Assessment of Job
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Are we sure we are understanding the definition of "repent" here? Just wondering.
As I understand it, "repent" is to change direction........"confession" is the admission of sin. Changing direction, as in this case, would mean Job realized that he was going in the wrong direction when trying to figure out why all that stuff was happening to him. He was STILL FAITHFUL...........just disoriented so to speak.........
Be sure to look at his blurb about........"though He slay me..........." to realize he maintained his fait in and love of God.
Can speak about his being righteous in his own eyes, but can't argue that God FIRST claimed him righteous.
Don't know what you are after here, other than semantics...........it really does not detract from the faith and love Job had in and for God. Just saying
As I understand it, "repent" is to change direction........"confession" is the admission of sin. Changing direction, as in this case, would mean Job realized that he was going in the wrong direction when trying to figure out why all that stuff was happening to him. He was STILL FAITHFUL...........just disoriented so to speak.........
Be sure to look at his blurb about........"though He slay me..........." to realize he maintained his fait in and love of God.
Can speak about his being righteous in his own eyes, but can't argue that God FIRST claimed him righteous.
Don't know what you are after here, other than semantics...........it really does not detract from the faith and love Job had in and for God. Just saying
Furthermore,
Elihu was not mentioned when God lowered the boom on the other 3 and For the record, Elihu is not being talked about in CH 42, that is Job speaking to God and repenting or Turing away from his.
The Book is about about Faith and enduring trials, but is is equally or even more about leaving a door open due to being prideful and self righteous.
This view is not taken and met with hostility, because many "Christians" cannot fathom that God would allow Satan to do anything against one of his children. This Book also destroys the Word Of Faith movements doctrine that God will not allow you to suffer and even be afflicted with sickness to bring him glory.
It is a 2 fold story....
Elihu was not mentioned when God lowered the boom on the other 3 and For the record, Elihu is not being talked about in CH 42, that is Job speaking to God and repenting or Turing away from his.
The Book is about about Faith and enduring trials, but is is equally or even more about leaving a door open due to being prideful and self righteous.
This view is not taken and met with hostility, because many "Christians" cannot fathom that God would allow Satan to do anything against one of his children. This Book also destroys the Word Of Faith movements doctrine that God will not allow you to suffer and even be afflicted with sickness to bring him glory.
It is a 2 fold story....
That's really just an opinion, and - that's ok - we all are entitled to our opinions. 
But, it is just an opinion. I do not see the Book of Job about being "prideful" and "self righteous" at all. If anything other than patience and faith are added to the lessons learned in Job, it MAY be agonizing over trials that come upon one even though they have not strayed from God. God made it clear from the very beginning of this Book that Job had not strayed from Him. Job had done NOT ONE THING to deserve what he suffered ---- if one believes he was suffering because of some sin he had committed.
Now, it is clear that Job got on God's last nerve, but to count that as anything more than bewilderment is going the extra mile to condemn Job in my opinion. Why not focus on the life lessons contained in Job rather than on trying to justify what Job endured? I don't see the point.
But, it is just an opinion. I do not see the Book of Job about being "prideful" and "self righteous" at all. If anything other than patience and faith are added to the lessons learned in Job, it MAY be agonizing over trials that come upon one even though they have not strayed from God. God made it clear from the very beginning of this Book that Job had not strayed from Him. Job had done NOT ONE THING to deserve what he suffered ---- if one believes he was suffering because of some sin he had committed. Now, it is clear that Job got on God's last nerve, but to count that as anything more than bewilderment is going the extra mile to condemn Job in my opinion. Why not focus on the life lessons contained in Job rather than on trying to justify what Job endured? I don't see the point.
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That's really just an opinion, and - that's ok - we all are entitled to our opinions. But, it is just an opinion. I do not see the Book of Job about being "prideful" and "self righteous" at all. If anything other than patience and faith are added to the lessons learned in Job, it MAY be agonizing over trials that come upon one even though they have not strayed from God. God made it clear from the very beginning of this Book that Job had not strayed from Him. Job had done NOT ONE THING to deserve what he suffered ---- if one believes he was suffering because of some sin he had committed.
