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Elysian
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The statue of liberty is a pagan goddess so to speak,can't remember which one but it is certain and common knowledge.
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Femalelamb
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Good documentaries for insight on such things and others is Megiddo as well as Megiddo II. Of course check facts by the Word. For example they claim if a prophet ever makes a mistake do not accept Him, but that is not what the Bible says. It merely says. Do not accept the prophecy... As well as it says "I want that all would prophecy." And "we prophecy in part." Now we are to watch out for false prophets and teachers... Like the ones in these documentaries that twist the Word. And deny the Bibles truths. As a matter of fact I think I will post. This on my blog for others.
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Elysian
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Yes it's all a mish mash of Paganism. Molech is very popular and is depicted by the Owl which is widely brandished today as the emblem on the back of Mazda motor vehicles,Ford has the all seeing eye (blue oval),Chrysler has the winged disk of Horus on the rear of most vehicles, Mercedes it's fancy broken crucifix emblem, Audi has it's 666 emblem as does Toyota and the list just goes on and on,my dishwasher and clothes washer both have Whirlpool all seeing eye emblems.The bad guys took over a long time ago while everyone was asleep,especially the Churches.If you ever wondered there was something wrong with the world but could never quiet put your finger on it,well this is the cause and the bible told us about this problem eons ago in the book of revelation and through the prophets.
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RachelP03
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I could honestly talk for hours on the Illuminati. Yes I believe they exist and I don't believe its this small group. I believe its a lot of the leaders of the whole world. I don't even know quite how to start, but to make it short is Satan is powerful....and he likes to use people to bring people farther from the Lord. Whatever I read I try and line up with the Bible and the end of times. I hate any form of government because at the end day we don't have a voice and our voting does not matter. They all have one plan and that's to become ONE NATION, ONE WORLD ORDER! If you know the Bible and the end of times, it clearly talks about becoming one and having one form of currency, which will be the mark of the beast and in which will control us and have power over us, They are actually slowly testing people in Switzerland to have it. From what I have gathered it could possibly be called the RFID chip.
I think a lot of Christian think its going to be this known 666 stamp across your forehead, thing on your hand obvisous, but not! THey are going to MILK this....they are going to sell it like its the new flavor of ice cream and as Christian we need to be strong and know and watch for signs.
So where does the Illuminati come from? Well I think it plays into a lot.....lets use famous people for example and what they call their "puppets". IF you truly looked at the past 50 years, look at how much Christians actually accept and take it and accept now. Cuss words, gays, sex before marriage and crap is all over television and we just look past it like nothing and if you truly on a daily basis absorb this in, you get relaxed and it dosent bother you. Same with music, same with moral and values and your friend. I have to purposely cut things off or be an old lady and just listen to sermons or Christian music and not have a life, if my friends are doing something I disagree with, but in the end, Im at peace and my walk with the Lord is that much stronger.
I have been studying Illuminati for years and theres so much knowledge that I honestly have that is hard to even explain. I don't believe every single thing I read, but im open to seeing the way things are being ran or the purpose. Its all evil!! I look at Hollywood and I see how messed up majority of the famous are and how money and fame has rotted their brains and values.
Satan is smart and people will sell their souls for worldly things. I think what upsets me more is believers and how they don't care to learn or they just brush things off. Im a stand firm purpose, I always thought I would die as a martyr. I refuse to back down from truth, people can hate me, they can walk out of my life, but Christ and His word will always be first!
I think a lot of Christian think its going to be this known 666 stamp across your forehead, thing on your hand obvisous, but not! THey are going to MILK this....they are going to sell it like its the new flavor of ice cream and as Christian we need to be strong and know and watch for signs.
So where does the Illuminati come from? Well I think it plays into a lot.....lets use famous people for example and what they call their "puppets". IF you truly looked at the past 50 years, look at how much Christians actually accept and take it and accept now. Cuss words, gays, sex before marriage and crap is all over television and we just look past it like nothing and if you truly on a daily basis absorb this in, you get relaxed and it dosent bother you. Same with music, same with moral and values and your friend. I have to purposely cut things off or be an old lady and just listen to sermons or Christian music and not have a life, if my friends are doing something I disagree with, but in the end, Im at peace and my walk with the Lord is that much stronger.
I have been studying Illuminati for years and theres so much knowledge that I honestly have that is hard to even explain. I don't believe every single thing I read, but im open to seeing the way things are being ran or the purpose. Its all evil!! I look at Hollywood and I see how messed up majority of the famous are and how money and fame has rotted their brains and values.
Satan is smart and people will sell their souls for worldly things. I think what upsets me more is believers and how they don't care to learn or they just brush things off. Im a stand firm purpose, I always thought I would die as a martyr. I refuse to back down from truth, people can hate me, they can walk out of my life, but Christ and His word will always be first!
I agree with your post, and I appreciate your opinion as I'm sure others do as well, especially the part about dying for God.. That's beautiful, I'm sure He wants us to have happy lives and to live more abundantly in Him, so don't worry about all that, just live for Christ... That's awesome.. But as for hating governments, I tussled with that as well, until the Holy Scriptures said this, in a few places, here's one from the New Testament ..
