OSAS doctrine denies the faith
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Nobody is equal to Jesus, but we are told in the scriptures to walk as He walked.
Apostle Paul even tells us to imitate how he walks as he imitates how Christ walked, meaning that Paul did not continue to walk a disobedient everyday committing sin lifestyle.
For Paul clearly said in Romans 8 that those of us who walk by the Spirit and not by the flesh there is not condemnation, those who walk by the flesh/sinful lifestyle are still bound under the law.
Apostle Paul also expounds on what Lord Jesus said about handling a sinful brother/sister in the faith, and shows that if the steps have been taken to point it out to them and they still refuse to turn from it then we are to cast them out and not even eat with them.
Apostle Paul even tells us to imitate how he walks as he imitates how Christ walked, meaning that Paul did not continue to walk a disobedient everyday committing sin lifestyle.
For Paul clearly said in Romans 8 that those of us who walk by the Spirit and not by the flesh there is not condemnation, those who walk by the flesh/sinful lifestyle are still bound under the law.
Apostle Paul also expounds on what Lord Jesus said about handling a sinful brother/sister in the faith, and shows that if the steps have been taken to point it out to them and they still refuse to turn from it then we are to cast them out and not even eat with them.
K
I am not defending Jeff at all, as what I am doing is defending scripture and what it says about how our walk in the faith does matter when it comes to salvation.
I do not defend people who talk nasty or demean others, nor do I defend those who demean the person in return, as that would be repaying evil for evil.
The only thing I was speaking on and defending was the fact I seen and have seen some say obedience, our walk, our actions, and even how we speak does not matter when it comes to salvation.
The bible completely refutes that false teaching as is shows more then 100 scriptures alone on obedience, and Apostle Paul constantly shows how one can and can not walk, talk, and act in the faith.
Ken, l already had this convo today.
You really missed a good dialogue.
Throw around all that scripture you want.
Bend it to fit your view. Be my guest.
Im talking about your boy, his nasty 'ttude, and the awful things he says to people.
I dont need you all coming at me as if lm not a peaceful guy 99% of my time here.
Im calling him out, and why he feels the need to be arrogant all of the time. Nonstop.
A real man would apologize.
He has never ONCE denied he says awful things to women here.
Why? Because he knows.
What a man. What a man "of God"
Good going on defending him.
You really missed a good dialogue.
Throw around all that scripture you want.
Bend it to fit your view. Be my guest.
Im talking about your boy, his nasty 'ttude, and the awful things he says to people.
I dont need you all coming at me as if lm not a peaceful guy 99% of my time here.
Im calling him out, and why he feels the need to be arrogant all of the time. Nonstop.
A real man would apologize.
He has never ONCE denied he says awful things to women here.
Why? Because he knows.
What a man. What a man "of God"
Good going on defending him.
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Dear Kenneth:
Grace, peace, and love be unto you this fine evening.
I hope all is going well for you.
Anyways, to get down to business:
Well, I do not believe I do any kind of righteousness on my own behalf alone. I believe in God's righteousness working in my life. So if such is the case: Is there such a thing as having too much of God's righteousness or goodness in a person's life? Yes, I am sure that is not what you are saying, though. But I do look at the Word of God and plainly believe it just as you believe you do. I cannot unlearn what I believe I have been taught by the Spirit; And I do not believe I have gone beyond what the Word of God actually says (Which would be a problem if one is being overly righteous from a man made kind of way). You would have to show me exactly where I stated a belief that is not in line with God's Word (for that to be true). For I do not believe in Works Salvationism. I do not believe the Law of Moses is in effect anymore. I believe God works in me. I believe the New Covenant Commands are what we are supposed to uphold (by Christ working in us). I believe the new birth, love, and the Lord is what leads us into paths of righteousness for his name's sake. For I am not seeking my own glory. No, no. Most certainly not. I am nothing. Christ is everything. I am just a clay jar fitted for the master's use.
1 John 1:9 is one my all time favorite verses. It was a verse that leaped out my Bible when I first started to read it. It's a promise that anyone can bank on. It's so true. It's so simple. It makes sense. It's beautiful. It is at it's heart... love. For simply our admittance to our shame or sin, we can be forgiven of our sin and cleansed of any and all unrighteousness. This is obviously not in any way like the priest confessional like in the Catholic church. No, no. Most certainly not. This is taking one's sins to the only mediator between God the Father and man. This is a type of confession where somebody confesses with a Godly sorrow and not a worldy sorrow.
As for the rest of the 1st epistle of John: It is simply chocked full of great nuggets of truth that will knock someone side ways if they are simply willing to listen and hear what it says.
Exactly! I could not agree more.
I pray so much that folks here who cannot see that, to one day be awaken to such truth (To the glory of the Lord).
Anyways, please be well in the Lord and stay strong in Him and His Word always.
With loving kindness to you in Christ,
Sincerely,
~ Jason.
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Grace, peace, and love be unto you this fine evening.
I hope all is going well for you.
Anyways, to get down to business:
Well, I do not believe I do any kind of righteousness on my own behalf alone. I believe in God's righteousness working in my life. So if such is the case: Is there such a thing as having too much of God's righteousness or goodness in a person's life? Yes, I am sure that is not what you are saying, though. But I do look at the Word of God and plainly believe it just as you believe you do. I cannot unlearn what I believe I have been taught by the Spirit; And I do not believe I have gone beyond what the Word of God actually says (Which would be a problem if one is being overly righteous from a man made kind of way). You would have to show me exactly where I stated a belief that is not in line with God's Word (for that to be true). For I do not believe in Works Salvationism. I do not believe the Law of Moses is in effect anymore. I believe God works in me. I believe the New Covenant Commands are what we are supposed to uphold (by Christ working in us). I believe the new birth, love, and the Lord is what leads us into paths of righteousness for his name's sake. For I am not seeking my own glory. No, no. Most certainly not. I am nothing. Christ is everything. I am just a clay jar fitted for the master's use.
1 John 1:9 is one my all time favorite verses. It was a verse that leaped out my Bible when I first started to read it. It's a promise that anyone can bank on. It's so true. It's so simple. It makes sense. It's beautiful. It is at it's heart... love. For simply our admittance to our shame or sin, we can be forgiven of our sin and cleansed of any and all unrighteousness. This is obviously not in any way like the priest confessional like in the Catholic church. No, no. Most certainly not. This is taking one's sins to the only mediator between God the Father and man. This is a type of confession where somebody confesses with a Godly sorrow and not a worldy sorrow.
As for the rest of the 1st epistle of John: It is simply chocked full of great nuggets of truth that will knock someone side ways if they are simply willing to listen and hear what it says.
Exactly! I could not agree more.
I pray so much that folks here who cannot see that, to one day be awaken to such truth (To the glory of the Lord).
Anyways, please be well in the Lord and stay strong in Him and His Word always.
With loving kindness to you in Christ,
Sincerely,
~ Jason.
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