Now, it is clear that Job got on God's last nerve, but to count that as anything more than bewilderment is going the extra mile to condemn Job in my opinion. Why not focus on the life lessons contained in Job rather than on trying to justify what Job endured? I don't see the point.
But, it is just an opinion. I do not see the Book of Job about being "prideful" and "self righteous" at all. If anything other than patience and faith are added to the lessons learned in Job, it MAY be agonizing over trials that come upon one even though they have not strayed from God. God made it clear from the very beginning of this Book that Job had not strayed from Him. Job had done NOT ONE THING to deserve what he suffered ---- if one believes he was suffering because of some sin he had committed. Now, it is clear that Job got on God's last nerve, but to count that as anything more than bewilderment is going the extra mile to condemn Job in my opinion. Why not focus on the life lessons contained in Job rather than on trying to justify what Job endured? I don't see the point.
The chapters 32-42 are a rebuking of Job for his questioning and his attitude, God himself does it for 3 full chapters, so all together between Elihu and God there is a quarter of the book dedicated to getting Job to the point where he repented and confessed he was wrong, that's alot of a book for one specific point, that there was something wrong with Job.
To say Job was without sin is elevating him to the point of Christ.
JESUS even said John was the greatest among those born of women, not Job.
Job said what does it profit a man not to sin......thats just wrong man.
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That's really just an opinion, and - that's ok - we all are entitled to our opinions. But, it is just an opinion. I do not see the Book of Job about being "prideful" and "self righteous" at all. If anything other than patience and faith are added to the lessons learned in Job, it MAY be agonizing over trials that come upon one even though they have not strayed from God. God made it clear from the very beginning of this Book that Job had not strayed from Him. Job had done NOT ONE THING to deserve what he suffered ---- if one believes he was suffering because of some sin he had committed.
Now, it is clear that Job got on God's last nerve, but to count that as anything more than bewilderment is going the extra mile to condemn Job in my opinion. Why not focus on the life lessons contained in Job rather than on trying to justify what Job endured? I don't see the point.
But, it is just an opinion. I do not see the Book of Job about being "prideful" and "self righteous" at all. If anything other than patience and faith are added to the lessons learned in Job, it MAY be agonizing over trials that come upon one even though they have not strayed from God. God made it clear from the very beginning of this Book that Job had not strayed from Him. Job had done NOT ONE THING to deserve what he suffered ---- if one believes he was suffering because of some sin he had committed. Now, it is clear that Job got on God's last nerve, but to count that as anything more than bewilderment is going the extra mile to condemn Job in my opinion. Why not focus on the life lessons contained in Job rather than on trying to justify what Job endured? I don't see the point.
I never said JOB was suffering because of a SIN, but ask yourself why Job got on God's last nerve and you might see were some of us are going. I assure you it was not out of sheer bewilderment.
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That's really just an opinion, and - that's ok - we all are entitled to our opinions. But, it is just an opinion. I do not see the Book of Job about being "prideful" and "self righteous" at all. If anything other than patience and faith are added to the lessons learned in Job, it MAY be agonizing over trials that come upon one even though they have not strayed from God. God made it clear from the very beginning of this Book that Job had not strayed from Him. Job had done NOT ONE THING to deserve what he suffered ---- if one believes he was suffering because of some sin he had committed.
Now, it is clear that Job got on God's last nerve, but to count that as anything more than bewilderment is going the extra mile to condemn Job in my opinion. Why not focus on the life lessons contained in Job rather than on trying to justify what Job endured? I don't see the point.
But, it is just an opinion. I do not see the Book of Job about being "prideful" and "self righteous" at all. If anything other than patience and faith are added to the lessons learned in Job, it MAY be agonizing over trials that come upon one even though they have not strayed from God. God made it clear from the very beginning of this Book that Job had not strayed from Him. Job had done NOT ONE THING to deserve what he suffered ---- if one believes he was suffering because of some sin he had committed. Now, it is clear that Job got on God's last nerve, but to count that as anything more than bewilderment is going the extra mile to condemn Job in my opinion. Why not focus on the life lessons contained in Job rather than on trying to justify what Job endured? I don't see the point.
Job had defended himself all along by saying, contrary to his three friends' opinion, that there is good evidence from all over the world that the wicked often prosper and the righteous often suffer.
