Vigilant_Warrior,
You last posted this article about boxing injuries:
AANS - Sports-related Head Injury
1. It lists the TOP 20 SPORTS CAUSING BRAIN INJURIES...
BOXING IS NOT EVEN ON THE TOP 20 LIST!
Cherry picking data? Tired? Trying to catch a movie instead of doing proper debate on silly, pointless topics?
: )
2. These are the sports LISTED with the most brain injuries.
Cycling: 85,389
Football: 46,948
Baseball and Softball: 38,394
Basketball: 34,692
Water Sports (Diving, Scuba Diving, Surfing, Swimming, Water Polo, Water Skiing, Water Tubing): 28,716
Powered Recreational Vehicles (ATVs, Dune Buggies, Go-Carts, Mini bikes, Off-road): 26,606
Soccer: 24,184
Skateboards/Scooters: 23,114
Fitness/Exercise/Health Club: 18,012
Winter Sports (Skiing, Sledding, Snowboarding, Snowmobiling): 16,948
Horseback Riding: 14,466
Gymnastics/Dance/Cheerleading: 10,223
Golf: 10,035
Hockey: 8,145
Other Ball Sports and Balls, Unspecified: 6,883
Trampolines: 5,919
Rugby/Lacrosse: 5,794
Roller and Inline Skating: 3,320
Ice Skating: 4,608
NO BOXING LISTED HERE
3. When the article eventually mentions Boxing, it gives VIRTUALLY no specific data.
"boxers can suffer permanent brain damage."
- This states boxing "can" cause brain damage, not that it actually "does at any particular frequency".
- Remember, boxing isn't even listed in the top 20 sports causing brain damage!
- I'm pretty sure falling off the sofa can also cause brain damage.
"from January of 1960 to August of 2011, there were 488 boxing-related deaths."
- Where is the actual document? The link given doesn't even go to a document!
- Without a document we have to call "bogus".
- If there's a real document, who collected that data?
- If there's a real document, Who verified that data?
- If there's a real document, then 488 Boxing related deaths from WHERE?
- If these deaths ever occurred, then are these deaths in an actual ring with headgear and a referee,
or in somebody's basement in Guatamala?
"There are boxers with minimal involvement and those that are so severely affected that they require institutional care."
- This does NOT ACTUALLY SAY ANYTHING!
- There are no numbers, no statistics, no data of any kind.
- There are CHEERLEADERS that were injured and need institutional care...
without NUMBERS and FACTS this sentence about boxing means nothing.
4. What are my favorite words and phrases in this article?
My favorite WORDS in this article:
can, some, most, severely
None of these words mean anything; they aren’t numbers, and they aren’t data.
It's meaningless.
My favorite PHRASE in this article:
recent studies have shown
These are “recent studies” with no documentation, no name, no research group, no link... really.
There are few actual numbers about boxing injuries in this article, and when there IS a number, there is no clear documentation, lots of hyperbole, and just MORE UNANSWERED QUESTIONS.
Vigilant_Warrior,
I'm sure you're a great guy,
but your forte doesn't seem to be researching boxing injuries.
No big deal.
It's not my forte either.
I'm sure it's just my imagination, or maybe my bad eyesight, but everything you posted seemed to have an odd appearance of being cherry picked.
To get down to the part of the article covering boxing...
you first had to SKIP OVER the ENTIRE SECTION showing that MOST BRAIN INJURIES ACTUALLY OCCUR in OTHER SPORTS!
I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and just assume you were tired, or maybe distracted.
I'm sure you're a good guy, and we don't need to be arguing forever about something as silly as boxing.
I don't have any more time to dig through these articles,
and I'm sure you don't have time to keep posting them.
I'm going to call it a day.
Post whatever you need to post on this topic,
but this is taking up way too much time...
and I'm sure you feel the same.
It's been fun.
God Bless,
Max