1 Peter 2:13 - 2:17
13 Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme;
14 Or unto governors, as unto them that are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers, and for the praise of them that do well.15 For so is the will of God, that with well doing ye may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men:
16 As free, and not using [your] liberty for a cloke of maliciousness, but as the servants of God.
17 Honour all [men]. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honour the king.
So just fight the good fight, and let Him use you at His will... God bless sis,
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RachelP03
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Thank you!!!
The Bible does also say we need to pray for out government in which I lack, because I am disgusted with them, lol. I never said I was perfect!!! lol
Also the Bible states to always support Israel, for its Gods chosen country and Im pretty sure Obama does not and so its hard to back up or support people above us who are going against God and what I feel is doing evils work!
But thank you replying!
Thank you!!!
The Bible does also say we need to pray for out government in which I lack, because I am disgusted with them, lol. I never said I was perfect!!! lol
Also the Bible states to always support Israel, for its Gods chosen country and Im pretty sure Obama does not and so its hard to back up or support people above us who are going against God and what I feel is doing evils work!
But thank you replying!
Don't worry sis, God uses them all to fulfill his Word and Will.
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Elysian
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I myself have studied this evil for many years.I remember researching the Jehovah witnesses and that was what first led me to the existence of all this evil.
As William Cooper once said ''it would take months to explain all of this to a layman'' however I have found one of the best ways to start (and this is also a good way to introduce the gospel) is through 911.
Where does the Illuminati come from? I think they have always been around,just not using that name.Satan tempted Jesus out in the desert and his offer was rejected maybe he made that offer to someone else,someone less wise than Jesus Christ?
As William Cooper once said ''it would take months to explain all of this to a layman'' however I have found one of the best ways to start (and this is also a good way to introduce the gospel) is through 911.
Where does the Illuminati come from? I think they have always been around,just not using that name.Satan tempted Jesus out in the desert and his offer was rejected maybe he made that offer to someone else,someone less wise than Jesus Christ?
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RachelBibleStudent
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actually the bible does not teach this anywhere...
references to 'the nations' as separate entities continues all the way to the end of revelation...so there is no 'one world order' global government in scripture...
the bible also does not mention a unified currency...what it -does- say is that people will not be able to buy or sell without the 'mark of the beast'...this does not require a unified global currency...
actually the bible indicates that the mark of the beast -will- be a sign of obvious rebellion...and not some kind of diabolical trick... in revelation when the bowls of God's wrath are being poured out...the people in the beast's kingdom are openly cursing God...not saying 'oops'...
this merely proves that the love of money is the root of all kinds of evil and that pride goes before a fall...it doesn't even remotely establish the existence of any supposed 'illuminati'...people are perfectly capable of behaving badly -without- a vast international conspiracy...
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RachelBibleStudent
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william cooper believed that president kennedy was assassinated by someone using a weapon that came from space aliens...he also believed that eisenhower made a treaty with space aliens... 'it would take months' to list all of the examples that show him to be a completely non credible source on anything...
and 9/11 conspiracy theories are -not- a good way to introduce the gospel...these and other conspiracy theories are designed to lead people -away- from christ and into deeper and deeper deceptions...after all there is a reason why the 'zeitgeist' movie that devotes so much time to 9/11 conspiracy theories begins with the claim that jesus christ never existed...all conspiracy theories are just iterations of the same antichristian worldview...
First thirty seconds of this shows you don't have all the facts " again " ....
[video=youtube;w-uTEIHqTuk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-uTEIHqTuk[/video]
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RachelBibleStudent
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i am aware that cooper changed his mind about that...but you miss the point...he bought into the 'illuminati' nonsense at around the same time he bought into the nonsense about space aliens...neither claim was the product of an informed or rational or stable mind... and likewise for the hundreds of other crazy claims he made...and for conspiracy heresy in general...
It makes me laugh when people claim to know what the Free Masons/Illuminati are. There are a lot more things than youtube videos or wikipedia files. Secret organizations stay secret for a reason. If we told you everything, we wouldn't be secret now would we lol.
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GaryA
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* Kicks back and waits for the conversation between RachelBibleStudent and BillyTheKid to ensue... * 
"This should get real interesting..."
"This should get real interesting..."
There will be no conversation about it. Unless you are a member, you have no clue what it is about.
Good try, Elijah. And you've certainly established an interesting thread.
Heaps of opinions.
Precious little real info or reason or evidence though.
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GaryA
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What I said in my last post is based on the well-known stated opinions of RachelBibleStudent [ "in effect" ( I am not quoting her verbatim ) ] that the Illuminati does not exist and that Freemasons are nothing more than [ simply ] a private men's club...
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GaryA
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BTW -- nice of you to declare [ that you are both ? ] Freemason and Illuminati -- and, insinuate that there is a close connection between the two --- not that I will or should believe what you say just because you say it - you may not be either, for all I know; however, the way you stated it is interesting, nonetheless...