Job 21, NASB
29 "Have you not asked wayfaring men,
And do you not recognize their witness?
30 "For the wicked is reserved for the day of calamity;
They will be led forth at the day of fury."
29 "Have you not asked wayfaring men,
And do you not recognize their witness?
30 "For the wicked is reserved for the day of calamity;
They will be led forth at the day of fury."
He has won the argument, but he is not without sin, as the youngster Elihu points out in his lengthy soliloquy from chapters 32-37. Early on, he defines Job's sin, which was not what he had been punished for -- he had not been punished for any sin -- but it was the sin he had displayed after the calamities that befell him and his family.
Job 33
8 "Surely you have spoken in my hearing, And I have heard the sound of your words:
9 " 'I am pure, without transgression; I am innocent and there is no guilt in me.
10 " 'Behold, He invents pretexts against me; He counts me as His enemy.
11 " 'He puts my feet in the stocks; He watches all my paths.' "
12 "Behold, let me tell you, you are not right in this, For God is greater than man."
8 "Surely you have spoken in my hearing, And I have heard the sound of your words:
9 " 'I am pure, without transgression; I am innocent and there is no guilt in me.
10 " 'Behold, He invents pretexts against me; He counts me as His enemy.
11 " 'He puts my feet in the stocks; He watches all my paths.' "
12 "Behold, let me tell you, you are not right in this, For God is greater than man."
Job had claimed innocence at the expense of God's grace. Elihu is right, as shown in Job 42:6 as the man does, in fact. repent: "I retract, and I repent in dust and ashes." In his suffering Job had described himself in overly glowing terms that did not match his character, and in so doing had disrespected God. Yes, Job was a righteous man. What he was not was a sinlessly perfect man, as of course no man is.
In Job as in all men, there remains a sediment of pride that clouds the purity of our lives as we envision them, and the moment we begin thinking we are better than God has made us, we sin, and then will come the rebuke of God's chastisement, for our own benefit and good.
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That's exactly what the Devil was doing!
God allowed the Devil/Satan to test and try Job (even as He does ALL believers) to perfect his character, faith and patience and to remove any chaff left in him. Luke 22v31, Rom 5v1-5, James 1v2-4,12, 5v11.
Even our dear Lord Jesus was not exempt from trials, temptations and testings, indeed this was the way in which God the Father perpared and perfected Him for not only His earthly ministry BUT also for His High priestly Ministry after the Order of Melchizedek! Matt 4v1-11, Heb 2v10-18, 4v15
Yahweh Shalom
God allowed the Devil/Satan to test and try Job (even as He does ALL believers) to perfect his character, faith and patience and to remove any chaff left in him. Luke 22v31, Rom 5v1-5, James 1v2-4,12, 5v11.
Even our dear Lord Jesus was not exempt from trials, temptations and testings, indeed this was the way in which God the Father perpared and perfected Him for not only His earthly ministry BUT also for His High priestly Ministry after the Order of Melchizedek! Matt 4v1-11, Heb 2v10-18, 4v15
Yahweh Shalom
S
Something else I noticed about Job and his testing is that God asks satan if he considered testing Job, and then tells satan in chapter two that Satan talked him into testing Job, even though Job had done no wrong.
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No point to make, just saying it sounds like God was testing Satan, while satan was testing Job. Idk, what do yall think?
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No point to make, just saying it sounds like God was testing Satan, while satan was testing Job. Idk, what do yall think?
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Job was not like imperfect men when disaster falls. His reaction to sudden and profound loss, was to accept it with grace as if from the hand of God, with thanksgiving and praise. Men who are not walking in the state of entire sanctification, will not be able to praise God for the evil that befalls them. They will be confused and if they have been listening to the WoF teachings, they will be devastated.
So here we are presented with a man who walks in the Spirit, a faithful servant of Almighty God. Later he would lament:
O that I were as in the months of old
as in the days when God watched over me
when his lamp shone over my head and by his light
I walked through darkness when I was in my prime. 29.2-4.
For Job, each successive blow is accepted magnanimously: The Lord gave and the Lord has taken away; blessed be the name of the Lord.1.21. Shall we receive the good from the hand of God and not receive the bad? 2.10. On recounting his past experiences 29.23, Job does not speak of his worldly loss, but expresses his grief about his loss of light, or in other words, the presence of God.
