None Good...No Not One!

[dcontroversal]

That's a lot of words brother but cant find the word love in it anywhere.

What's that verse of Corinthians 13:1 about being a clanging symbol?

When it comes to who's good. God is Good. God is always good.

Forgive and forget your own and other peoples sins. Even as He forgives and forgets ours.

Live lots.

Laugh much!

Love often.

God bless.

Amen.

Love and truth go hand in hand bro......Love demands the truth......and the truth is simple...I forgive every one who has sinned against me....but that does not change the fact of our very nature and those who claim to be sinless, self righteous at the detriment of those like the thief on the cross or the tax collector who beat upon his chest while admitting they were sinners......the post is aimed at all who claim to be without sin and holier than thou bro.

 

[CRC]

Jesus said that God “makes his sun rise upon wicked people and good”. Concerning Barnabas the record is, “He was a good man.” Young Christian women were instructed to be “good”. House servants were told to be in subjection to their owners, “not only to the good and reasonable, but also to those difficult to please.” (Matt. 5:45; Acts 11:24; Titus 2:5; 1 Pet. 2:18, ) In all of these cases “good” translates the one Greek original word, agathós. The same Greek word is used where the record tells of the rich young ruler who questioned Jesus: “Good Teacher, what must I do to inherit everlasting life?” Jesus said to him: “Why do you call me good? Nobody is good, except one, God.”—Mark 10:17, 18; Luke 18:18, 19.
That the rich ruler was using “Good Teacher” as a formalistic title rather than as expressing his honest conviction concerning Jesus is shown by his rejection of Jesus’ advice. Apparently he did not consider Jesus such a good teacher in reality, for he went off without following Christ’s counsel. He deserved rebuke.

 

[Rudimental]

Jesus said to him: “Why do you call me good? Nobody is good, except one, God.

How perfect is our Lord. He could have took the credit then and went along with the goodness that the young rich ruler extended to Him and it would have been seen by them and us now as right and well but He quickly gave God all the glory and credit. How perfect is that?

How many people on here can hand on heart honestly say they wouldn't have taken the credit and quickly given it to God like Jesus did?

IMO the young and rich rulers life was predestined and put into the bible for our own instruction.

We can learn a very great lesson from his life.

 

[JesusIsAll]

How perfect is our Lord. He could have took the credit then and went along with the goodness that the young rich ruler extended to Him and it would have been seen by them and us now as right and well but He quickly gave God all the glory and credit. How perfect is that?

Except for one thing. The Lord Jesus was not denying His deity or being gratuitously humble. He was pointing out to us all that He was being called good, that this young man was observing something and speaking a spiritually discerned truth of Jesus Christ, that He is God, of that good.

 

[Chica]

Hello dear brother, Just wanted to come by and let you know I havn't forgotten you.

 

[dcontroversal]

Jesus said that God “makes his sun rise upon wicked people and good”. Concerning Barnabas the record is, “He was a good man.” Young Christian women were instructed to be “good”. House servants were told to be in subjection to their owners, “not only to the good and reasonable, but also to those difficult to please.” (Matt. 5:45; Acts 11:24; Titus 2:5; 1 Pet. 2:18, ) In all of these cases “good” translates the one Greek original word, agathós. The same Greek word is used where the record tells of the rich young ruler who questioned Jesus: “Good Teacher, what must I do to inherit everlasting life?” Jesus said to him: “Why do you call me good? Nobody is good, except one, God.”—Mark 10:17, 18; Luke 18:18, 19.
That the rich ruler was using “Good Teacher” as a formalistic title rather than as expressing his honest conviction concerning Jesus is shown by his rejection of Jesus’ advice. Apparently he did not consider Jesus such a good teacher in reality, for he went off without following Christ’s counsel. He deserved rebuke.

Romans states that there is none GOOD no NOT ONE.............and this is aimed and the natural, fallen, sinful state of the flesh......!

 

[Chica]

Hello dear brother, Just wanted to come by and let you know I havn't forgotten you.

Also meant to tell you, thank you for supporting me on my polls. I appreciate it.

 

[dcontroversal]

I have often wondered how these self rightious folks who no longer sin are going to react when they stand before the Father and He starts pointing out all their sins.
Especially there claim that they only missed up sometimes but never really sinned nor lied about being sinless.

They will weep, beg and cry for mercy.....and tragic as some will be removed from his presence and cast into the lake of fire for sure......what a tragic day for all lost men........who boasted in their own righteousness over the blood and righteousness of Christ!

