Election Week For the Brits!

[AgeofKnowledge]

Well said. The real problem; however, is that most British voters are living in denial as to the scope and depth of the problems facing their country and do not realize that time is no longer on their side. The same is true with much of Europe and the U.S.. Western Civilization is in steep and rapid decline.

Actually UKIP did very well on a vote for vote basis but our voting system suggested otherwise: View attachment 114614

 

[Pumicestone]

Wow - better Eye Candy than anything on the Australian parliamentary benches.
And she's smart as well ???




SMACK !

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

Marion Marechal-Le Pen is the best thing to come out of France since the 'Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen' in 1789.

Wow - better Eye Candy than anything on the Australian parliamentary benches.
And she's smart as well ???




SMACK !

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

Article V - The law has the right to forbid only actions harmful to society.

^ Those who choose to practice Islam, homosexuality, etc... are engaging in actions harmful to Western societies (not to mention the species).

 

[Jimminy]

Article V - The law has the right to forbid only actions harmful to society.

^ Those who choose to practice Islam, homosexuality, etc... are engaging in actions harmful to Western societies (not to mention the species).

I think people who are as right-wing fascist as you seem to be by virtue of this comment do more harm to society than say, Mohammed down the street who runs the kebab shop, who patiently serves a lot of drunk teenagers every Saturday night, while being hurled abuse by people as closed-minded as you.

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

Oh calm down jiminy, I don't drink alcohol nor patron bars and can substantiate every serious assertion that I make (unlike those drunks kids or yourself).

Like Ronald Regan once famously said, I didn't leave the Democrat party the Democrat party left me. Hurling names like "right-wing fascist" at me is nothing more than a fallacious exercise in ad hominem which detracts from the arguments rooted in actual problems that resulted in my assertions in the first place. If you had a little more sense about you, this would be plain to you.

I think people who are as right-wing fascist as you seem to be by virtue of this comment do more harm to society than say, Mohammed down the street who runs the kebab shop, who patiently serves a lot of drunk teenagers every Saturday night, while being hurled abuse by people as closed-minded as you.

 

[Jimminy]

Oh calm down jiminy, I don't drink alcohol nor patron bars and can substantiate every serious assertion that I make (unlike those drunks kids or yourself).

Like Ronald Regan once famously said, I didn't leave the Democrat party the Democrat party left me. Hurling names like "right-wing fascist" at me is nothing more than a fallacious exercise in ad hominem which detracts from the arguments rooted in actual problems that resulted in my assertions in the first place. If you had a little more sense about you, this would be plain to you.

You said Muslims, intrinsically, by practicing Islam, are a detriment to Western Society, and of course, you clearly consider them blind of your God. You oppose their religion, their title, their practice entirely.

"Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: 'by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

Allow me to paraphrase:

""I believe I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator; that by defending these Western lands against the Muslim, I am doing God's work"
AgeOfKnowledge
ChristianChat, May 2015

Fascism is discriminatory (tick), right-wing (tick), nationalistic (tick) and oppressive upon certain religious or cultural groups (tick). You're most plainly a fascist.

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

Actually many Muslims and the Nazis got along quite well in the 20th century and formed cooperative relationships. Since you like to quote Hitler, here's one for you:

"It’s been our misfortune to have the wrong religion," Hitler complained to his pet architect Albert Speer. "Why did it have to be Christianity, with its meekness and flabbiness?" This, Hitler argued, was "much more suited to the Germanic temperament than the Jewish filth and priestly twaddle of Christianity."

But you did get the first part of my statement right Jimminy. Islam, and the Muslims who practice it, are a detriment to Western Civilization. True.

The rest you just concocted and flung at me. I never said Muslims were "blind of your God." You said that, not me. And, I disagree with the assertion you posit in which every Muslim is "blind of your God." In fact, I believe a great many Muslims knowingly and willfully reject the true knowledge of God found in the Christian worldview.

And, of course, it's infantile to quote Adolf Hitler for the purpose of this discussion. How about I quote Joseph Stalin and then equate you with him. Is Joseph Stalin one accurate source and portrayal of the left? Yes, he is. But is Stalin an accurate portrayal of your own leftist views? No, he's not. So it's erroneous to say that he is and infantile to even engage in the behavior.