Job pleads, Make me know my transgressions and my sin,13.23. All of the understanding of his past dealings with God were being demolished because there is silence regarding his request and readiness to repent, had he inadvertently sinned.His claim to sinlessness was due to light given, but now, circumstances lead him to believe that his convictions are in doubt, which brought extreme confusion and despair.
Job feels that God has become his enemy and is atacking him, the name YHWH being changed to El-Shaddai denoting destruction Is. 13.6, in the poeticsectionof the book 3.1- 42.6. To deal with El-Shaddai is a bitter and terrible experience, as in: Call me Mara (bitter) for El-Shaddai has dealt bitterly with me, Ruth 1.20.
Job is taunted throughout the speeches, by two thoughts, the first of which has been the temptation of the enemy since the beginning: Did God say? Genesis 3.1. God had declared Job sinless, and the accuser desired that Job would doubt it, losing his testimony. The voices taunted him with the thought that if indeed he was sinless, then God would have no reason to withdraw. If Job admitted he was not, then God would restore him as he desired. The issue was over Job's righteousness, and what is special about Job, is that he brings illumination to the severest of trial in the spiritual realm with which Jesus himself also had to contend, that is the seeming desertion of God in the hour of need of his most devout servants.
Job finally understands the purpose of the silence for himself and also for those who are willing to do all things without murmuring and arguing so that you may be blameless and innocent children of God without blemish, Phil. 2.14-15.
Job is convicted of his complaints about the absence of God and repents. Without the light of God, which was his only claim to holiness, he fell into sudden darkness, because he needed to learn not to lean on his own understanding in his holy state, depending instead on the light of God to guide him, but rather than become angry, he saw that even enjoyment of the presence of God must be given up willingly to worship the giver of the gift and not the gift itself. He is validated in that he had spoken correctly about God, that the trial was not because he sinned, and the accuser(s) were wrong. Finally, 'Job reflects the gratuitous love of God' wanting nothing for himself, happy to allow God to grace with his presence at his choosing, and to embrace darkness. Job's maturity/union is complete.
So here we are presented with a man who walks in the Spirit, a faithful servant of Almighty God. Later he would lament:
O that I were as in the months of old
as in the days when God watched over me
when his lamp shone over my head and by his light
I walked through darkness when I was in my prime. 29.2-4.
For Job, each successive blow is accepted magnanimously: The Lord gave and the Lord has taken away; blessed be the name of the Lord.1.21. Shall we receive the good from the hand of God and not receive the bad? 2.10. On recounting his past experiences 29.23, Job does not speak of his worldly loss, but expresses his grief about his loss of light, or in other words, the presence of God.
Job pleads, Make me know my transgressions and my sin,13.23. All of the understanding of his past dealings with God were being demolished because there is silence regarding his request and readiness to repent, had he inadvertently sinned.His claim to sinlessness was due to light given, but now, circumstances lead him to believe that his convictions are in doubt, which brought extreme confusion and despair.
Job feels that God has become his enemy and is atacking him, the name YHWH being changed to El-Shaddai denoting destruction Is. 13.6, in the poeticsectionof the book 3.1- 42.6. To deal with El-Shaddai is a bitter and terrible experience, as in: Call me Mara (bitter) for El-Shaddai has dealt bitterly with me, Ruth 1.20.
Job is taunted throughout the speeches, by two thoughts, the first of which has been the temptation of the enemy since the beginning: Did God say? Genesis 3.1. God had declared Job sinless, and the accuser desired that Job would doubt it, losing his testimony. The voices taunted him with the thought that if indeed he was sinless, then God would have no reason to withdraw. If Job admitted he was not, then God would restore him as he desired. The issue was over Job's righteousness, and what is special about Job, is that he brings illumination to the severest of trial in the spiritual realm with which Jesus himself also had to contend, that is the seeming desertion of God in the hour of need of his most devout servants.
Job finally understands the purpose of the silence for himself and also for those who are willing to do all things without murmuring and arguing so that you may be blameless and innocent children of God without blemish, Phil. 2.14-15.