 

[Chica]

They will weep, beg and cry for mercy.....and tragic as some will be removed from his presence and cast into the lake of fire for sure......what a tragic day for all lost men........who boasted in their own righteousness over the blood and righteousness of Christ!

Why don't you accept private messages. I gues you can send me one and tell me why.

 

[PeterJens]

Presumption - The church is very presumptious. Each denomination tends to believe they have got it right, and goes around condemning the others over some point or other. I know how easy it is to focus on one issue and miss much more important ones. Paul was always very keen on being cautous, loving and supportive.

Therefore, my dear friends, as you have always obeyed—not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence—continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling,
phil 2:12

There is a classic salvation question. If I was asked why should I be let into heaven? Because Jesus died for me, he washed me clean and I walk in his ways.

Now Jesus talks of people claiming miracle powers, but he says go away from me evil doers. I know of "christians" who have convinced themselves to do terrible things against an "evil" enemy, yet they think they are walking in the Lord.

So I think OSAS is more about appeasing wavering hearts who want a label rather than discovering Jesus and his gospel for real. The problem is tribalism which Catholics and most religious groups use for their benefit, not because this is anything from the Lord, but it helps to make the enemies over there and we are all ok over here.

Now we know this is a lie, because Jesus himself says tares or weeds are sown amoungst the faithful, but to weed them out would cause too much damage to those young in faith, so you just have to walk faithfully. But those called to the Kingdom will never fail, or falter, because their calling is true, they are born from on high into eternity. So why do they need OSAS, because it is just a reality. But I think this is the point, you really do not know, but want a concept that gives you assurance, because you are not sure truly you have the Holy Spirit and need this idea to stay true.

For me, I have met so many off the wall christians in the "christian" church, I no longer think we have a clue how many really understand walking with the Lord and how many are along for the ride. But that is not our job, it is just to stay faithful.

So if you think I am against OSAS, I am not, I just think it is irrelevent.

 

[dcontroversal]

Why don't you accept private messages. I gues you can send me one and tell me why.

Well, I have gotten a lot of messages and it just takes a while to go thru my mail HAH.....I have three e-mail addresses hah

 

[Jason0047]

Presumption - The church is very presumptious. Each denomination tends to believe they have got it right, and goes around condemning the others over some point or other. I know how easy it is to focus on one issue and miss much more important ones. Paul was always very keen on being cautous, loving and supportive.

Therefore, my dear friends, as you have always obeyed—not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence—continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling,
phil 2:12

There is a classic salvation question. If I was asked why should I be let into heaven? Because Jesus died for me, he washed me clean and I walk in his ways.

Now Jesus talks of people claiming miracle powers, but he says go away from me evil doers. I know of "christians" who have convinced themselves to do terrible things against an "evil" enemy, yet they think they are walking in the Lord.

So I think OSAS is more about appeasing wavering hearts who want a label rather than discovering Jesus and his gospel for real. The problem is tribalism which Catholics and most religious groups use for their benefit, not because this is anything from the Lord, but it helps to make the enemies over there and we are all ok over here.

Now we know this is a lie, because Jesus himself says tares or weeds are sown amoungst the faithful, but to weed them out would cause too much damage to those young in faith, so you just have to walk faithfully. But those called to the Kingdom will never fail, or falter, because their calling is true, they are born from on high into eternity. So why do they need OSAS, because it is just a reality. But I think this is the point, you really do not know, but want a concept that gives you assurance, because you are not sure truly you have the Holy Spirit and need this idea to stay true.

For me, I have met so many off the wall christians in the "christian" church, I no longer think we have a clue how many really understand walking with the Lord and how many are along for the ride. But that is not our job, it is just to stay faithful.

So if you think I am against OSAS, I am not, I just think it is irrelevent.

I think OSAS is by far one of the most deadliest teachings in the church today. I believe it is evil at it's core. There are many conditions for the believer on certain things. For example:

Jesus said if you do not forgive, then your Father will not forgive you. < ------- It's a condition. No OSAS here.

John says if you hate your brother you are in darkness. He says that if one hates their brother they are a murderer and no murderer has eternal life abiding in them. < -------Again, it's a condition, and there is no OSAS here.

Anyways, there are tons of these in the New Testament.

I hope you prayerfully check them out.

May God's love, grace, and peace be upon you this fine day.

 

[3Scoreand10]

I think OSAS is by far one of the most deadliest teachings in the church today. I believe it is evil at it's core. There are many conditions for the believer on certain things. For example:

Jesus said if you do not forgive, then your Father will not forgive you. < ------- It's a condition. No OSAS here.