If you really want to learn what Adolph Hitler (whom I detest along with Stalin) believed, CBN gave an accurate presentation of that wicked man here: Was Adolf Hitler a Christian? - a report on How Hitler Viewed God - The 700 Club | CBN.com

And though I don't have a problem with that quote you've assigned to me, it is unsourced so please provide the link to it so that we can view it in context.

The bottom line here is that you need to grow up and cease engaging in fallacious tactics or your integrity and credibility here are going to begin to suffer.

I strongly suggest that you begin to address and substantiate your erroneous argument, at some point, that orthodox Islamic epistemology and those who adhere to it pose no material threat to Western Civilization which is an argument that I can and have many times dismantled and refuted.

You said Muslims, intrinsically, by practicing Islam, are a detriment to Western Society, and of course, you clearly consider them blind of your God. You oppose their religion, their title, their practice entirely.

"Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: 'by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."
-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

Allow me to paraphrase:

""I believe I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator; that by defending these Western lands against the Muslim, I am doing God's work"
AgeOfKnowledge
ChristianChat, May 2015

Fascism is discriminatory (tick), right-wing (tick), nationalistic (tick) and oppressive upon certain religious or cultural groups (tick). You're most plainly a fascist.

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

Oh, and I just noticed jimmyiny that you may have intentionally also falsely inferred that I'm an anti-Semite in the course of all that ad hominem you directed against me.

So, for the record: I am NOT an anti-Semite! I highly value my personal Jewish friends (some of whom are on the left) and fully support conservative Jewish authors, analysts, and media pundits whom have and continue to make tremendous contributions to our societies and world Also, I support the continuing existence of the state of Israel and the West maintaining close ties with and assisting in the protection of that country.

^ You can quote that in the future jimmy "the flinger of ad hominem" iny in the future (though you never will because it doesn't assist you in tearing me down a practice you've almost solely engaged in because obviously you can't win an argument).

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

I've reported you to the moderators jimmyiny for your maligned personal attack in which you compared me to Adolph Hitler and called me a fascist which is wholly false and uncalled for.

 

[Pumicestone]

America's best economists came together and produced the best health care solution for the U.S. ........

Given the parlous state of the U.S. economy, that might not be high praise.

 

[Pumicestone]

Article V - The law has the right to forbid only actions harmful to society.

^ Those who choose to practice Islam, homosexuality, etc... are engaging in actions harmful to Western societies (not to mention the species).

Pardon my Aussie ignorance but .... "Article V" of what ?

And I humbly suggest that there are many millions of genuine, sincere, hard-working, peace-loving Muslims who are as entitled to their religious beliefs as you are.

Likewise, there is a very,. very long list of homosexuals who have and do contribute greatly to Western society.

Judge not lest ye be judged.

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

I hear you but all economists are not equal in the same way that all politicians are not. The economists that devised 'The Purple Health Plan' were not a group of corporate economists bought and paid for to accomplish their patron's political objectives which, of course, all center on increasing their shareholder's profit. Nor, were they employed by the federal government.

What they were primarily, in fact, was some of the best academic and independent economists in the U.S. led by Laurence Kotlikoff who is preeminent in the field of economics.

Of course, sponsors from the private sector and the federal government did endorse their work as there's always some people who have the integrity to buck the system and work to successfully accomplish such an important objective in a manner that's best for their nation and people.

U.S. politicians; however, never gave them the time of day. They were too busy fighting for the people that pay them to see their special interests passed into law. So, now we have the PPACA (e.g. "Obamacare") which is an annual expenditure in the federal budget of more than $100 billion a year instead.

Given the parlous state of the U.S. economy, that might not be high praise.

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

I was making an inside joke with Deschado about a right-wing politician in France. You can disregard that post.

As for judging, you've misunderstood the verse you cited. Did you forget that Jesus said, "Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment" (John 7:24).

Read: What Did Jesus Mean by "Judge Not"? | PARSE

In a sinful world, no community can exist for long where nobody is ever held accountable: no teacher would grade a student's performance; no citizen would sit on a jury and convict a criminal of any criminal act no matter how heinous; no electorate could ever call a wicked or failed leader to account; no nation could ever protect itself from being victimized, attacked, or undermined; etc... etc... etc...

Every judge in the world does need not to step down immediately and societies rapidly deteriorate into lawless chaos because you've misinterpreted a verse in the bible that speaks about judging. I tell you what, how about we give all the serial murders on death row your address and tell them they can go free if they promise to stay with you and that you won't "judge" them. Deal?