Job is convicted of his complaints about the absence of God and repents. Without the light of God, which was his only claim to holiness, he fell into sudden darkness, because he needed to learn not to lean on his own understanding in his holy state, depending instead on the light of God to guide him, but rather than become angry, he saw that even enjoyment of the presence of God must be given up willingly to worship the giver of the gift and not the gift itself. He is validated in that he had spoken correctly about God, that the trial was not because he sinned, and the accuser(s) were wrong. Finally, 'Job reflects the gratuitous love of God' wanting nothing for himself, happy to allow God to grace with his presence at his choosing, and to embrace darkness. Job's maturity/union is complete.
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Why was Satan with the members of heavenly courts in the presence of GOD?
What was the purpose or mission of Satan patrolling the earth and observing what was going on?
Why did GOD mention Job name to Satan?
My answer:
the sons of GOD presenting them selve but the devil come to see an opportunity thats why satan came along with them(NLT 1 peter 5:8 -Stay alert! Watch out for your great enemy, the devil. He prowls around like a roaring lion, looking for someone to devour.,)
and also when patroling the earth it was a deceived words toward GOD in vers 6 we see : Satan answered the Lord, “I have been patrolling the earth, watching everything that’s going on.” ( satan knows about job and keep silence for oppotunity) and then GOD said
vers 8 Then the Lord asked Satan, “Have you noticed my servant Job?(this word that satan wants to hear from GOD is like job doesn't have an interest in satan mind) He is the finest man in all the earth( if something like this satan should notice that this is something that preciouse to GOD). He is blameless—a man of complete integrity. He fears God and stays away from evil.”(this is somethimg satan cannot devour)
on vers 9 Satan replied to the Lord, “Yes, but Job has good reason to fear God. 10 You have always put a wall of protection around him and his home and his property. You have made him prosper in everything he does. Look how rich he is! (now you see how satan knows a lot about job, and it twisting argument to devour job)11 But reach out and take away everything he has, and he will surely curse you to your face!”
Was it fair for God to permit the testing from Satan towards Job?
11 But reach out and take away everything he has, and he will surely curse you to your face!”
12 “All right, you may test him,” the Lord said to Satan. “Do whatever you want with everything he possesses, but don’t harm him physically.” So Satan left the Lord’s presence.
(satan knew that job is an upright person what job has it from GOD and GOD has nothing to do with job choices to make, because everything job has is truly from GOD I think it is make sense that if GOD take it back what was HIS, what should we complain about it job doesn’t - {on vers 20 Job stood up and tore his robe in grief. Then he shaved his head and fell to the ground to worship. 21 He said,
“I came naked from my mother’s womb,
and I will be naked when I leave.
The Lord gave me what I had,
and the Lord has taken it away.
Praise the name of the Lord!”
22 In all of this, Job did not sin by blaming God.}
And satan knows and trying to devour job by taken away all he had, but job was a righteouse person is in the sight of GOD, does GOD make mistake to judge what is rightouse in GOD eyes, job the one who know who GOD is, and GOD knows what job will do for the right choices to choose not like adam and eve.
I hope we all get insight by what the bible trying to say about GOD throught job and we as human what we should do for choices to make, it is the right mind to know what is the devils trying to devour us with, as we see nothing wrong with GOD choices only there is the devil always trying to set our mind that the wrong doing is on GOD part )
Ephesians 6:11-16
11 Put on the full armor of God, so that you can take your stand against the devil’s schemes. 12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. 13 Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand. 14 Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place, 15 and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace. 16 In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one.
What was the purpose or mission of Satan patrolling the earth and observing what was going on?
Why did GOD mention Job name to Satan?