John says if you hate your brother you are in darkness. He says that if one hates their brother they are a murderer and no murderer has eternal life abiding in them. < -------Again, it's a condition, and there is no OSAS here.

Anyways, there are tons of these in the New Testament.

I hope you prayerfully check them out.

May God's love, grace, and peace be upon you this fine day.

There you go again teaching that keeping your salvation is based on what you do or don't do and not upon Jesus and what He did. You just cannot accept that Jesus does not need your help.

 

[JesusIsAll]

There you go again teaching that keeping your salvation is based on what you do or don't do and not upon Jesus and what He did. You just cannot accept that Jesus does not need your help.

I always love it when somebody comes along with their poison, seeding doubt and lies, then ends their post with "God bless" or "love," you get the idea. I suppose a spoonful of sugar helps the bitter medicine go down? A little of the 'ol angel of light routine? Or laying on people a false gospel, shredding Bible truth, then, "Let's not be divisive." The cult people, who need to even hide who they are, with all their Judaizing, love that one, the last resort of somebody who has lost the debate, on the basis of scripture truth, to attack the messenger.

 

[3Scoreand10]

I always love it when somebody comes along with their poison, seeding doubt and lies, then ends their post with "God bless" or "love," you get the idea. I suppose a spoonful of sugar helps the bitter medicine go down? A little of the 'ol angel of light routine? Or laying on people a false gospel, shredding Bible truth, then, "Let's not be divisive." The cult people, who need to even hide who they are, with all their Judaizing, love that one, the last resort of somebody who has lost the debate, on the basis of scripture truth, to attack the messenger.

What is amazing is that they deny that they teach works for salvation when the evidence is present in every post when they say that a person must do this or that to remain saved. They take eternal life out of the hands of the Savior and place it in their own hands. They minimize the role of Jesus and say that they must help Him out.

 

[JesusIsAll]

What is amazing is that they deny that they teach works for salvation when the evidence is present in every post when they say that a person must do this or that to remain saved. They take eternal life out of the hands of the Savior and place it in their own hands. They minimize the role of Jesus and say that they must help Him out.

Exactly! Their whole premise is salvation, contingent on works, yet they don't teach works salvation? It's like the sabbath pushers. They don't believe you're under the law, but you're under the law.

Maybe it's schizophrenia, but I sure don't know what faith these people hold to. It's not Christianity. And it's usually the likes of the gospel according to White, Russell, Armstrong, Smith, Buffalo Bill Hawkins or the Pope, though Catholics at least don't hide what they are, as if under some rock: anything but clear teachings in scripture a child could understand.

Just being honest, I've never seen so many "Christians" in the real world, so confused over the simple gospel of grace, by faith, and walking in the Spirit, though you do find the poisonous teachings going on here, a lot, in the cults.

 

[MarcR]

Madison Avenue pushes that if something is free it isn't good for anything; and the people who teach against OSAS have bought into the idea that that have to earn their Salvation.

Ro 5:8-10
8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.
10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
KJV

 

[dcontroversal]

I think OSAS is by far one of the most deadliest teachings in the church today. I believe it is evil at it's core. There are many conditions for the believer on certain things. For example:

Jesus said if you do not forgive, then your Father will not forgive you. < ------- It's a condition. No OSAS here.

John says if you hate your brother you are in darkness. He says that if one hates their brother they are a murderer and no murderer has eternal life abiding in them. < -------Again, it's a condition, and there is no OSAS here.

Anyways, there are tons of these in the New Testament.

I hope you prayerfully check them out.

May God's love, grace, and peace be upon you this fine day.

Actually your salvation lite is one of the most deadliest because it makes your salvation wholly based upon your works and lies......!

 

[dcontroversal]

There you go again teaching that keeping your salvation is based on what you do or don't do and not upon Jesus and what He did. You just cannot accept that Jesus does not need your help.

And like all of those who go before the throne believing it is his right based upon his works will find out to late...he will be like the rich guy who while cooking refuses to believe that God's word and plan will work.....another truth which he denies and rejects.....man as far as that goes I can think of numerous biblical truths that he rejects and denies based upon his false salvation lite heresy.....

 

[dcontroversal]

Madison Avenue pushes that if something is free it isn't good for anything; and the people who teach against OSAS have bought into the idea that that have to earn their Salvation.

Ro 5:8-10
8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.
10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
KJV

Amen to that for sure......more truth here....rejected by some, but truth nonetheless!