Lolol... I'm kidding, of course.

Read 1 Corinthians 6 where Paul speaks of genuine Christians one day being involved in the judgment of the world and of angels. Jesus often judged the behavior of other people during His ministry on earth and ultimately will judge all behavior of every person (Acts 10:42, Matthew 25, etc...). And we haven't even broached biblical issues of excommunication yet. But then, we don't need to.

The point is that Jesus taught TO judge rightly and NOT TO judge at all if we judge others the way the Pharisees did refusing to remove our own blindness beforehand. That was His message in context.

Not that people must allow themselves, their societies, and their entire civilization to be destroyed by a wicked false religious cult and those whom the devil has deceived with it because judging is forbidden.

*rolls eyes*.

How negligent, evil, and wholly unscriptural such a position is. The only people I ever have seen advocate for it are unsaved non-Christian ignoramuses on the left.

"Like a trampled spring and a polluted well Is a righteous man who gives way before the wicked" (Proverbs 25:26).

Pardon my Aussie ignorance but .... "Article V" of what ?


Judge not lest ye be judged.

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

And Australia might want to mind it's own backyard for the garden needs weeding: Mother's Day bomb plot foiled: Anti-terror police arrest doctor's teenage son in Melbourne and boy, 14, in Sydney after dramatic raids - and bomb squad officers detonate three 'improvised explosive devices' | Daily Mail Online

"to reports, the arrested teen regularly spoke about ISIS on his Facebook page, branded the United States terrorists, and said those who don't pray five times a day are not Muslim."

If those bombs he had set up to murder "infidels" had gone off, it would not have been a happy Mother's Day in Australia this year for impacted families of homegrown Islamic terrorism.

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

If we practiced the progressivism taught by liberals like jimmyiny at present, instead of actually fighting and defeating the Nazis, we would have foolishly embraced them and celebrated the diversity they brought (as they seditiously plotted to overthrow us).

For to discriminate against their left-wing, Darwinian, neo-pagan, occultic, and fabricated "christian" cult would have been nationalistic and oppressive upon the Nazis and their Germanic neo-pagan cultural groups.

Fortunately, the liberals and conservatives of that period were different from what we have today. Back then liberals were primarily classical liberals (not to be confused with "progressive"/modern liberals) and conservatives were primarily paleoconservatives (not to be confused with neo-conservatives) and the brains in their skulls still functioned.

 

[Desdichado]

I'm impressed at the way you have taken an interest in British politics, very unusual for Americans to do this, I guess that given the size of the US you don't really need to venture out of your own country - metaphorically speaking.

Yeah, state and local politics in the United States is as such that keeping tabs on your state and region is almost like keeping tabs on separate countries. Everyone's playing the political game here on an almost absurd level.

But thank you. All I have to say is that I'm an elections nerd.

 

[Desdichado]

Wow - better Eye Candy than anything on the Australian parliamentary benches.
And she's smart as well ???




SMACK !

America fields some pretty good looking female politicians...sometimes. Nothing that beats Marion though. Part of the draw is that she is French of course, hahaha.

Marion Marechal-Le Pen is the best thing to come out of France since the 'Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen' in 1789.

Vive la France!

 

[Desdichado]

Oh, and I just noticed jimmyiny that you may have intentionally also falsely inferred that I'm an anti-Semite in the course of all that ad hominem you directed against me.

So, for the record: I am NOT an anti-Semite! I highly value my personal Jewish friends (some of whom are on the left) and fully support conservative Jewish authors, analysts, and media pundits whom have and continue to make tremendous contributions to our societies and world Also, I support the continuing existence of the state of Israel and the West maintaining close ties with and assisting in the protection of that country.

^ You can quote that in the future jimmy "the flinger of ad hominem" iny in the future (though you never will because it doesn't assist you in tearing me down a practice you've almost solely engaged in because obviously you can't win an argument).

Good gravy. As a Jew by Halakhic Law, I give AgeofKnowledge my stamp of approval.

There are some people on here who seem antisemitic, but AgeofKnowledge isn't one of them.

 

[Desdichado]

You know, I do take the blame for what has happened here. Bringing up my future wife has really set things off course.

So! 'bout dem elections in UK! What a ride!