My answer:
the sons of GOD presenting them selve but the devil come to see an opportunity thats why satan came along with them(NLT 1 peter 5:8 -Stay alert! Watch out for your great enemy, the devil. He prowls around like a roaring lion, looking for someone to devour.,)
and also when patroling the earth it was a deceived words toward GOD in vers 6 we see : Satan answered the Lord, “I have been patrolling the earth, watching everything that’s going on.” ( satan knows about job and keep silence for oppotunity) and then GOD said
vers 8 Then the Lord asked Satan, “Have you noticed my servant Job?(this word that satan wants to hear from GOD is like job doesn't have an interest in satan mind) He is the finest man in all the earth( if something like this satan should notice that this is something that preciouse to GOD). He is blameless—a man of complete integrity. He fears God and stays away from evil.”(this is somethimg satan cannot devour)
on vers 9 Satan replied to the Lord, “Yes, but Job has good reason to fear God. 10 You have always put a wall of protection around him and his home and his property. You have made him prosper in everything he does. Look how rich he is! (now you see how satan knows a lot about job, and it twisting argument to devour job)11 But reach out and take away everything he has, and he will surely curse you to your face!”
Was it fair for God to permit the testing from Satan towards Job?
11 But reach out and take away everything he has, and he will surely curse you to your face!”
12 “All right, you may test him,” the Lord said to Satan. “Do whatever you want with everything he possesses, but don’t harm him physically.” So Satan left the Lord’s presence.
(satan knew that job is an upright person what job has it from GOD and GOD has nothing to do with job choices to make, because everything job has is truly from GOD I think it is make sense that if GOD take it back what was HIS, what should we complain about it job doesn’t - {on vers 20 Job stood up and tore his robe in grief. Then he shaved his head and fell to the ground to worship. 21 He said,
“I came naked from my mother’s womb,
and I will be naked when I leave.
The Lord gave me what I had,
and the Lord has taken it away.
Praise the name of the Lord!”
22 In all of this, Job did not sin by blaming God.}
And satan knows and trying to devour job by taken away all he had, but job was a righteouse person is in the sight of GOD, does GOD make mistake to judge what is rightouse in GOD eyes, job the one who know who GOD is, and GOD knows what job will do for the right choices to choose not like adam and eve.
I hope we all get insight by what the bible trying to say about GOD throught job and we as human what we should do for choices to make, it is the right mind to know what is the devils trying to devour us with, as we see nothing wrong with GOD choices only there is the devil always trying to set our mind that the wrong doing is on GOD part )
Ephesians 6:11-16
11 Put on the full armor of God, so that you can take your stand against the devil’s schemes. 12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. 13 Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand. 14 Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place, 15 and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace. 16 In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one.
Rom 8:35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
Rom 8:36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
Rom 8:37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
Rom 8:38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
Rom 8:39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Mal 3:13 Your words have been stout against me, saith the LORD. Yet ye say, What have we spoken so much against thee?
Mal 3:14 Ye have said, It is vain to serve God: and what profit is it that we have kept his ordinance, and that we have walked mournfully before the LORD of hosts?
Mal 3:15 And now we call the proud happy; yea, they that work wickedness are set up; yea, they that tempt God are even delivered.
Mal 3:16 Then they that feared the LORD spake often one to another: and the LORD hearkened, and heard it, and a book of remembrance was written before him for them that feared the LORD, and that thought upon his name.
Mal 3:17 And they shall be mine, saith the LORD of hosts, in that day when I make up my jewels; and I will spare them, as a man spareth his own son that serveth him.
Mal 3:18 Then shall ye return, and discern between the righteous and the wicked, between him that serveth God and him that serveth him not.
Mal 4:2 But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.
Mal 4:3 And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, saith the LORD of hosts.
Psa 73:1 A Psalm of Asaph. Truly God is good to Israel, even to such as are of a clean heart.
Psa 73:2 But as for me, my feet were almost gone; my steps had well nigh slipped.
Psa 73:3 For I was envious at the foolish, when I saw the prosperity of the wicked.
Psa 73:4 For there are no bands in their death: but their strength is firm.
Psa 73:5 They are not in trouble as other men; neither are they plagued like other men.
Psa 73:6 Therefore pride compasseth them about as a chain; violence covereth them as a garment.
Psa 73:7 Their eyes stand out with fatness: they have more than heart could wish.
Psa 73:8 They are corrupt, and speak wickedly concerning oppression: they speak loftily.
Psa 73:9 They set their mouth against the heavens, and their tongue walketh through the earth.
Psa 73:10 Therefore his people return hither: and waters of a full cup are wrung out to them.
Psa 73:11 And they say, How doth God know? and is there knowledge in the most High?
Psa 73:12 Behold, these are the ungodly, who prosper in the world; they increase in riches.
