” (i.e., “let go”) and “absolute faith” (i.e., “let God”).
But what most people don’t know is that she and her husband had anything but “happy” lives. The Smith family experienced a series of sad events, including the following:

  1. At the height of his success as a higher life revivalist, Robert fell doctrinally and morally, nearly destroying the entire Keswick movement.
  2. Robert and Hannah’s deteriorating marriage declined even further. Hannah’s intense feminism and independence, Robert’s manic-depressive nature, and Robert’s persistence in unrepentant adultery all contributed to a very unhappy marriage.
  3. Robert apostatized and became an agnostic.
  4. Hannah apostatized. She lost interest in the higher life, rejoined the Quakers in 1886, and embraced universalism and religious pluralism."

Why Cloud9 are you listening to people who are not True Christians? At least I listen to what the Holy Spirit says in the Bible, can you say the same thing Cloud9? No you cannot. Not while teaching lies and deceiving people into following Satan instead of God.

Repent Cloud9 and accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior before its too late.
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I have been defending the Gospel on the frontline for 8 years.

A Christian is a follower of Jesus and not required to believe in hell doctrine.

You can quote scripture all day long....the secrets are revealed in the ancient languages and in a detailed historical analysis.

Here is a start

Aion/ Aionios

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valiant said:
I prefer to go with Augustine !!! Seemingly he shared my prejudices.
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I prefer what makes logical sense, and neither your false distiction petra/petros nor your assertion of sola scriptura can be justified logically, historically or biblically - all clutching at straws to avoid the obvious.

So now you know the language of the holy land (you did not know this before) clear in acts 1:19 as Aramaic from the place you trust which is scripture, I presume you will now recant your version and accept as Luther and Calvin did that Peter is the rock. And special, and the petra /petros distinction was just a creative intepretation of protestants to avoid the blindingly obvious!

As for Augustine, he makes his views clear on succession in his letter to Generosus about donatists.

"2. For if the lineal succession of bishops is to be taken into account, with how much more certainty and benefit to the Church do we reckon back till we reach Peter himself, to whom, as bearing in a figure the whole Church, the Lord said: Upon this rock will I build my Church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it! Matthew 16:18 The successor of Peter was Linus, and his successors in unbroken continuity were these:— Clement, Anacletus, Evaristus, Alexander, Sixtus, Telesphorus, Iginus, Anicetus, Pius, Soter, Eleutherius, Victor, Zephirinus, Calixtus, Urbanus, Pontianus, Antherus, Fabianus, Cornelius, Lucius, Stephanus, Xystus, Dionysius, Felix, Eutychianus, Gaius, Marcellinus, Marcellus, Eusebius, Miltiades, Sylvester, Marcus, Julius, Liberius, Damasus, and Siricius, whose successor is the present Bishop Anastasius

Clearly supporting my view and that of RCC


But then irenaus against heresies 3 says exactly the same, and many other ECF agree.
You make the same logical error with ECF you do with sola scriptura. That those who do not say something is true, can therefore be assumed to say it was false.

Which is the A AND B is not the same as NOT A and NOT B falacy.Enrol on a course of logic valiant. All the ECF breathed...you cannot assume they do not because they do not say so . They were long on shouting down heresy, strange they do not all shout down the office of the papacy when it so clearly existed, if they thought it was heresy. WHy are they silent on that?

Study logic and history valiant - stop superimposing your "wish" on what is not actually there.
 
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