Psa 73:13 Verily I have cleansed my heart in vain, and washed my hands in innocency.
Psa 73:14 For all the day long have I been plagued, and chastened every morning.
Psa 73:15 If I say, I will speak thus; behold, I should offend against the generation of thy children.
Psa 73:16 When I thought to know this, it was too painful for me;
Psa 73:17 Until I went into the sanctuary of God; then understood I their end.
The book of Job is about Job's 3 friends that said Job must of sinned and is being afflicted by God which was not true for God called Job a righteous man, so they erred and brought sacrifices to Job and they offered them to the LORD.
Job thought he was too righteous for anything bad to happen to him for just because we are living for God we might still go through trouble, so Job erred.
The young man seems like he was the only one who said right for Job did not have to offer a sacrifice for him.
Rom 8:36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
Rom 8:37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
Rom 8:38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
Rom 8:39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Mal 3:13 Your words have been stout against me, saith the LORD. Yet ye say, What have we spoken so much against thee?
Mal 3:14 Ye have said, It is vain to serve God: and what profit is it that we have kept his ordinance, and that we have walked mournfully before the LORD of hosts?
Mal 3:15 And now we call the proud happy; yea, they that work wickedness are set up; yea, they that tempt God are even delivered.
Mal 3:16 Then they that feared the LORD spake often one to another: and the LORD hearkened, and heard it, and a book of remembrance was written before him for them that feared the LORD, and that thought upon his name.
Mal 3:17 And they shall be mine, saith the LORD of hosts, in that day when I make up my jewels; and I will spare them, as a man spareth his own son that serveth him.
Mal 3:18 Then shall ye return, and discern between the righteous and the wicked, between him that serveth God and him that serveth him not.
Mal 4:2 But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.
Mal 4:3 And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, saith the LORD of hosts.
Psa 73:1 A Psalm of Asaph. Truly God is good to Israel, even to such as are of a clean heart.
Psa 73:2 But as for me, my feet were almost gone; my steps had well nigh slipped.
Psa 73:3 For I was envious at the foolish, when I saw the prosperity of the wicked.
Psa 73:4 For there are no bands in their death: but their strength is firm.
Psa 73:5 They are not in trouble as other men; neither are they plagued like other men.
Psa 73:6 Therefore pride compasseth them about as a chain; violence covereth them as a garment.
Psa 73:7 Their eyes stand out with fatness: they have more than heart could wish.
Psa 73:8 They are corrupt, and speak wickedly concerning oppression: they speak loftily.
Psa 73:9 They set their mouth against the heavens, and their tongue walketh through the earth.
Psa 73:10 Therefore his people return hither: and waters of a full cup are wrung out to them.
Psa 73:11 And they say, How doth God know? and is there knowledge in the most High?
Psa 73:12 Behold, these are the ungodly, who prosper in the world; they increase in riches.
Psa 73:13 Verily I have cleansed my heart in vain, and washed my hands in innocency.
Psa 73:14 For all the day long have I been plagued, and chastened every morning.
Psa 73:15 If I say, I will speak thus; behold, I should offend against the generation of thy children.
Psa 73:16 When I thought to know this, it was too painful for me;
Psa 73:17 Until I went into the sanctuary of God; then understood I their end.
The book of Job is about Job's 3 friends that said Job must of sinned and is being afflicted by God which was not true for God called Job a righteous man, so they erred and brought sacrifices to Job and they offered them to the LORD.
Job thought he was too righteous for anything bad to happen to him for just because we are living for God we might still go through trouble, so Job erred.
The young man seems like he was the only one who said right for Job did not have to offer a sacrifice for him.
Wow! You really digged deep in the well to find this thread!
It really tells us much about the relationship between God and Satan, doesn't it? Satan is just a pawn who will be used by God whether he likes it or lumps it (and I'm sure he lumps it). God is sovereign and Job profited in the end run. Job is still profitting to this very day.(Just like this old thread)
It really tells us much about the relationship between God and Satan, doesn't it? Satan is just a pawn who will be used by God whether he likes it or lumps it (and I'm sure he lumps it). God is sovereign and Job profited in the end run. Job is still profitting to this very day.(Just like this old thread
)